🥇 BANNER AMAZINGLY rare variety 1652 Oak Tree Threepence - Find of a lifetime!!!

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Wow. I've been preparing to write this since I found the coin, but I couldn't even concentrate enough to get my thoughts down, let anyone perform my professional or family duties. Let me set this up a little first though. During the course of the past few years, it has become an obsession for me to ponder the infinitesimal probability of finding of a MA tree coin on every property, park, beach, foundation or town square I drive by. When I saw Abe's incredible pine tree shilling a while back, the possibility seemed somehow more real. Here was a guy in what used to be part of Massachusetts, a guy who puts so much effort into his research and traveling to remote locations in search of old dirt, and he found one. Maybe, just maybe, I could find one too. But usually after five more hours in a field with nothing but a couple shotgun headstamps and some melted lead to show for it, the hope seemed to dim just a little more each day. You can tell this is going to be a long post, can't you...
Then came yesterday afternoon - my second day on a new permission, a smallish field that had an original late 17th/early 18th century home nearby. I had seen it last year, but only got up the nerve to ask permission last week when I was getting very discouraged at my usual spots. I hunted three hours the first day and man, what a letdown. I lost track of how many mangled aluminum cans and pulltabs I unearthed. No shoe buckles, no harmonica reeds, no buttons, not even many square nails, and basically no hope. Then I decided to move to a different smaller field and got a toasted large cent in the path that connected the two fields. I was a little more upbeat then, but could manage nothing else but some more garbage.
I came back yesterday though, because the large cent had stoked the fire just enough. I couldn't write this place off after one day, could I? Well, yesterday was pretty much a carbon copy of the first day. Found a bunch of modern junk, then popped what looks like a toasted KGII from a grassy slope adjacent to a stone wall on the high side of the field. Hmm.... Two coppers in 5 hours... but then two more hours of nothing. I realized what time it was and I had to go home and start making dinner for the kids, so I figured I'd swing by the spot I nabbed the copper and head from there to the car. Yup, the ol' trip to the car story! Sure enough, 20 feet into the corn stalks, I had what rang up at 69 on the Deus. Pretty much figured it was a pulltab, and I was pretty beat from two days of yardwork, but you know how you dig it all when you're on the way to the car? I took one shovelful and it was not in the hole. The pinpointer said it was in the dirt, but I couldn't find it. Then I had something round and SMALL in my palm, so I figured it was part of a beavertail. I picked it up and wiped off some dirt off one edge. The dirt was fairly hard to remove, but I thought I saw and N and an E. I thought, could it be? NO way, don't get your hopes up, so I turn it over and give it a soft, spit-laden wipe. Do I see branches? I DO! Wait, these are NOT pine tree branches... What the heck do the other branches on the MA silver coins look like? I couldn't remember because I thought if I ever found a tree coin, it would be the most common variety of pine tree. By this point I'm shaking, I'm down on one knee, resting the coin on my thigh, trying not to die of excitement. I let out a couple loud "YES! I finally did it!" yells, then got back to absorbing the enormity of the moment. I had to go grocery shopping, do all the dishes and that kind of stuff, so I had to wait until tonight to make sure I had my thoughts together. Here's the proof! Sorry the pics are screenshots - hard to remove GPS info on my laptop...
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Now comes the BEST part - I got home with the coin and tried to figure out what exactly I had found, but I couldn't find any examples anywhere on any website. I thought that might be good, that it might be rare or super rare, but maybe that was my imagination running away with me again. Then my wife sends me to the grocery story so the kids will have something to eat at school. So there I am, last night in the cereal aisle at Stop and Shop, texting Abe pictures of my coin and asking if he can help with an ID and variety. Like the amazing guy he is, he says he will look it up today for me. I never expected what he would text me though. He said he found it in his book, that it is an NOE 26, 4-A.2 Oak Tree, and there are likely BETWEEN 5-8 OF THESE KNOWN!!! Are you kidding me!!!
Oaktreeinfo.jpg I just found one of the rarest freaking coins in the United States!!! I ran downstairs and told my wife to get off the treadmill and tell me who her daddy is. Then I called Abe, who allowed me to go on like a schoolgirl about the find (he encouraged it, actually) and he expressed the most sincere happiness for my find. What a guy. Here's to you, buddy. Sorry for the super long post, friends. I never thought I'd get this opportunity.
Best of luck to everyone. I can't express enough thanks to everyone on T-net for reading, and to whatever force miraculously led my coil over this coin!

Jeff
 

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That's a good story. Can't believe he didn't know what he had. The Vineyard has been good to some guys lately. Do you know the guy who found the gold coin last year? That thing was awesome.
 

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Check out the post if you haven't already. I think it was a 1787 gold Guinea or something. Unbelievable find. You've got some good dirt down there - take advantage of it before the summer people come back!
 

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Thanks Terry G! When I saw you're from Australia, I had to view your profile. When I saw that you've made 41 posts since 2009, I was very honored to be the recipient of one of them!!! Your banner was amazing too.
 

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Ha Ha you're killing me! Do you guys know how much I have wanted to have something that would get these kinds of comments? My kids think I'm a dork, but then again so do most of my friends, but all of you guys "get it" so you're awesome.

You say 'dork' like it's a bad thing. ;-)
Congrats!
 

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Epic man...good luck topping that!! Good for you,enjoy it! wow wow wow
 

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Makes sense to me why these coins are being found in regions of the northeast US. Some of the first settlers came to the new world in the northeast.

first colony was founded at Jamestown, Virginia, in 1607. Many of the people who settled in the New World came to escape religious persecution. The Pilgrims, founders of Plymouth, Massachusetts, arrived in 1620. In both Virginia and Massachusetts, the colonists flourished with some assistance from Native Americans.

Congratulations on the great find!
HH
 

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Makes sense to me why these coins are being found in regions of the northeast US. Some of the first settlers came to the new world in the northeast.

first colony was founded at Jamestown, Virginia, in 1607. Many of the people who settled in the New World came to escape religious persecution. The Pilgrims, founders of Plymouth, Massachusetts, arrived in 1620. In both Virginia and Massachusetts, the colonists flourished with some assistance from Native Americans.

Congratulations on the great find!
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A small settlement that is often forgotten about is about 20 min from my house. It was called the Popham Colony and was also established in 1607. We have several early 1600s sites here in midcoast Maine. The big difference in Mass and Maine is that there was a lot more wealth in Mass. My ancestors were poor Irish and Scottish and were sent up here because the British didn't want them there. It's funny that many went to Massachusettes to escape religious persecution then sent others away because they disagreed with their religious beliefs. History is so interesting when you really peel back the layers
 

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Wonderful coin,now go find the willow tree:notworthy::rocks::metaldetector:
 

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Just had to look at this super rare bird again!!!! No time to look for any so this will have to get me by. Congrats again Jeff. I am remotivated to say the least. I WILL be hunting Mass silvers soon
 

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Thanks man. Once you experience the feeling of getting MA silver everything is different. Once the monkey is off the back we believe it can happen again! Hope you get another one when you can get back out there.
 

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Congratulations on a fantastic find. Great post
 

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Makes sense to me why these coins are being found in regions of the northeast US. Some of the first settlers came to the new world in the northeast.

first colony was founded at Jamestown, Virginia, in 1607. Many of the people who settled in the New World came to escape religious persecution. The Pilgrims, founders of Plymouth, Massachusetts, arrived in 1620. In both Virginia and Massachusetts, the colonists flourished with some assistance from Native Americans.


Congratulations on the great find!
HH

My 11th great-grandfather is William Brewster of the Mayflower. I have always wanted to find something that he could have possibly owned or handled. I have tried to find any of his sermons but none have ever been discovered [or surfaced]. The next best thing would be a coin found in any area that he lived in. But I assume any of those lands would be off limits except for those who work for museums.
As you can see I live in Michigan. So I would have to plan a trip over there for at least two or three weeks because I also have genealogy research to do.
 

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My 11th great-grandfather is William Brewster of the Mayflower. I have always wanted to find something that he could have possibly owned or handled. I have tried to find any of his sermons but none have ever been discovered [or surfaced]. The next best thing would be a coin found in any area that he lived in. But I assume any of those lands would be off limits except for those who work for museums.
As you can see I live in Michigan. So I would have to plan a trip over there for at least two or three weeks because I also have genealogy research to do.

Very cool. I too am a descendant of William Brewster. Also George Soule, John Billington(hung in 1630 for murdering his neighbor), and John Alden. My mom is the genealogy queen so I get educated often about these connections. We are going to Wales, Scotland and Ireland soon to visit some of the towns that our ancestors came from....can't wait!!!!
 

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Very cool. I too am a descendant of William Brewster. Also George Soule, John Billington(hung in 1630 for murdering his neighbor), and John Alden. My mom is the genealogy queen so I get educated often about these connections. We are going to Wales, Scotland and Ireland soon to visit some of the towns that our ancestors came from....can't wait!!!!

Are you taking your detector??
 

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