✅ SOLVED can anyone help with these items.....

[metal addict]

I was hunting a late 1700s home and came across these items....if anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated....the ball is lightweight copper and has a seam where both halves join together,it also has a flat spot on the bottom and is stamped with a crown.....anyone know how to date the buckles?any help on these is much appreciated.....thanks in advance

 

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[creskol]

The last two are the remains of talc powder cans .

 

[metal addict]

thanks...that was quick....any idea how old

 

[taz42o]

I think the third pic is a broken trigger guard. Forth pic, first item is a model T radiator cap.

 

[metal addict]

thanks, appreciate it any ideas on the ball

 

[longcut]

the ball looks like a float out of a commode tank .............that would not match up with the dates of the property , but sure looks like one ......

 

[metal addict]

Good thought but it doesn't have a spot to attach to anything....im stumped on this one..when I found it it was all curled up into a football shape and I worked back to its original ball shape...there aren't any other marking except the stamped crown and the flat bottom so when its placed down it won't roll away....HH

 

[BARKER]

HI Metal Addict; the ball is called a Crotal Ball or bell. It would have had a small ball inside of it to rattle around as the animal it was on walked around. Yours is a very early one from I think 1740 - 1750. I don't think it was much newer than that. It is very crudely made ok. On the buckles. One is a rectangle buckle and the other is a D buckle. The rectangle buckle would have been used for almost any purpose. The D buckle would have been used for things like a belt buckle or horse strap buckle ok. Both are the same age as the Crotal Ball ok. The Ball is valued at $10. The other piece appears to be a gun part. The rest is neat junk ok. I hope this helps. PEACE:RONB

 

[surf]

I thought toilet float, too, when I saw the copper ball.


Victorian Stlye Antique Copper Toilet Roll Holder The Crown Toilet Fixture

 

[metal addict]

Thanks Barker. Appreciate your info...were you able to find a pic online of the bell or have you seen one like this before...

 

[surf]

I disagree on the "crotal bell" attribution. These bells were cast, if I'm seeing the OP's dark photo correctly, it is of two thin gauge hemispheres.

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[metal addict]

Hey surf...Sorry about the pics I don't have a good camera ...but yes they are thin copper halfs that fit together to make a ball....im stumped but would really like to figure this one out....what do you think...has a flat bottom spot

 

[longcut]

wonder if the ball could have been some sort of float for a fishing net ... I know glass balls were used , maybe the copper one with the crown was a " licenses tax" the British levied ............ fisherman nets today have to have a tag on them with licenses and name and stuff ...

 

[surf]

I'm sticking with copper float.


Toilet Tank Float Copper Ball Hardware Vintage

 

[metal addict]

I respectfully disagree..im a plumber by trade and have seen a lot of old flush assemblies...this is different there isn't any points where it could be attached to anything...also it was never soldered together (water tight)...it has a flat spot on the bottom...here are some more pics let me know if you come up with anything else....

 

[surf]

Hey, thanks for the much better photos.

My only other thought would be a globe from a weather vane, but believe that too would involve solder, and attachment points…

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