13th-14th Century GOLD Stirrup Ring Updated. (Inquest Update.)..Outcome.

[Silver Searcher]

Two weeks into a new season and I just might have found my best ever find the day started off with a phone call from my detecting partner Michael, he could not make it due to a family illness we were due to go to our usual haunt in North Yorkshire

Any way I decided to go to a farm that is just 14 miles from were I live and were I have had some nice hammered, most of the land was still under crop but a small section of barley and rape seed stubble were detectable

After three hours of scrap lead the odd button and shot gun catridges I moved to a ridge just above the flood plain of the river the area was very quiet , on my second run down I received a sweet two way signal in the cordless phones looking down I immediately recognized what had gave the signal, the colour GOLD with a small blackish stone right in the middle staring straight back at me

It was a Medieval GOLD Stirrup Ring from about the 13th-14th Century in perfect condition. I think the stone might be a small blue or black Saphire.

The Gold wedding band I found last week turned out to be the farmers were we were detecting he had lost it just two weeks after he had been married back in 1991 I am returning the ring to him tommorrow. TK.

 

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[DrJoePrime]

Re: 13th-14th Century GOLD Stirrup Ring Updated. (Inquest Update.)

Hi,

I remember that ring and your story from last year but can't find my response to it.

That ring shook me up and it's an ASTOUNDING Find!

It sucks (is that used in the U.K.?) that you can't hold it in your hands anymore. BUT really and truly ... isn't it YOUR ring and being held for the "common" good as a U.K. Treasure? It seems ownership is yours (and the farmer's).

So there's no way to have special privileges and "visit" your ring and hold it?

I would like more information on how "treasure" is defined and procedures etc. if you don't mind. I feel something similar is very sorely needed here in the States....or is it?

Best Regards from California, USA
Joe

 

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[Silver Searcher]

Re: 13th-14th Century GOLD Stirrup Ring Updated. (Inquest Update.)

Hi,

I remember that ring and your story from last year but can't find my response to it.

That ring shook me up and it's an ASTOUNDING Find!

It sucks (is that used in the U.K.?) that you can't hold it in your hands anymore. BUT really and truly ... isn't it YOUR ring and being held for the "common" good as a U.K. Treasure? It seems ownership is yours (and the farmer's).

So there's no way to have special privileges and "visit" your ring and hold it?

I would like more information on how "treasure" is defined and procedures etc. if you don't mind. I feel something similar is very sorely needed here in the States....or is it?

Best Regards from California, USA
Joe

Hi Joe..

I'm afraid that's right the chances of me holding it again are slim to none it's officially been declared Treasure Trove, and also as I stated in the update the Bowes Museum has expressed there interest in acquiring it

It now goes back to the British Museum were they will be a valuation, from what I gather a offer will be made, this will be put to me. If I feel the offer is OK, I will recieve a reward to the value of the ring, this is then split 50/50 with the land owner.

SS

 

[allen]

Re: 13th-14th Century GOLD Stirrup Ring Updated. (Inquest Update.)

should be finders keepers..

 

[just-dig]

Re: 13th-14th Century GOLD Stirrup Ring Updated. (Inquest Update.)

So what if you decide the offer is not OK? I'm curious about this and have been talking with a friend about this treasure trove thing. Are there detectorist out there that keep things and never declare them? I know the consequences and would think that most follow the rules, but are there people that just turn a nose up to it and go on?

Thanks, Mark

 

[Tank69]

Re: 13th-14th Century GOLD Stirrup Ring Updated. (Inquest Update.)

Silver I know you hate the short replies but what else can I say ......omg man that is beautiful and an awsome find wtg

 

[Tnmountains]

Re: 13th-14th Century GOLD Stirrup Ring Updated. (Inquest Update.)

I missed this one !!!! Great insitu photograph. All those years just waiting to be found. Congratulations. Good story and deed on the farmers ring. Way to go man you do us all proud
HH
TnMtns

 

[katzky]

Re: 13th-14th Century GOLD Stirrup Ring Updated. (Inquest Update.)

I don't know.... Its not stamped with the gold purity so its probably just gold filled....

JK of course.

Real treasure..... I am just trying to imagine what the farmers wife went through back in the 13th century when she lost the ring. She proably said something like, "Ohhh.. Don't you worry. It'll show up."

 

[Baggins]

Re: 13th-14th Century GOLD Stirrup Ring Updated. (Inquest Update.)

That is one good looking ring!
Congrats!
Baggins

 

[Silver Searcher]

Re: 13th-14th Century GOLD Stirrup Ring Updated. (Inquest Update.)

So what if you decide the offer is not OK? I'm curious about this and have been talking with a friend about this treasure trove thing. Are there detectorist out there that keep things and never declare them? I know the consequences and would think that most follow the rules, but are there people that just turn a nose up to it and go on?

Thanks, Mark

Hi Mark...

If I feel that the valuation is not up to scrach :P then I can appeal against the dissision, but this all takes time, and I would have to provide separate appraisal's from collectors of such pieces and yes they are detectorists who don't declare treasure

SS

 

[Silver Searcher]

Re: 13th-14th Century GOLD Stirrup Ring Updated. (Inquest Update.)

Silver I know you hate the short replies but what else can I say ......omg man that is beautiful and an awsome find wtg

Thanks for the reply Tank not much to say, that already hasn't been said

SS

 

[Silver Searcher]

Re: 13th-14th Century GOLD Stirrup Ring Updated. (Inquest Update.)



Well without boring you all to death about my Best find ever, well one of them, I would like to tell you about recent events.
Th ring was declared Treasure as you all know, and was retained. The valuation committee come back with a value of £2000 pounds which myself and the landowner excepted, The Bowes Museum wished to acquire it, and had four months to raise the money.
I received a letter from the British Museum on Friday, 29/05/2010 saying that the Museum in question were no longer in a position to buy the ring, and subject to a objection by the land owner, the ring will be returned to me.
I can't really say wether I am pleased or disappointed, I get to hold it again, but the time it's taken to get to this point(nearly 2 years) has left a bitter taste in my mouth

SS

 

[RPG]

Re: 13th-14th Century GOLD Stirrup Ring Updated. (Inquest Update.)

Well without boring you all to death about my Best find ever, well one of them, I would like to tell you about recent events.
Th ring was declared Treasure as you all know, and was retained. The valuation committee come back with a value of £2000 pounds which myself and the landowner excepted, The Bowes Museum wished to acquire it, and had four months to raise the money.
I received a letter from the British Museum on Friday, 29/05/2010 saying that the Museum in question were no longer in a position to buy the ring, and subject to a objection by the land owner, the ring will be returned to me.
I can't really say wether I am pleased or disappointed, I get to hold it again, but the time it's taken to get to this point(nearly 2 years) has left a bitter taste in my mouth

SS

I can understand the bitter taste, but I'd much rather have the ring than a few thousand dollars. That kind of money doesn't go very far nowadays.

And, the value of the ring will increase with time.

 

[hammered]

Re: 13th-14th Century GOLD Stirrup Ring Updated. (Inquest Update.)

Well without boring you all to death about my Best find ever, well one of them, I would like to tell you about recent events.
Th ring was declared Treasure as you all know, and was retained. The valuation committee come back with a value of £2000 pounds which myself and the landowner excepted, The Bowes Museum wished to acquire it, and had four months to raise the money.
I received a letter from the British Museum on Friday, 29/05/2010 saying that the Museum in question were no longer in a position to buy the ring, and subject to a objection by the land owner, the ring will be returned to me.
I can't really say wether I am pleased or disappointed, I get to hold it again, but the time it's taken to get to this point(nearly 2 years) has left a bitter taste in my mouth

SS

The way I see it is , you are a winner. Ok, it took way to long to be resolved, we all agree there must be a quicker turn around. But now you get to fondle your ring when ever you want , ( don't read that the wrong way). If I understand things correctly, you will have the ring plus a nice official letter to go with it therefore still a nice little bonus. By the way this is one of the best find I have seen on here.

hammered

 

[Silver Searcher]

Re: 13th-14th Century GOLD Stirrup Ring Updated. (Inquest Update.)

Well without boring you all to death about my Best find ever, well one of them, I would like to tell you about recent events.
Th ring was declared Treasure as you all know, and was retained. The valuation committee come back with a value of £2000 pounds which myself and the landowner excepted, The Bowes Museum wished to acquire it, and had four months to raise the money.
I received a letter from the British Museum on Friday, 29/05/2010 saying that the Museum in question were no longer in a position to buy the ring, and subject to a objection by the land owner, the ring will be returned to me.
I can't really say wether I am pleased or disappointed, I get to hold it again, but the time it's taken to get to this point(nearly 2 years) has left a bitter taste in my mouth

SS

The way I see it is , you are a winner. Ok, it took way to long to be resolved, we all agree there must be a quicker turn around. But now you get to fondle your ring when ever you want , ( don't read that the wrong way). If I understand things correctly, you will have the ring plus a nice official letter to go with it therefore still a nice little bonus. By the way this is one of the best find I have seen on here.

hammered

Yes there are two ways to look at this Ian, but remember the ring part belongs to Michael, my detecting partner, even though he wasn't there when I found it

SS

 

[HISPAN]

Re: 13th-14th Century GOLD Stirrup Ring Updated. (Inquest Update.)

Well without boring you all to death about my Best find ever, well one of them, I would like to tell you about recent events.
Th ring was declared Treasure as you all know, and was retained. The valuation committee come back with a value of £2000 pounds which myself and the landowner excepted, The Bowes Museum wished to acquire it, and had four months to raise the money.
I received a letter from the British Museum on Friday, 29/05/2010 saying that the Museum in question were no longer in a position to buy the ring, and subject to a objection by the land owner, the ring will be returned to me.
I can't really say wether I am pleased or disappointed, I get to hold it again, but the time it's taken to get to this point(nearly 2 years) has left a bitter taste in my mouth

SS

The way I see it is , you are a winner. Ok, it took way to long to be resolved, we all agree there must be a quicker turn around. But now you get to fondle your ring when ever you want , ( don't read that the wrong way). If I understand things correctly, you will have the ring plus a nice official letter to go with it therefore still a nice little bonus. By the way this is one of the best find I have seen on here.

hammered

Yes there are two ways to look at this Ian, but remember the ring part belongs to Michael, my detecting partner, even though he wasn't there when I found it

SS

I would pay over 6000 Euros for this ring if tubiera ..... but never sell a relic of mine (they grab a lot of love),
always the recognition of Treasure!

 

[detectahead]

Re: 13th-14th Century GOLD Stirrup Ring

That is beautiful. The stone has a great deal of character.

The shot of it just a-layin' there in that field is tops.

I agree! That's what got my attention more than anything was the pic you took, AMAZING! Major congrats!

 

[Cal_Cobra]

Re: 13th-14th Century GOLD Stirrup Ring Updated. (Inquest Update.)

Well without boring you all to death about my Best find ever, well one of them, I would like to tell you about recent events.
Th ring was declared Treasure as you all know, and was retained. The valuation committee come back with a value of £2000 pounds which myself and the landowner excepted, The Bowes Museum wished to acquire it, and had four months to raise the money.
I received a letter from the British Museum on Friday, 29/05/2010 saying that the Museum in question were no longer in a position to buy the ring, and subject to a objection by the land owner, the ring will be returned to me.
I can't really say wether I am pleased or disappointed, I get to hold it again, but the time it's taken to get to this point(nearly 2 years) has left a bitter taste in my mouth

SS

First congrats on finding that incredible ring

I can understand your feelings on this situation. Two years is quite ridiculous, they should streamline that process, and there should be a time limit from date of turning it in, to buying it. If they can't do it in say six months, then all bets are off and the ring is returned to the finder. Of course, if you wanted to sell it on your own, I assume you're welcome to.

Sorry the government mucked up your experience, I can only imagine how our government would muck it up if we had a similar treasure law

HH,
Brian

 

[DrJoePrime]

Thank you for the update.

Your photo of the ring as you found it is my all time favorite "find" photo. It quickens my heart and stands as an inspiration.

HH Joe

PS: NOTHING boring about your story!

 

[Silver Searcher]

Re: 13th-14th Century GOLD Stirrup Ring Updated. (Inquest Update.)

Well without boring you all to death about my Best find ever, well one of them, I would like to tell you about recent events.
Th ring was declared Treasure as you all know, and was retained. The valuation committee come back with a value of £2000 pounds which myself and the landowner excepted, The Bowes Museum wished to acquire it, and had four months to raise the money.
I received a letter from the British Museum on Friday, 29/05/2010 saying that the Museum in question were no longer in a position to buy the ring, and subject to a objection by the land owner, the ring will be returned to me.
I can't really say wether I am pleased or disappointed, I get to hold it again, but the time it's taken to get to this point(nearly 2 years) has left a bitter taste in my mouth

SS

The way I see it is , you are a winner. Ok, it took way to long to be resolved, we all agree there must be a quicker turn around. But now you get to fondle your ring when ever you want , ( don't read that the wrong way). If I understand things correctly, you will have the ring plus a nice official letter to go with it therefore still a nice little bonus. By the way this is one of the best find I have seen on here.

hammered

Yes there are two ways to look at this Ian, but remember the ring part belongs to Michael, my detecting partner, even though he wasn't there when I found it

SS

I would pay over 6000 Euros for this ring if tubiera ..... but never sell a relic of mine (they grab a lot of love),
always the recognition of Treasure!

I did have a value for it around that price from a french company.

SS

 

[Silver Searcher]

Thank you for the update.

Your photo of the ring as you found it is my all time favorite "find" photo. It quickens my heart and stands as an inspiration.

HH Joe

PS: NOTHING boring about your story!

Thanks Joe

SS