A bad start to my day out detecting turns sweet - More Firsts for the DFX

Johnny Cache Hunter

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Oct 16, 2006
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Minelab Equinox, White's Spectra V3, Minelab Excalibur
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All Treasure Hunting
Well today's a day I'm not likely to forget to quickly. Although I wasn't laughing earlier today, in time to come I'm sure the memories of the days events will probably bring a smile to my face and a little chuckle, in a Homer Simson DOH! kind of way.

I got a call from my friend Lucky Bob yesterday afternoon and he informed me that work at his place was a little slow and that he'd have time on Thursday to do some detecting if I was going to be around. Having ample vacation time stored up, more than 10 weeks, I thought to myself, heck I deserve to take a break and get out for a rare weekday hunt. I'm always good at convincing myself to go detecting.

Lucky had a place picked out that looked real promising, a large forested area that only recently, in the past year or two, had opened up to the public. Prior to that, he explained, the land was controlled by the military for training operations, research and other exercises. I was excited to try something new and did some research using old maps of the area to determine where settlements had existed in this area prior to the military taking control of the land sometime in the 40's.

I found several old cellar holes using the Beers maps dating back to 1875. I took the maps and created overlays on Google earth in order to pinpoint the exact location of the cellar holes, or really as close to the exact locations as possible.

Well Lucky arrived at my house early this morning and off we went. All I knew about where we were headed was that it was once controlled by the military and was now no longer used by them and the area had been turned back over for public use. That, as it turned out, was only partially true.

By the way before I proceed, this whole mess is by no means Lucky's fault, he was just as unaware as I was.

Anyhow we arrived at the woods, which was actually now called a National Wildlife Refuge. OK, to me it just looked like the woods, no different than any other woods I'd ever been in. DOH.

Now we get all geared up and follow the gps to our destination about a half mile or more away from the closest parking area. We arrive at the spot, took a look around and eventually we saw the first cellar hole off to the side of the dirt trail, just as the map had indicated. No sooner had we gotten our bearings when along comes a large SUV driving through the woods on this rather tiny dirt trail. Low and behold it's the FEDS. Apparently, despite our reading about how the place was now open to the public and the fact that there were no signs posted or information about the rules on the message board where we had parked, it is illegal to detect on Federal Wildlife Property. Again, we were in the middle of nowhere, doing nobody any harm, that unfortunately didn't save us from the wrath of the Federal Officer.

He requested, and then took with him, our ID's upon which he then instructed us to return to our vehicle where he'd be waiting for us. After we hiked back, he did return our ID's and although he hinted at thinking to the contrary, he informed us we could hold on to our detecting equipment. He did take digital photos of the equipment, and our vehicle, after which he handed us a nice citation for searching and digging for antiquities. That little number set us each back $125.00, ouch. DOH!

I'll chalk it up to a lesson learned. So much for "This is your land, this my land, from California, to the New York Highlands....".

Lucky and I felt as if someone had hit us over the head with a Lesche shovel. It took a little while to shake it off and move on with the day. I ended up deciding to head over to the spot that had produced the two seated dimes, barber half and civil war token I'd posted a week or two back.

We started hunting and I'd decided to try a different approach and hit some of the more over grown areas, just by moving through them slowly and kicking out the leaves and debris caught between the twiggy vegetation with my foot. This approach paid off as I came across a couple of real nice finds. Two firsts for me!!

I'll let the pictures do the talking about the finds themselves, but I just want to take a moment and praise that darn DFX. Man, that machine and I were made for each other. I went through about three hunts, no more, and then wham, everything clicked for me. I really took to the DFX like a duck to water or a pig to mud. I really enjoy it, and I am absolutely confident, 100%, that I would not be doing as well as I have been had I not decided to upgrade from the machine I had previously been using.

I got three first today, a flying eagle cent, a shield nickel and an expensive detecting lesson.
I can do without another of the latter.

So last thoughts, DO NOT HUNT ON FEDERAL LAND, even if it just looks like some forest in the middle of no place special.

I hope everyone here is doing well, Happy Hunting All!

Johnny Cache Hunter
 

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grasshopper

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that really sucks about the ticket, never heard of anyone getting fined for detecting. nonetheless, great finds!!
 

Baldingboy

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May 17, 2007
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That is really some bad luck. Thanks for the tip. I would have never thought that would be an issue. Happy Hunting Bro.........

Baldingboy
 

TN-Joe

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Oct 8, 2007
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John,
Go to court, and tell the judge the facts. He will 9 out of 10 let you off. The officer must me young.
Any Hoo awesome finds.
HH,
Joe
 

Findone

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Jan 20, 2006
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I was told by VA hospital cops not to bring my MD onto fed land wheather I was going to detect or not! They were nice about it, but dammmmn!
Nice finds, glad your day turned out better.
 

Kas

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Jan 3, 2007
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Nice finds. Always get permission, always.
Yes, you can get fined, and your equipment confiscated never to be returned. The same laws apply if you are hunting or fishing/poaching. Guns fishing tackle, et el.

Lesson learned.
 

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Brush Creek

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A few years back when our country was still great. The lands belonged to the people, You and I.
Now with the new government that has taken power that has all changed. we just have to live with it I recon.

Its a bummer, No more constitution with the patriot acts 1 and 2.
 

Mirage

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Sep 16, 2005
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Wow, what fantastic finds. Glad you "recovered". It's too bad some of the day was ruined but better to have the bad first and then the good.

I'm glad you are doing well with the DFX. Your finds show it. It's a fun machine and great for wandering in the woods.

That Flying Eagle cent is in pretty good condition. And so is that Barber Dime! :icon_sunny: The shield nickel and two center is still on my to find list.

Bob
 

Ron B

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May 11, 2007
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He4y, bad days happen; I'm glad yours turned out better towards the end!

Here, in Trinidad, Colorado we have Lake Trinidad. Nowhere are there Federal signs. One, if unknowing would think it a State Park area which, by the way signs do indicate. Wrong! It's Federal!

My wife and I moved to Colorado from Texas back in 2006 "and" things are certainly different here! Anyway, I had thought about detecting the edges of the lake but thought best to check with the park rangers first. I sure am glad I did! The arrogant guy was the most sour pussed faced gent I had ever met. You would have thought I was talking about murder, pillage, and rape the way he looked at me. Anyway, they can stick that lake up there federal azzes as they can do all their federal parks! :)

GRB (Here's a picture of the lake taken from one of my rear decks)
 

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Green1

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sweeet finds there john !!! your right, it is tough t know sometimes ! i went to a pond just south of boston a ton of times .. saw the park workers during the week lots of times too.. one day one of them walks over and says... dude... i says what.. he tells me i can't be doing that... i looked up the rules and regs when i got home, and sure enough.. all because it's belived indians were once buried there somewhere.. i could undersand if they knew for sure... but any ground ya ever dig into anytime, anyplace, could be possble burial ground for someone..

nice finds, congrads BIG time on the firsts !!! dfx is a great machine in the hands of the right person !!
awesome site you have there !!!!!
 

JerV3

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Nice finds,

To bad about the citation. You can't do anything anymore. He should have cut you a break. I guess in a way he did. He could have taken all of your stuff. The Dfx is a really awesome unit. Your gonna be finding aklot more. The flying eagle is in great shape to.

HH Jer
 

COUNTRY GIRL

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Aug 17, 2006
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WESTERN MASS
Johnny, sorry about the ticket, it could have been worse. You would have thought he would have given you a ride out? :-\

Great day of finds! Could you tel me anything about the silver lady? Hood ornament?

Got more snow today! ::)

Thanks again for the maps, looks like I will have permission to detect the foundations of an old store, post office, button factory, school house, just down the road. Found out a man my husband knows owns the property. Thanks again Johnny!
 

daytondigger

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Oct 6, 2004
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Finds were awesome. I wish you would go to court over that. I'd have to speak my mind in court. I live in NOhio where the state is often as bad or worse than the Feds. NO is a popular word here. The 1916 merc has a mint mark, probably an S, but if it's a D it could pay your fine.
 

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