3 Connecticut Coppers, 2 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagle

Don in SJ

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3 Connecticut Coppers, 2 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagle

Last couple hunts have been an experience for me with a back problem making detecting a very tasking hobby, but I prevailed thru the weekend at least and got rewarded for my efforts with a great hunt on Saturday.

First, last week I got out for a short hunt and checked out the 1793 Cent site again, with just a couple more buttons being found, so as I was hiking back to the truck I spotted a dumpy area that seemed like it was a old road rather than a more modern logging road. I checked it out real quick and got rewarded with a stray dropped KGIII Halfpenny, not in the best of shape, but it is a keeper. :icon_thumright:
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On Thursday this week I went back to that area to make sure it was or was not a homestead there, (there was not) so one the way back I stopped at one of my sites that was very giving last year and it gave up another nice button and a 1825 Large Cent, now the 1825 was appreciated more than usual by me since it filled a hole, I never found that year for some reason.
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So that brings us to yesterday, I was looking forward to getting a hunt in with my son, only our second hunt together this year and I took my pain pills and was determined to get at least one more hunt in for the month or so. With the back aching, I said I did not want to do a lot of walking so we did have a site that my son found back in December that he did great at on his first hunt, think it was 4 coins or so and we did hit it together for our first hunt of the year in late January before the snows came. So, we went there, since the chances of finding a Colonial Copper were great there, becuase we both found a KGIII there previously.

As soon as we reached the area, I got a hunk of metal similar to a trigger guard, but not sure really what it is, so maybe someone can chime in.
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Shortly thereafter, I got a nice coin signal, called my son over, he listened to the signal before I dug and of course snapped a photo of dear ole dad and again of the recovery.
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Yes, it was a copper, and a nice one two, sure looked liked a colonial, even dirty (It was)
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Well, right after that recovery and only two feet away I got a funky reading and out pops a fatty copper, was not sure if a fat IH or a Flying Eagle cent, but after cleaning, Flying Eagle won out! :icon_thumright:
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My son said I was finding stuff a bit uphill from the main site but it was very close to where he found a fattie IH on his first trip there in December. No sooner than he got back to where he was swinging I got another coin reading.
Another copper which was now #3, shortly thereafter that I got my fourth copper and now my son was getting anxious and of course I wanted him badly to find the next coin, but no, about a half hour of brush beating later, I got copper number 5 for the day.
So here are my 4 Large Coppers found yesterday
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We were getting close to quiting and thank goodness I finally heard the yell I was waiting for from my son, "COIN" so I rushed over to where he was detecting and watched him recover his one and only copper for the day, but it was a bonus coin, a fat copper with a lettered edge! After cleaning it was a Liberty Cap and the date was nowhere easily seen but I attributed the variety and it is a 1794 Sheldon 59 , so my son was happy with his "consolation copper" ( I would have been also) We have had many hunts like this over the years where one makes a killing and the other is snakebit, so we were glad that at least both of us got some coins today.
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I forgot to mention, right after I found the 3rd copper, I spotted the beautiful half a antler rack of a deer that not to long ago shedded the antler, so I ended up carrying that around for about two hours, too big to fit into the storage pockets on my fishing vest. :D
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Also, something that has never happened on an old site like that, neither of us got a button today, my son did get some broken pewter spoon parts but the relics were not be found that day.

Overall a great week for me hunting wise and a rotten one back wise, but I will get out again hopefully sooner than later.

Don
 

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Re: 3 Connecticut Coppers, 2 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagle

Congratulations on The Batty Don. 2 of those Conn's are awesome! Hogge :notworthy:
 

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Re: 3 Connecticut Coppers, 2 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagl

Jeez, you guys do it right down there.
Amazing haul. Not only lots of copper, but lots of high-quality copper to boot!
 

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Re: 3 Connecticut Coppers, 2 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagle

real nice coins don! that sure looks like a trigger guard to me :dontknow:
an awesome hunt.my backs been bothering me too.lower back and degenerative discs ugggh
 

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Re: 3 Connecticut Coppers, 2 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagle

Holy cow Don. Nice day for sure!

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WoW, some really great finds
 

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Re: 3 Connecticut Coppers, 2 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagl

Iron Patch said:
Don in SJ said:
Iron Patch said:
Don in SJ said:
I posted the colonial coppers on the C4 forum and to my surprise one of the KGIII's I found is a Batty 3826B variety, no date purposely not applied on non clipped example but 1784/5 is the time frame. This is my second one, when i found that one two years ago, only 3 were known to exist, now the number is up to 7 with this discovery and I own 2 of the 7. :)


That's what I thought when you posted it, but since you didn't say anything, I didn't! ;D So what is the deal on both being clipped? Isn't that sort of odd? Do you know if the others are also?

I asked that same question to Byron W who did the study and the CNL article on them and the 1784 Machins Mills coppers. I don't remember the others being clipped, but only knew of three others besides my first one till today. I probably had photos of one or two of them but may have lost them when my old computer crashed. I will ask Byron, but fairly certain they were not all clipped since he mentioned the others were not dated, so it is interesting that the two I found both are clipped, it just might mean something on their history.......

Also, I never looked at the KGIIIs closely at all, took me forever to attribute the varieties of the three Conn coppers, not an easy thing to do, David P verified my variety IDs were correct so glad all the time I took today to ID them paid off. Only once did I give the clipped planchet KGIII a thought about it being a Batty 3826B but never pursued looking at it closely.

Seeing it was clipped and not a typical George bust instantly made me think of your other one.

I'd say clipping them was a way to keep them in circulation because a 1780s date might as well say I'm counterfeit.

Here is a photo of yesterday's coin combined with the one I found about three years ago. For those who do not know, D. T. Batty was a prolific cataloguer of English and Colonial copper coinage. Beginning in 1868 and continuing until his death in 1896.
 

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Re: 3 Connecticut Coppers, 2 KGIII Halfpence, 1794 &1825 Large Cent, Flying Eagle

Congrats on some great hunts ,Don. The 1794 your son found is a nice find. It is also cool that you have 2 of the 7 known of the copper way to go!!!!!! :icon_thumleft:

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WOW Don, that is amazing and you deserve it too. It has to be tough going out there with your back as jacked up as it is. Congratulations!!!!

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That is a great bunch of coins there... :icon_thumleft:
 

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Fantastic digs!!! Don't worry about the buttons, I made up for it in my finds today!
 

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Don ...you make it look easy.
Congrats on your finds, you done good. :thumbsup:

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All I can is say WOW Don... your sure pulling up some good american coppers :icon_thumright:
 

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great hunt don were did you get the book? willy
 

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You guys both had a well-rounded Colonial hunt. Anytime you get 3 Connecticut coppers in one day, you know that you are sweeping historic dirt. Great job, Don, on creating another successful detecting season.

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dfx willy said:
great hunt don were did you get the book? willy

I wish I had the book, I don't, a friend emailed me a few years back a page or two concerning I believe my Batty copper, but anyway, no I do not have it but sure would be a nice additon to my reference book section.
For anyone strongly interested in Colonials, I suggest at minimum joining the C4 forums on Yahoo, or join C4 (Colonial Coin Collectors Club) to help increase your knowledge by listening to the real experts in the field converse, and on occasion join in as long as you know what you are talking about. :D

Several on this forum have heeded that advice, it is a open door to more knowledge about our Colonials and their history.

http://www.colonialcoins.org/

Don
 

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Don in SJ said:
dfx willy said:
great hunt don were did you get the book? willy

I wish I had the book, I don't, a friend emailed me a few years back a page or two concerning I believe my Batty copper, but anyway, no I do not have it but sure would be a nice additon to my reference book section.
For anyone strongly interested in Colonials, I suggest at minimum joining the C4 forums on Yahoo, or join C4 (Colonial Coin Collectors Club) to help increase your knowledge by listening to the real experts in the field converse, and on occasion join in as long as you know what you are talking about. :D

Several on this forum have heeded that advice, it is a open door to more knowledge about our Colonials and their history.

http://www.colonialcoins.org/

Don


So are you saying I should join because they need my input? I know all my dates for George I, II, & III. ;D
 

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Great hunt and stellar coppers. Your soil is quite kind to those!
 

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REAL NICE! Those are some awesome coins......and they sure do come out of the ground in PRETTY condition in your part of Jersey! That Connecticut copper is gorgeous...but so is the Draped Bust and the Flying Eagle!! Nice digs Don! :wav:
 

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