Best NOX Saltwater Beach Settings

[Bharpring]

Has anyone used Park 2 on the saltwater beach?

What have you found your best settings to be as far as recovery speed, iron bias, and sensitivity?

 

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[SittingElf]

Just a question... Why would you use Park2 instead of one of the Beach settings built in, specifically for functioning in saltwater environment?

 

[Bharpring]

Just a question... Why would you use Park2 instead of one of the Beach settings built in, specifically for functioning in saltwater environment?

I have found Park 2 settings to be most useful in general.

Your question begs another question for me.

Does anyone know if there is something programmed into each preset program that cannot be manually adjusted to be exactly like another preset? Or can you start in any preset program (like Park 2) and manually adjust it to be another preset (like Beach 2)?

 

[sprailroad]

I have found Park 2 settings to be most useful in general.

Your question begs another question for me.

Does anyone know if there is something programmed into each preset program that cannot be manually adjusted to be exactly like another preset? Or can you start in any preset program (like Park 2) and manually adjust it to be another preset (like Beach 2)?

I do not quite understand, start in Park 2, and adjust it to become Beach 2, when Beach 2 is already there? I'm just saying.......

 

[SittingElf]

You can locally set parameters in any preset to whatever you like, and they will hold until reset. See page 12 of the manual. Just copy the settings of Park2 to your Beach2, one setting at a time, and you've essentially duplicated it to Beach2. The only global setting that will change all at the same time is Sensitivity.

 

[Bharpring]

I do not quite understand, start in Park 2, and adjust it to become Beach 2, when Beach 2 is already there? I'm just saying.......

On the XP Deus I can start in any preset program and manually adjust to any other preset. There is nothing inherently different about any preset program except that the adjustable settings are different. Is this the same with the Equinox? Or is there something programmed differently in each preset program that is unique to that preset and not adjustable?

I like Park 2 and usually hunt land. I occasionally hunt the Beach but don’t want to spend time making adjustments to Beach 2 to make it like Park 2. This is why I ask.

 

[cooper1841]

Seems like you are making it harder than it has to be........to much micro-managing IMHO just hunt and enjoy! To each their own, but all of your post are on changing settings

 

[Dan(NM)]

On the XP Deus I can start in any preset program and manually adjust to any other preset. There is nothing inherently different about any preset program except that the adjustable settings are different. Is this the same with the Equinox? Or is there something programmed differently in each preset program that is unique to that preset and not adjustable?

I like Park 2 and usually hunt land. I occasionally hunt the Beach but don’t want to spend time making adjustments to Beach 2 to make it like Park 2. This is why I ask.[/QUO

Yes, there is something different within each mode, this is from Minelab

"Let’s assess Multi-IQ for the different Detect Mode search profiles:

Park 1 and Field 1 process a lower weighted frequency combination, as well as using algorithms that maximise ground balancing for soil, to achieve the best signal to noise ratio. Hence being most suited for general detecting, coin hunting, etc.
Park 2 and Field 2 process a higher weighted combination of the Multi-IQ band while still ground balancing for soil. Therefore they will be more sensitive to higher frequency (low conductive) targets, but potentially more susceptible to ground noise.
Beach 1 also processes a lower weighted combination, BUT uses different algorithms to maximise ground balancing for salt. Hence being most suited for both dry and wet sand conditions.
Beach 2 processes a very low weighted frequency combination, using the same algorithms as Beach 1 to maximise ground balancing for salt. This search profile is designed for use in the surf and underwater.
Gold 1 and Gold 2 process the higher weighted combination of the Multi-IQ band while still ground balancing for soil. However, they use different setting parameters better suited for gold nugget hunting."

 

[Philvis]

I'm heading to Nags Head Friday with my son. I'm going to use my EQ600 for the first time at the beach. My son will be using his Go Find 44. Should I choose one beach setting over the other? I've never been a beach hunter. We'll just be hunting the wet and dry sound. Not getting in the water. Thanks!

 

[Bharpring]

On the XP Deus I can start in any preset program and manually adjust to any other preset. There is nothing inherently different about any preset program except that the adjustable settings are different. Is this the same with the Equinox? Or is there something programmed differently in each preset program that is unique to that preset and not adjustable?

I like Park 2 and usually hunt land. I occasionally hunt the Beach but don’t want to spend time making adjustments to Beach 2 to make it like Park 2. This is why I ask.[/QUO

Yes, there is something different within each mode, this is from Minelab

"Let’s assess Multi-IQ for the different Detect Mode search profiles:

Park 1 and Field 1 process a lower weighted frequency combination, as well as using algorithms that maximise ground balancing for soil, to achieve the best signal to noise ratio. Hence being most suited for general detecting, coin hunting, etc.
Park 2 and Field 2 process a higher weighted combination of the Multi-IQ band while still ground balancing for soil. Therefore they will be more sensitive to higher frequency (low conductive) targets, but potentially more susceptible to ground noise.
Beach 1 also processes a lower weighted combination, BUT uses different algorithms to maximise ground balancing for salt. Hence being most suited for both dry and wet sand conditions.
Beach 2 processes a very low weighted frequency combination, using the same algorithms as Beach 1 to maximise ground balancing for salt. This search profile is designed for use in the surf and underwater.
Gold 1 and Gold 2 process the higher weighted combination of the Multi-IQ band while still ground balancing for soil. However, they use different setting parameters better suited for gold nugget hunting."

Ok, thank you. This answers that question.

 

[Bharpring]

Seems like you are making it harder than it has to be........to much micro-managing IMHO just hunt and enjoy! To each their own, but all of your post are on changing settings

I am trying to learn the NOX like I know the Deus, which I’m gathering as much information as possible at the same time possibly helping others learn as well.

I love metal detecting in general but I love finding cool stuff even more and the settings are “where the rubber meets the road”.

Once I get the settings down I will start posting finds.

 

[Rick K]

Salt water is tough to ground balance out without losing sensitivity - multifrequency detectors can do it, but only when set up for those conditions - settings which are otherwise not useful.

The Nox has all that neatly packaged in the Beach 1 and Beach 2 modes. The latter is effective even in running salt water or submerged in it. I doubt that the use of any other mode, plus the adjustment of the limited variables available in thet mode would equal them in salt.

The Nox is not like the Deus. Software algorithms are “embedded” in each of the modes - these are not user accessable variables. On the Deus, the modes are simply a “collection” of presets of the user accessable variables.

 

[GroundBalanced]

I'm heading to Nags Head Friday with my son. I'm going to use my EQ600 for the first time at the beach. My son will be using his Go Find 44. Should I choose one beach setting over the other? I've never been a beach hunter. We'll just be hunting the wet and dry sound. Not getting in the water. Thanks!

Philvis... I use BEACH 1 when hunting the dry sand and edge of the high tide line. But anything in the wet sand or underwater, i'm on BEACH 2. I'm adjusting sensitivity as needed, Groundbalancing if necessary, and adjusting my recovery speed if desired, but other than that - i would stick to 5 or 50 tones and go for BEACH 1 in the DRY and BEACH2 in the WET sand. Good hunting!

 

[Echoplex]

As others have pointed out, each mode has non-adjustable, specialized parameters and algorithms. ML is vague about each mode's algorithms for ground noise and exactly how "frequency-weighting" works, but I am definitely finding the Beach modes work MUCH better on my beaches, which are loaded with black sand. The other modes can't handle the beach here without neutering the sensitivity, so there is definitely some ML magic going on to process the salt and minerals in those modes - Their secret sauce. It's such a brilliant design, IMO. Can you imagine what kind of machines we will have, say 5 to 10 years from now, when Multi-IQ has evolved? It's a great time to be a detectorist.

 

[flgliderpilot]

This is good info.. I was wondering this myself and was just about to ask.

I've been running my machine exclusively in a customized Beach 2 even in the dry sand .. only because I tend work the bank and the dry sand together now and then, and well, the dry sand hasn't been all that dry due to rain.

Going to need to try Beach 1 now and compare.

 

[Philvis]

Salt water is tough to ground balance out without losing sensitivity - multifrequency detectors can do it, but only when set up for those conditions - settings which are otherwise not useful.

The Nox has all that neatly packaged in the Beach 1 and Beach 2 modes. The latter is effective even in running salt water or submerged in it. I doubt that the use of any other mode, plus the adjustment of the limited variables available in thet mode would equal them in salt.

The Nox is not like the Deus. Software algorithms are “embedded” in each of the modes - these are not user accessable variables. On the Deus, the modes are simply a “collection” of presets of the user accessable variables.

Thanks for the insight! Fingers crossed I run across some good stuff!

 

[Rick K]

Before we get too carried away with Nox secret sauce, it’s worth remembering that the Fisher CZ series from almost 20 years ago had exactly the same sort of algorithm adjustment when switched to the “salt” mode.

I agree that the Nox is more advanced in many Respects, but using multifrequency transmission and seperately processing the returned 2 or 3 signals is not new. Minelab and Fisher started doing that about the same time.

 

[NowandThenTreasures]

Curious how many Nox owners who hunt predominantly in salt water or wet sand "tweak" settings for maximum jewelry or coin results without digging to many junk targets by using Park settings, lowering swing rate for added depth, etc?
Then what about ideal Nox settings for fresh water lakes, streams or rivers?

 

[pa-dirt_nc-sand]

Curious how many Nox owners who hunt predominantly in salt water or wet sand "tweak" settings for maximum jewelry or coin results without digging to many junk targets by using Park settings, lowering swing rate for added depth, etc?
Then what about ideal Nox settings for fresh water lakes, streams or rivers?

Fresh water I would use Park1, tweak sensitivity.

 

[ColonelDan]

Curious how many Nox owners who hunt predominantly in salt water or wet sand "tweak" settings for maximum jewelry or coin results without digging to many junk targets by using Park settings, lowering swing rate for added depth, etc?
Then what about ideal Nox settings for fresh water lakes, streams or rivers?

I always "tweak" my settings based on the conditions of the particular saltwater beach I'm hunting. Through years of hunting multiple saltwater beaches, I've found that I can walk a mere few hundred yards and the conditions may very well change significantly enough that "tweaking" is beneficial. If I change sensitivity or modes, I always noise cancel after the change.

I start with Beach 1 on the dry and damp sand and switch to Beach 2 for the wet sand and surf. I always noise cancel, ground balance and adjust sensitivity and recovery speed to meet the specific conditions. One way I test the specific conditions of a beach after noise cancelling and ground balancing is to bury a gold ring on the beach at 9 inches when I first get there. I then "tweak" the settings to find the best hit on that ring.

I've tried Park and Field modes on the beach but for me, the Beach modes work best in my area.

Just FYI, I differentiate damp from wet sand in that the damp sand is the area where the tide has receded to the point that the waves no longer come up and cover that area but the sand is still damp. The wet sand is where the waves still come up and cover the sand keeping it totally soaked.

All this is just me...your view and method may vary based on what you've found works best in your area.