aarthrj3811
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I intend to try dowsing, by the way.
There is a thread called Want to try dowsing. The first part should let you know if it will work for you
I intend to try dowsing, by the way.
Us dowsers have been telling you scientific guys all along that dowsing works and and that science has no authority over it. But you don't listen very well.
..... dowsing works and and that science has no authority over it. .....
I guess you probably wouldn't want to continually cite a scientist as a source of authority in support of dowsing......
Wait, I thought we just had this discussion ? That it is totally scientific . (even if, albeit ... unkown science) ? You got me confused
Les, I agree with this definition of guessing. And that , yes, md'rs go on "gut instinct" (ie.: guessing), to decide which end of the field to progress to. Sure. But if you're morphing that into an explanation of what is going on, in the dowser's mind as well, then : Perhaps the dowser could have done the same thing (just like the md'r does) without rods ? Ie.: that the rods were doing nothing ?
I mean, are the rods themselves doing something, or aren't they ? Or, to be more specific: Is there a physical attraction between the rods and the object ? Or is it all just in the mind of the dowser ?
Tom, I mental dowse.....
.... This means dowsers brain and nervous systems are sensing a target's energy transmission from over there and not just from the rods moving by themselves. Therefore. I am going to get a very nice looking lucky charm with a number "7" etched on it to boost my brain and nervous system sensitivity and confidence factors......
.... You and other skeptics have scoffed at dowsers who use a metal detector to pinpoint for a target underneath where dowsing rods cross. Yet the md'r does the exact same thing by scanning the ground area over there for any unseen target's. When you look at it carefully. you'll see it is all the same thing......
.... The difference between the two is, by using rods that point in that direction, the dowser gains a better and clearer indication, in advance, where a target is before he takes one step to go verify......
I have no problem with it being called science. ....
.... dowsing fails in the double blinded test.....
Option E: I believe it is already discovered science as a function of our nervous system sensing a targets energy over there. Then our subconsciousness minds moves our hands so that the rod / s react by closing and / or pointing in that direction over there.Ok then, how about:
a) Instead of attributing the power to "mental" (which can just be gut-intuition, thus lending no power to rods or thumbs)
b) Instead of attributing it to science (lest some scientist show that it is impossible.)
c) Instead of attributing it to supernatural/mystics (lest it fall into an area of occult or religion),
Then maybe the best is:
d) Undiscovered science ?
Option (d) would put it outside any realm of ability to discuss the "how" question. That makes it impenetrable to deba and explained , in aprt, what Einstein said about out nervous system. Ite. Because , after all, it's undiscovered. Some day science will come along and explain it. But as for now, we just don't know.
Then if we go with option D, then the only thing left to do is test the ability. FORGET "how" it works. Just discuss the ability to find. And that's where double blind tests come in. Right ? But as you've said:
Option E: I believe it is already discovered science as a function of our nervous system sensing a targets energy over there......
... dowsing works and and that science has no authority over it.... .
Option E: I believe it is already discovered science as a function of our nervous system sensing a targets energy over there. Then our subconsciousness minds moves our hands so that the rod / s react by closing and / or pointing in that direction over there.
It is now just a matter of developing ways to further enhancie the brains ability to do that. Enter the lucky charm that helps clear the mind of all the junk, trashy thinking, confusion, and negativity that gets in the way. That being done, confidence is increased and so is success in finding targets..
Not dizzying at all.See why this is dizzying ?
All we can really say is that Einstein didn't understand dowsing. Other scientists did, even in 1946.
But if there were no finds in the field at any time by dowsers while dowsing, then and only then would science have authority to say dowsing does not work.
I did not know tennis balls could hold dowsing rods. This has got to be some kind of new science at work here.I would be shocked if dowsers never found anything. I would be equally shock if tennis balls never found anything.
I would be shocked if dowsers never found anything. I would be equally shock if tennis balls never found anything.