Cache Marker? Grave? What is it?

[slimjim1987]

Hey all!


I found this concrete block in the woods a few days ago while detecting what I believe is an old community. There are no houses left, only bricks scattered around. The writing in the concrete was made while it was still wet, not hardened. It has the initials JAW, and gives the date of Nov 2 1927. The N is backward in Nov. Hopefully you can make it out in the picture. The block is probably about 4x2.

My question is, I'm getting an iron reading on the block of concrete. Not sure if they put rebar in it back then or not. I don't think it's a grave, since it is so crudely done, but would like some other opinions. There is no other concrete in the area.

 

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[austin]

Real grave of Revielle I. Just kidding, it might be the front piece of a store or a walkway and was marked by the person who either poured it or came along and marked it. How deep is the signal? Under it or in the middle of it? Could be anything. You won't know until you check.

 

[slimjim1987]

Well, even if it was reveille I would still dig it up if there was some silver there....maybe I'm not the most die hard aggie out there, haha.

 

[Dihren]

Well, even if it was reveille I would still dig it up if there was some silver there....maybe I'm not the most die hard aggie out there, haha.

Go dig it up!!!

 

[Dixiegal]

I don't know what state you are in but the KGC loved backwards letters and numbers. I would move the concrete block out of the way then hit the spot with a metal detector. If you get a hit then dig. If not put the block back and move on.

 

[austin]

I like Dixiegal's advice. There may be a treasure there.

 

[diggummup]

Rebar was used back then. Your signal is most likely steel reinforcement in the concrete. There's only one way to find out.

 

[Hoppus]

I would be surprised if it was rebar considering the small size of the block but it is definitely possible. If it's movable I would definitely go with Dixiegal on this one and just pull it out of the way.

 

[diggummup]

Yeah, how heavy is it? You say it's 2 x 4, I would assume that means feet. How thick is it? I would have tried moving it when I was detecting there myself. So, i'm gonna assume maybe you tried to move it and it was too heavy for ya?

 

[NW Digger]

Yeah, how heavy is it? You say it's 2 x 4, I would assume that means feet. How thick is it? I would have tried moving it when I was detecting there myself. So, i'm gonna assume maybe you tried to move it and it was too heavy for ya?

I agree, I'm sure most of us would have tried to move it. 2'x4' even at 4-5 inches thick, that's gonna be a heavy rock!

 

[diggummup]

I agree, I'm sure most of us would have tried to move it. 2'x4' even at 4-5 inches thick, that's gonna be a heavy rock!

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. At those dimensions even a 4" thick piece would weigh approx. 350 pounds. Too heavy for most to lift without a lever & fulcrum, or a hunting partner. Although, the length looks like it's 4 times the size of the width, so I'm sure those measurements are way off from the get go. Whatever it is... 4 x 2 it isn't.


Get out there with a partner or bring/find something to use as a lever and get it moved, we are curious!

 

[lost]

When I was just a kid rabbit hunting with my dad, we ran across a slab like you described. Just laying flat in a field about 100 feet from the edge of a stand of Oak Trees. After some scrubbing and cleaning with sticks and grass we made out the name of a local woman who passed in the '20's. My Dad remembered the family. It looked like the slab was a poured concrete Tombstone and the info was scratched in before it dried. We looked for depressions in the ground that might mark a grave. Found none. Dad notified the lady's family where the stone was. We never heard anymore about the find. Maybe that's what you have.

 

[Curtis]

Take pictures of the orientation of the letters to somethingelse like a rock or notable land mark...so you can replace it exactly as it was...KGC were notorious for alignments with other objects ... also used geometryto distinguish to the next lead or position of treasure....one of the lettersmaybe the indicator...if moved it would be out of alignment and you mightfigure it out but be a long way off if its moved any --remember a few degreehere means a big amount out there 100 feet or yards.

 

[uglymailman]

Just for rule of thumb, a 6" dia. tube of concrete 3' long will weigh just under 100 lbs. I poured over 1000 or them to use as survey markers and we bought 2000. The ones we poured were about 101 and the bought ones were just over 98 lbs. So.....a 2'X4' slab will be something like 500 lbs per every 6" thick. Better take a pretty good pry bar and something to use as a fulcrum. Good luck.

 

[boogeyman]

Just a thought...... Where is it located in relation to structures or foundations? Possibly a grave marker with an urn underneath. Might want to probe under it before running into the problem of digging up someone.

 

[slimjim1987]

Y'all are definitely correct, my dimensions are off now that I think about it and look at the photo. Unfortunately, it's larger that 4x2. Probably more like 5x2. and we did dig down beside it to see how thick it is, which I would estimate to be between 8 and 10 inches thick. May need to see if I can get a tractor in there to lift it.

 

[uglymailman]

Update? You dont need a tractor, just a couple of guys w/long pry bars. You'd be amazed how much you can move.

 

[austin]

Senor aggie: Please hurry and lift the damm thing before I die of old age. The suspense is killing me...

 

[Connecticut Sam]

Don't worry austin, we get together and pay for your grave marker.

 

[adaminnh]

Can I ask what KGC is?