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Aug 30, 2011, 12:46 PM
#21
Re: "The Gold House Trilogy" Victorio Peak Book# 1
I for one look forward to the read...wouldnt have been aware of the book if not for this forum...Thank's, Steve
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Aug 30, 2011 12:46 PM
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Sep 09, 2011, 02:41 PM
#22
Re: "The Gold House Trilogy" Victorio Peak Book# 1
Looks like another delay.
The "Countdown Clock" hit 00-00-00, but no book is offered.
Better than most I understand the difficulties of book production. The gestation period of this one, however, seems extensive.
Good luck to all,
~The Old Bookaroo
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Sep 13, 2011, 06:51 PM
#23
Re: "The Gold House Trilogy" Victorio Peak Book# 1
Bookaroo,
I think that since only one copy of the ebook was downloaded, and Steve Floto talked about downloading it, and shortly after, he mentions that it was available via Bit Torrent Sites, we can only surmise that he was the one that uploaded the book. Either he or someone he gave it to. I count out anyone from the publisher because they have all three books on .pdf file, and a theft from them would have released all the books.
I personally believe that releasing it as an ebook is a big mistake (at least until a good bit of time has passed after the introduction of the hardcover).
I can only assume that Jack is trying to find a way to secure the next two books.
It is very sad that there are thieves and dirtbags with so little respect for years of research and work put in by others that they stoop to garbage like this.
Mike
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Sep 13, 2011, 09:21 PM
#24
Re: "The Gold House Trilogy" Victorio Peak Book# 1
 Originally Posted by gollum
.....I personally believe that releasing it as an ebook is a big mistake (at least until a good bit of time has passed after the introduction of the hardcover).
I can only assume that Jack is trying to find a way to secure the next two books......
'Secure' Books 2 and 3? I'm not sure what you mean by 'secure'. Are you speculating that their publication might not happen?
Anyway, since the release of Book 1 hard copy is still presumably somewhere in the foggy future, how about revealing your in-depth review of it, as you indicated earlier? We need to re-bolster our interest in this thing.
Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.
Marx
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Sep 13, 2011, 09:42 PM
#25
Re: "The Gold House Trilogy" Victorio Peak Book# 1
 Originally Posted by Springfield
 Originally Posted by gollum
.....I personally believe that releasing it as an ebook is a big mistake (at least until a good bit of time has passed after the introduction of the hardcover).
I can only assume that Jack is trying to find a way to secure the next two books......
'Secure' Books 2 and 3? I'm not sure what you mean by 'secure'. Are you speculating that their publication might not happen?
Anyway, since the release of Book 1 hard copy is still presumably somewhere in the foggy future, how about revealing your in-depth review of it, as you indicated earlier? We need to re-bolster our interest in this thing.
What I meant was trying to find a way to secure the ebook. Not likely though, since there are several programs that can overcome locked .pdf files. I still think the easiest way would have been to release the ebooks at a later date, so that by the time they come out, their internet spread could not really affect book sales. The genie is already out of the bottle for book 1 though.
The in-depth is difficult because I have been spending so much time at the job that pays the bills every month (not the one that occasionally pays off). I got much of it done today, then my LCD Monitor starting kicking off every few minutes. Time to replace. I may be able to finish it tonight or tomorrow morning with my laptop.
The in-depth review does not give out any REAL spoilers though. It just hits on the major things the first book covers as a lead in to book two. I will say this: Book1 covers the timeline from the early 1920s until the late 1950s. Book2 starts where book1 left off, and goes into all the gory detail about everything to do with the thefts from the Peak and those involved.
Did I say that I hate working from a laptop? HAHAHA
Mike
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Sep 14, 2011, 09:08 AM
#26
Re: "The Gold House Trilogy" Victorio Peak Book# 1
Countdown clock back to 25 days for the hardcover. eBook is offered on Lulu - Lulu says it is not yet available.
I recommend the Acer monitors. I've been very happy with mine, and you don't have to purchase a huge one.
Good luck to all,
~The Old Bookaroo
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Sep 15, 2011, 01:29 AM
#27
 Cruces Nomad
Re: "The Gold House Trilogy" Victorio Peak Book# 1
Thanks Guys. Very good info. I am looking forward to the debate that will follow.
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Sep 18, 2011, 05:55 PM
#28
Re: "The Gold House Trilogy" Victorio Peak Book# 1
Go with the hard back. Not so easy to get lost as an e copy.
As for the map on the back of the book cover.
I would have wrote it off, except doing research on the original Holden place in 1929, ( Willie D stories): I come across a island close to there. The old surveys of the area show it.
Hmm just maybe a different reason for a sextant. Interesting.
Them folks playing around granite peak may be right.
New toys take time to learn to use: New forums takes time to learn to use! Its why people prefer their old ones.
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Sep 19, 2011, 04:35 PM
#29
Re: "The Gold House Trilogy" Victorio Peak Book# 1
 Originally Posted by lostcauses
Go with the hard back. Not so easy to get lost as an e copy.
As for the map on the back of the book cover.
I would have wrote it off, except doing research on the original Holden place in 1929, ( Willie D stories): I come across a island close to there. The old surveys of the area show it.
Hmm just maybe a different reason for a sextant. Interesting.
Them folks playing around granite peak may be right.
I wish I could read more on the friendship and conversations between Willie D and Doc.
"Oh yeah ? Well my cave had 100 tons of gold, how much did yours have?"
The best possible Douthit reply: "you drunk idjut we were both claiming the same cave before you tried to con people to transport gold from other places to bury in the basin"
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Sep 19, 2011, 06:47 PM
#30
Re: "The Gold House Trilogy" Victorio Peak Book# 1
I am to the point I believe there may have been two W. D. s.
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Sep 19, 2011, 06:50 PM
#31
Re: "The Gold House Trilogy" Victorio Peak Book# 1
I did check and the damn E book is out there in freebei land. Damn what a way to screw all this up. They should have waited for the e book. I hope the publisher and writer learn from this. Who ever did it is a jerk.
New toys take time to learn to use: New forums takes time to learn to use! Its why people prefer their old ones.
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Sep 19, 2011, 08:53 PM
#32
Re: "The Gold House Trilogy" Victorio Peak Book# 1
 Originally Posted by lostcauses
I am to the point I believe there may have been two W. D. s.
What...one real and one fraud?
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Sep 21, 2011, 10:38 AM
#33
Re: "The Gold House Trilogy" Victorio Peak Book# 1
 Originally Posted by jackrook
 Originally Posted by lostcauses
I am to the point I believe there may have been two W. D. s.
What...one real and one fraud?
That is one possibility. Might both have been related also..
New toys take time to learn to use: New forums takes time to learn to use! Its why people prefer their old ones.
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Sep 21, 2011, 01:06 PM
#34
 Cruces Nomad
Re: "The Gold House Trilogy" Victorio Peak Book# 1
Granite Peak, Im not familiar with the names of the local area. How would I find that on a map. I wish to see if its one of the areas I scoped out. Thanks.
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Sep 21, 2011, 04:12 PM
#35
Re: "The Gold House Trilogy" Victorio Peak Book# 1
 Originally Posted by Casca
Granite Peak, Im not familiar with the names of the local area. How would I find that on a map. I wish to see if its one of the areas I scoped out. Thanks.
Township 15 south, range 4west section 4 on the Caballo Quadrangle NM map.
Same area has the Drolte hole and Tresoro Del Alma.
There is an arch locally called window rock in the area at T15S, R4W, Sec 34. Map needed for this one is Apache Gap Quadrangle.
Could be the marking with two lines through it. It is a local land mark.
lost of speculation on all the multiple maps that have existed through the years.
Yet the area around Granite peak is with in walking distance from were the original WD starting point was supposedly.
A great many people believe the area to be were the gold still is, as well as were some of it was removed by both Doc, and WD. rumors of others through the years having removed gold from this area abound.
Some of this area is private owned.
New toys take time to learn to use: New forums takes time to learn to use! Its why people prefer their old ones.
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Oct 09, 2011, 01:04 AM
#36
Re: "The Gold House Trilogy" Victorio Peak Book# 1
Alright
this is Treasure Minder
Roger Snow as some of you know me by
On the Book
funny, the Author contacted me, asking if i had a copy of the JFK presidential executive order from 1962
impounding the Gold from the peak.
HA!
yeah right, like i'd give that copy to someone for their book.
as for the downloading and booting up a so called Pirated pdf file of the book on free sites,,
Know what the Author said when i asked him why he wanted all my info and other peoples info
for a subject that is dead,, ( subject being the theft of the treasure all over the southwest not just the peak)
he stated: I want to present the truth to the world of what really went down at the peak.
Ok, I put the TRUTH about my torture for a treasure i found about 60 miles south of the peak
I put it in this forum and others
i did so for FREE
I did not write a book on my knowledge and experience
i did NOT take info from others and SELL it in a Book.
I gave it out for free in forums
some of it has been collected and will be on a website and read for FREE
Now, as for pirate and plagiarizing
Jack the author is selling other people experiences
he gathered the info freely given him and is attyempting to SELL it
while claiming that his motivation for writting the book was to get the truth out to the world
Well Jack
The truth shall set you free is the addage
right?
FREE TRUTH will set you a little FREE'er
make sense?
well, if the altruistic motivation to wake the world up to the TRUTH were real buddy
no better price then FREE
and now,,, it is free, on a bit torrent and perhaps even on some bootleg made in russia CD's
who knows for sure.
Mr. Clarence wished for me to call him
so i did
you guys who have contact with him can ask him how i treated him on the phone
KARMA is a KICK
and when in the throes of selling TRUTH for a BUCK
you can expect your so called truth to be set FREE on a free site.
Which is the real bad guy folks
the man who takes other peoples stories and experiences and sells them for a buck
or the guy that takes them from that sellers website and gives what was given for free
away for free just as the author got it for free.
Jack, you want some of my info for you to sell?
want to pay me for the info?
no ?
ok, then cry all you wish buddy
however, expect no sympathy from me when someone bootlegs your truth and gives it away for free.
heh heh 
Funny thing life
you can choose to buy and sell it like you are a Pimp
you can sell yourself to the highest bidder
whatever you feel LIFE is for and about
what it is ,, is to be lived, NOT SPENT
i expect no one to buy my life exsperience
yet,,,
Jack sought to sell it, in order to get the TRUTH out to the World
Somehow, sometimes, i just have to question some crap
and usually
when i question
and ponder
i find the real Truth of a persons motivations
Jack Clarence ( which is NOT his real name as he introduced himself over the phone )
Suffers the common ground of the Human species
that being,, he does human things in a Human way,,,
which by motivation
means there is self before others in the motivation
Not really sorry about my treatment of you on the Phone mister jack
i pointed out my dads murder
my torture
and the murder of many others over us finding treasure
and YOU, ignored my statement that i did not wish to relive the past and asked me for more info
Geese Bud, are you insulted by YOUR own TRUTH?
if so
then perhaps you changing your truth to a REAL truth , you'll find your truth a little less offensive
Good nite folks
and the unknown symol on the wall of the cave at Victorio Peak is an ancient Phoenician Symbol
so now it can be said to be KNOWN instead of Unknown
Roger A. Snow
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Oct 09, 2011, 09:08 AM
#37
Re: "The Gold House Trilogy" Victorio Peak Book# 1
 Originally Posted by treasminder2
Alright
this is Treasure Minder
Roger Snow as some of you know me by....
What Rog says is true - he will willingly take you by the hand and lead you to whatever you want to see. And, guess what? When you get there, there is something to see. Thanks Rog.
Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.
Marx
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Oct 09, 2011, 05:40 PM
#38
Re: "The Gold House Trilogy" Victorio Peak Book# 1
Another promised "Release Date" appears to have come and gone. I went to Lulu via the link and it states the book is not yet available.
To be continued. I guess...
Good luck to all,
~The Old Bookaroo
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Oct 10, 2011, 08:50 AM
#39
Re: "The Gold House Trilogy" Victorio Peak Book# 1
 Originally Posted by Old Bookaroo
Another promised "Release Date" appears to have come and gone. I went to Lulu via the link and it states the book is not yet available.
To be continued. I guess...
Good luck to all,
~The Old Bookaroo
This is turning from 'Hurry, hurry' to 'Ho hum'. Last minute editing, or 'publication delays'? I wonder about the 'pre-release reviews' too. Say, Mike - had time yet for yours?
Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.
Marx
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Oct 13, 2011, 08:25 AM
#40
Re: "The Gold House Trilogy" Victorio Peak Book# 1
Lulu provides print-on-demand books, and this title is available as an eBook.
Why, then, can't Lulu print one?
I'll confess - I don't understand.
Good luck to all,
~The Old Bookaroo
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