Another colonial silver recovered during Saturdays hunt

Bill D. (VA)

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Another colonial silver recovered during Saturday's hunt

My good friend Dan and I finally made it back to the ugly cut cornfield that produced 3 cut pieces of silver on our first hunt there. We had been led to believe the remaining corn stalks had been mowed down, but when we arrived we could see that was not the case. After meeting with the owner and some of his family members for over an hour we finally made our way back to the field. It was the usual slow going, but we now feel confident that some kind of occupied site was located on the higher ground, especially after Dan was able to uncover what appeared to be part of the brick foundation. Since this area is immediately adjacent to one of our early, mega-productive sites we figured it just might be another tenant house. After Dan recovered an early LC on his very first target it didn't take me long to follow suit. This one was reading in the mid-20s on my F75, and I thought it might be a tombac or small buckle piece. But much to my surprise a tiny piece of silver emerged. It's quite small and super thin, and was also very worn. On one side we initially thought we could see part of a cross that might indicate a cob. But it's much too thin for that, and we later got thinking that maybe it could be part of a hammered coin. Guess we'll never know as the only clue is what looks to be an "8" on one side (the other is slick). Could that be the last digit of the date?? One of the pics below demonstrates how thin this piece is when sandwiched between the 2 cut pieces found on the last hunt. A little later we explored a spring stream at the bottom of an adjacent ravine that was littered with early brick. I got a large and deep iron signal in the bottom of the stream bed, but neither Dan nor I could excavate it due to the water being a little too deep, and we didn't have our water boots with us. But that will be something to check out on the next trip. At that point we moved on to check out some other promising looks spots on the property. But we ended up with a big goose egg until we hit one last spot just as it was getting late. I found an iron patch on some high ground near the edge of the woods, but was disappointed to realize that it was probably from a mid-1800s site based on the few finds I was able to recover. But as Dan mentioned in his post, he found what appeared to be a small 17th century site in a low area just in front of where I was hunting (where he found his cob). I dug a couple items from that area including a cute little colonial hoe right before we called it quits. I've dug quite a few broad hoes over the years, but this one is by far the smallest. It's currently cooking in the electrolysis tank. We hope to hit the cornfield site again, especially since being told by the farmer that he was definitely going to have the stalks cut down soon. And another adjacent area should be cropped as well by the time we can return in a week or 2. Wasn't the most productive hunt, but still had fun on a beautiful, crisp "chamber of commerce" fall day in rural eastern Virginia.

UPDATE: After taking a close look at that tiny piece of silver, I believe it does have a chance to be from a hammered coin. In the first pic below I compare it to one of my 1500s sixpences. What Dan and I originally thought might have been a Spanish cross may actually be a part of the shield on the reverse of a Lizzie silver. The "8" appears to be in a position to be the 3rd digit in the date, which could make this a 1580s coin. It may be wishful thinking on my part, but you never know. Appreciate any comments especially from those guys across the pond.

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That hoe is great and the little slices of silver are fantastic. I don't know how your machine works but I imagine those number are low for silver? When they are that small do they come in kinda choppy or is the tone solid?
 

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Bill D. (VA)

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That hoe is great and the little slices of silver are fantastic. I don't know how your machine works but I imagine those number are low for silver? When they are that small do they come in kinda choppy or is the tone solid?

Yep Greylock, that was an extremely low number for silver, probably the lowest I've ever seen with this machine. Typically cut pieces, like the other 2 in the pic, generally register in the upper 50s on the F75. Of course, the VDI reading you get is directly related to the mass of the item - the bigger the item the higher it reads. As far as being a solid vs choppy signal, that can be related to how the item is oriented in the ground as well as the angle of approach from your coil. On edge can give an erratic signal, or even a double beep. Cut pieces can be even more iffy due to the sharp edges they have. But this particular piece actually came in fairly solid, but just very low on the scale. Seeing how ultra thin it is I guess its believable it came in where it did.
 

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Congrats on adding to your colonial silver count Bill, every little bit counts! I see your hoe collection continues to grow - that's a nice one, not too worn down.
 

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After taking a close look at that tiny piece of silver, I believe it does have a chance to be from a hammered coin. In the pic below I compare it to one of my 1500s sixpences. What Dan and I originally thought might have been a Spanish cross may actually be a part of the shield on the reverse of a Lizzie silver. The "8" appears to be in a position to be the 3rd digit in the date, which could make this a 1580s coin. It may be wishful thinking on my part, but you never know. Appreciate any comments especially from those guys across the pond.

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Bill as always I had a blast...it is odd that we both had that "fooling" target and surprise silver (my little slice of heaven was 38 when I dug it). I do think your coin might be a hammered with the edge clipped off...very odd indeed.
 

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Wish we had old site like that out here, oldest here maybe 1820s. Sweet that you found such a small silver scrap too !! Don't think I've seen any hoes like that one come out the ground here either.
 

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Nice little silver, does look like it could be 1580s by your comparison photo. Nice large cent also! Can't wait to see what you get next! HH!
 

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Man another great hunt my friend. Those are some tiny pieces and impressive that you plucked em out of there. I bet lots of folks don't dig those lil buggers
 

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Bill as always I had a blast...it is odd that we both had that "fooling" target and surprise silver (my little slice of heaven was 38 when I dug it). I do think your coin might be a hammered with the edge clipped off...very odd indeed.

Whoever was living at this site certainly had a strange way of clipping their coins. At least we're finding them.
 

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That is a strange but cool looking hoe Bill and for reason I'm seeing cross of a cob on that tiny silver but it seeing the hammered next to it is swaying me. Great finds Bill!

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Wow, Amazing hammered silvers, I'd only dream of finding one! How did those little slivers show up on your metal detector?
 

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That hoe looks to still have a lot of meat left on it. Very nice silver too:icon_thumright:
 

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Nice finds Bill! Hopefully it turns out to be a hammered. I'm sure you're still on a high from your Lord Baltimore coin! Can't wait to see what you guys find next. It's been pretty slow for me, most sites are tied up for deer season. BUT, there's a great one on the horizon I just got permission to, just waiting for the crop to come out (hopefully very soon)
 

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Thanks for the info Bill. I was going to respond earlier but I couldn't find your post for a while.


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Ya know what I mean? Laughing

Yeah - its getting ridiculous. When that coinman123 guy responded to a 100+ posts a little while ago he sent some fairly new ones on page 1 all the way down to page 3 never to be seen again. This has got to stop as its having a very negative impact on this forum. I sent a PM to the moderator earlier so we'll see if there's anything that can be done.
 

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So Bill? Does that put you one up in the silver battle now?
 

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Yeah - its getting ridiculous. When that coinman123 guy responded to a 100+ posts a little while ago he sent some fairly new ones on page 1 all the way down to page 3 never to be seen again. This has got to stop as its having a very negative impact on this forum. I sent a PM to the moderator earlier so we'll see if there's anything that can be done.

Agreed, this has happened to me many times as well. People posting basically the same comment on every thread....multiple posts within one minute, I can't imagine they're actually reading the story...

Anyways, great finds! I hope you are able to identify the silver...
 

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The forums are similar to shopping, some are small and personable and others is like going to Walmart where there's so much to see and so much crap, but there's a chance a person will run into somebody nice, and a tad of quality finds.

Glad to see this back up on page lone as I totally missed the thread, lesson made where to look back to see a missed thread.

Nice going on another cut piece of silver, shows that you're on your game for sure.

There seems to be a reason for this many cut silvers come off this field Bill, could of been a spot where trading was happening as in market stall. Either way the corn stalks are pain in the butt to find small finds, and I'm sure once they're rolled down the small finds will coming.
 

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