🥇 BANNER AMAZINGLY rare variety 1652 Oak Tree Threepence - Find of a lifetime!!!

Dirtwisher

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Wow. I've been preparing to write this since I found the coin, but I couldn't even concentrate enough to get my thoughts down, let anyone perform my professional or family duties. Let me set this up a little first though. During the course of the past few years, it has become an obsession for me to ponder the infinitesimal probability of finding of a MA tree coin on every property, park, beach, foundation or town square I drive by. When I saw Abe's incredible pine tree shilling a while back, the possibility seemed somehow more real. Here was a guy in what used to be part of Massachusetts, a guy who puts so much effort into his research and traveling to remote locations in search of old dirt, and he found one. Maybe, just maybe, I could find one too. But usually after five more hours in a field with nothing but a couple shotgun headstamps and some melted lead to show for it, the hope seemed to dim just a little more each day. You can tell this is going to be a long post, can't you...
Then came yesterday afternoon - my second day on a new permission, a smallish field that had an original late 17th/early 18th century home nearby. I had seen it last year, but only got up the nerve to ask permission last week when I was getting very discouraged at my usual spots. I hunted three hours the first day and man, what a letdown. I lost track of how many mangled aluminum cans and pulltabs I unearthed. No shoe buckles, no harmonica reeds, no buttons, not even many square nails, and basically no hope. Then I decided to move to a different smaller field and got a toasted large cent in the path that connected the two fields. I was a little more upbeat then, but could manage nothing else but some more garbage.
I came back yesterday though, because the large cent had stoked the fire just enough. I couldn't write this place off after one day, could I? Well, yesterday was pretty much a carbon copy of the first day. Found a bunch of modern junk, then popped what looks like a toasted KGII from a grassy slope adjacent to a stone wall on the high side of the field. Hmm.... Two coppers in 5 hours... but then two more hours of nothing. I realized what time it was and I had to go home and start making dinner for the kids, so I figured I'd swing by the spot I nabbed the copper and head from there to the car. Yup, the ol' trip to the car story! Sure enough, 20 feet into the corn stalks, I had what rang up at 69 on the Deus. Pretty much figured it was a pulltab, and I was pretty beat from two days of yardwork, but you know how you dig it all when you're on the way to the car? I took one shovelful and it was not in the hole. The pinpointer said it was in the dirt, but I couldn't find it. Then I had something round and SMALL in my palm, so I figured it was part of a beavertail. I picked it up and wiped off some dirt off one edge. The dirt was fairly hard to remove, but I thought I saw and N and an E. I thought, could it be? NO way, don't get your hopes up, so I turn it over and give it a soft, spit-laden wipe. Do I see branches? I DO! Wait, these are NOT pine tree branches... What the heck do the other branches on the MA silver coins look like? I couldn't remember because I thought if I ever found a tree coin, it would be the most common variety of pine tree. By this point I'm shaking, I'm down on one knee, resting the coin on my thigh, trying not to die of excitement. I let out a couple loud "YES! I finally did it!" yells, then got back to absorbing the enormity of the moment. I had to go grocery shopping, do all the dishes and that kind of stuff, so I had to wait until tonight to make sure I had my thoughts together. Here's the proof! Sorry the pics are screenshots - hard to remove GPS info on my laptop...
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Now comes the BEST part - I got home with the coin and tried to figure out what exactly I had found, but I couldn't find any examples anywhere on any website. I thought that might be good, that it might be rare or super rare, but maybe that was my imagination running away with me again. Then my wife sends me to the grocery story so the kids will have something to eat at school. So there I am, last night in the cereal aisle at Stop and Shop, texting Abe pictures of my coin and asking if he can help with an ID and variety. Like the amazing guy he is, he says he will look it up today for me. I never expected what he would text me though. He said he found it in his book, that it is an NOE 26, 4-A.2 Oak Tree, and there are likely BETWEEN 5-8 OF THESE KNOWN!!! Are you kidding me!!!
Oaktreeinfo.jpg I just found one of the rarest freaking coins in the United States!!! I ran downstairs and told my wife to get off the treadmill and tell me who her daddy is. Then I called Abe, who allowed me to go on like a schoolgirl about the find (he encouraged it, actually) and he expressed the most sincere happiness for my find. What a guy. Here's to you, buddy. Sorry for the super long post, friends. I never thought I'd get this opportunity.
Best of luck to everyone. I can't express enough thanks to everyone on T-net for reading, and to whatever force miraculously led my coil over this coin!

Jeff
 

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oxbowbarefoot

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This is definitely one of my favorite things I've ever seen posted. It's right there with Bill D's Lord Baltimore. Absolutely amazing.
 

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congrats man. You are the big daddy now!!!
 

Bill D. (VA)

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This is definitely one of my favorite things I've ever seen posted. It's right there with Bill D's Lord Baltimore. Absolutely amazing.

Thanks for the mention Jason, but a whole tree coin is at or near the top of my list now. But that will be a difficult find down this way. Congrats again on your incredible find as well. Can't believe it didn't make banner.
 

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joeyfresh

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I keep coming back to this. What a high you must be feeling. I recommend Writing an article while your emotions are still flying high and proof it later. I could sense your euphoria in your post here and that same sentiment would translate into a good magazine article. Love it man!
 

K1DDO1979

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My busy work season just started so not much if any chance for me detecting right now but I had to take the time to congratulate you on such a amazing find. Awesome coin!!!! [emoji106]
 

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My busy work season just started so not much if any chance for me detecting right now but I had to take the time to congratulate you on such a amazing find. Awesome coin!!!! [emoji106]

Thanks man, still waking up every morning asking myself if it happened. I have to see it when I wake up. My whole extended family has read the post now (and the entire thread), and they now have the true grasp of my double life. You know what's weird, I haven't picked up the detector since that day. BUT, I did just tell my wife that I'll be detecting every inch of that field with SENS at 96, in full tones, reactivity 1, with a slow swing (not normally my style), and when it's plowed I'm going to do it again, and when it's plowed again I'm going to do it again, and then probably once more after that. I doubt she was surprised by that.
 

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I keep coming back to this. What a high you must be feeling. I recommend Writing an article while your emotions are still flying high and proof it later. I could sense your euphoria in your post here and that same sentiment would translate into a good magazine article. Love it man!

Definitely going to write the article. I always enjoyed writing, which is probably obvious from the book I wrote for my post! I was actually an American Lit major and maybe 26 yrs later it will help with writing the article if they choose to accept it. Thanks again everyone. My 82 yr old mom read the thread and commented on how genuinely happy for me everyone has been. She said it stands in stark contrast to so much social media these days.
I hope you all find that holy grail, whatever it might be in your neck of the woods.
Jeff
 

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Wow, what an amazing find, loved reading through your post as you told the story of how you found it Jeff! :occasion14:

Congratulations on your first well earned BANNER my friend! :notworthy:
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that is probably the coolest American find i have seen on the banner....and there have been A LOT of really cool finds.
 

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Congratulations on a fantastic find! Thanks for taking the time to write a "long post", I enjoyed reading your description of the experience. :)
 

Bill D. (VA)

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Jeff - if you're interested I can put you in contact with the nationally recognized colonial coin expert who handled my Lord Baltimore sixpence. He can probably give you a good idea of how it would grade and what it might bring at auction, should you decide to sell. But I hope you decide to keep it. You can PM me if you'd like.
 

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Bill,
I'm not much into high-fiving, but this find deserves lots of attention. Congratulation from "out West" on your history making find of a lifetime.
Gary
 

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Dirtwisher

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Jeff - if you're interested I can put you in contact with the nationally recognized colonial coin expert who handled my Lord Baltimore sixpence. He can probably give you a good idea of how it would grade and what it might bring at auction, should you decide to sell. But I hope you decide to keep it. You can PM me if you'd like.

Hey Bill,
I'd definitely be interested in getting in touch with this person. If I get a minute later on, I'll PM you my cell #. Thanks for the offer!
Jeff
 

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Bill,
I'm not much into high-fiving, but this find deserves lots of attention. Congratulation from "out West" on your history making find of a lifetime.
Gary

Thanks so much, Gary. I'm still in awe at the kind of praise this find is getting! My wife is cooking dinner while I'm standing at the counter putting down a Friday evening Corona and reading these posts, and I just said to her "how did happen to ME?" It's just awesome and I'll never lose the amazement and pride at the find. We weren't sure how to celebrate the other day, so we went to the local tavern and did our very first shots of Fireball. Couldn't be a better occasion for your first Fireball shot, right?
 

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Ummm. Fireball. Lol. Wow. Congrats on the mass silver. My buddy found a pine tree here on Mv. And I really put a fire under me to get out there and do the research. I thank u for the effort and story.
 

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