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lib·er·al
[lib-er-uhl, lib-ruhl]

adjective
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favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.

2.
( often initial capital letter ) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.

3.
of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism, especially the freedom of the individual and governmental guarantees of individual rights and liberties.

4.
favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, especially as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.

5.
favoring or permitting freedom of action, especially with respect to matters of personal belief or expression: a liberal policy toward dissident artists and writers.


New definitions: 'Liberal' vs. 'conservative'
Hal Lindsey
Published: 10/28/2004 at 1:00 AM <---Note 2004

When I was growing up, the political labels “conservative” and “liberal” basically described fiscal philosophies.

Of course, there were exceptions. For instance, for much of the last 40 years, “conservative” denoted a more nationalistic, democracy-inclined outlook.


“Liberal” implied a much greater acceptance of competing worldviews like socialism and communism. But as a rule, the labels usually indicated a philosophic divide over the role of government and its claim on our tax dollars. “Conservatives” generally favored allowing private initiative to flourish without overbearing governmental intrusion. In other words, the “keep the government’s hands out of our wallets and we’ll all be better off” kind of thinking.

“Liberals” usually felt that only the government could wield the kind of power needed to tackle society’s biggest problems. And certainly only the government could solve those problems with fairness and impartiality. Their thinking was, “Don’t trust big business. Only big government will bother to take care of the little guy.”

But beyond those fiscal and political differences, many of the people of both stripes were remarkably similar. There were good, moral, spiritual people on both sides of the aisle. Though they usually disagreed on domestic issues, they often stood together on foreign issues.

Though they often disagreed on how many tax dollars to collect and how to spend those dollars, they frequently agreed on issues of moral consequence to the nation. It was not uncommon for a fiscal “liberal” to be spiritually and morally conservative.

THIS IS NOT THE CASE ANYMORE!

Of course, there are always exceptions on both sides. But by and large, the core beliefs of a “conservative” and a “liberal” in past decades are as I have outlined them above.

But these labels do not mean the same thing today. When you examine the fiscal philosophies of the two major political parties, they are now unfortunately similar.

Though the Republicans decry big government, Republican administrations usually do very little to downsize.

On the other hand, the Democrats are currently attempting to claim the mantel of “peacemaker” while charging the Republicans with “warmongering.” They conveniently ignore the fact that in the last half-century, with just a couple of exceptions, America has entered into every conflict or war under Democratic leadership.

But the thing that concerns me most – and should concern all Christians – is this: The characteristics that used to define and divide conservatives and liberals – economics and government – now don’t seem so defining. And the qualities that used to unite members of both major parties – morality and national pride – are now the arena of all-out warfare. It is the great divide.

Putting the issues succinctly into today’s realities, it looks like this: If you are a “liberal,” you favor abortion and you support homosexual marriage. You want to see prayer banned from public gatherings and you think all Scripture – including the Ten Commandments, which form the basis of our system of law – should be removed from the public square. You believe that condemning certain deviant behavior should be a crime.

If you are a “liberal,” you think government can make better decisions and spend your money more wisely than you. You believe that legislation can dramatically improve the fortunes of all Americans. You think that taxpayers should foot the bill for many who either don’t want to work or can’t work as a result of their destructive lifestyles.

A “liberal” today takes comfort in the knowledge that even if America’s citizens, legislators and Constitution get it wrong, somewhere there’s an unelected judge that will make it right. Especially in the Supreme Court, which to the liberal exceeds the authority of the Constitution.

Furthermore, the majority of liberals think the United States is responsible for most of the conflict, poverty, pollution and hardship in the world. You believe America should place itself under the supervision and direction of the United Nations, functioning not as a sovereign nation, but as a member of the collective.

And most concerning of all, if you are a liberal, you are convinced that religion has caused most of our problems and should either be banned or tightly controlled.

Finally, if you are a “liberal,” you probably don’t believe there should be any restrictions on your moral or ethical behavior.

At the other end of the spectrum lie the “conservatives.”

“Conservatives” predominantly believe that life is given by God and begins at conception. They believe it is therefore sacred and to be revered and preserved at all cost. You think that our basic rights are granted by God, Himself – not by governments of men or human courts – and therefore cannot be denied without penalty. “Conservatives” believe our nation was founded by Christians on Judeo-Christian principles – that those principles and values have enabled our nation to become strong and prosperous.

If you are a conservative, you probably are convinced that it is not only our right to worship without interference, but that it is our obligation to publicly remind ourselves from whence our strength and blessings flow.

As a conservative, you understand that marriage is a sacred institution designed by God to be the union of one man and one woman. You think that when society condones and sanctions deviant behavior, destructive lifestyles and moral depravity, it degrades and weakens our nation.

A “conservative” believes in the power and the rights of the individual, the family and the private sector to create and preserve wealth. You believe that our earned wealth is to enhance our lives. You are confident that government should play an important role in protecting the nation, supplying common essential services, and providing a safety net for the weaker and less fortunate in our midst. It should, however, be our servant and not our master.

Finally, if you are a conservative, you probably believe that God raised up the United States of America and continues to bless her because she honors Him. You believe that we owe our allegiance to her – not to a cartel of nations that are determined to see her humiliated and hobbled.

You believe America should stand for honor, equality, morality and righteousness, and that we should be prepared and willing to defend those virtues no matter the price.

Twelve years ago, the campaign slogan that propelled Bill Clinton to victory was: “It’s the economy … Stupid.” But to the informed and critically thinking person today, there are much more important issues than just the economy.

We are facing an enemy that hides in the shadows, doesn’t play by any of the rules, and is determined to use any means to bring about our literal annihilation.

And though this aptly describes the Islamic fanatics who seek our destruction, it also describes the enemy that lurks among us. The enemy that seeks to remake America from within.

Twelve years ago, you could vote for the liberal agenda and plausibly convince yourself that you were just calling for a change in fiscal philosophies. Today, you don’t have that luxury. A vote for the conservative cause next week – ( Note 2004 ) in the national, state and local races – is a vote to continue the effort to reverse America’s decline and restore her to a path of morality, conscience and strength of character. It’s a vote to continue America’s return to her rightful place as the strongest beacon of hope in a terrified world.

Please, make your voice heard. Be strong and stand by your convictions, not upon who makes the biggest claim of increasing your paycheck. Take this opportunity – it may be one of our last – to re-assert our claim to America’s Judeo-Christian heritage.

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Unfortunately I'm headed into work will have to respond later. I am thankful for a great job, but would rather be on a beach watching the sunrise with Excal in hand!
 

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Unfortunately I'm headed into work will have to respond later. I am thankful for a great job, but would rather be on a beach watching the sunrise with Excal in hand!

We will all be here later. I use my phone to post throughout the day...

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Okay, I have an honest question for all the good liberal folks out there...Most of us that are an average of sixty or more years of age can remember a time when American culture and lifestyle were different...A lot fewer divorces.. A lot less fatherless children...A lot less substance abuse...A lot less violent crime...A lot less uneducated graduates...A lot less teen pregnancies...A lot less teens with STDs...A lot less popular music that glorifies the dis-respecting of women and the killing of police officers...A lot less murder\ kidnapping of young people, all these things are up per capita...Those with the wisdom to recognize these things realize I can go and on about the ways American society is continually deteriorating, I really feel for the young folks alive today who have no idea what we used to have and what they are missing, and I cringe for them at how ignorant some of their comments sound to those of us old enough to know better.

(I do realize the good old days weren't perfect okay? Terrible things like the subjugation of Women and the Jim Crow laws, etc. were indeed hideous, but those situations and others have improved and are still being rightfully fought for today).

So here is my question to liberals...What is the reason for the all the inescapable examples of our moral, societal, and intellectual decay, what has caused it if not the liberal education system combined with the mainstream media liberal bias which together produce the elections of liberal politicians, and enactment of liberal laws, which bring more societal decay? Please don't try to debunk the idea that our cultural and societal morals are decaying, (respectfully) it will make you appear as though you don't know what is going on around you...Just wondering what the liberal reasoning is for all this happening.

Parents that dont care, environments that aren't supportive, people that blame everyone except themselves, and probably the most important - the decline of the american family's ability to have a meaningful career that could both support the household and be able to lead a meaningful life/raise your kids properly (aka poverty).
 

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Parents that dont care, environments that aren't supportive, people that blame everyone except themselves, and probably the most important - the decline of the american family's ability to have a meaningful career that could both support the household and be able to lead a meaningful life/raise your kids properly (aka poverty).

These are some valid points Ben.

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Those are valid points. But what defines a meaningful career? Not all of us are engineers and doctors. All of us are not college material, what is the meaningful career path that a young person that cannot add 25+25 correctly? How do you elevate someone to a "meaningful life" at 50K a year that cannot read or write, but still has children? What is that job?

Maybe it does have something to do with self determination. Telling someone they can't make it and someone is keeping them down all of the time and giving them free stuff is a sure way to keep them down, do you think?

Meaningful careers and lives are a nice slogan,, but that is all it is,, it is meant to build resentment and divisiveness. It gives unscrupulous politicians a power base of a self defeated electorate.
 

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Those are valid points. But what defines a meaningful career? Not all of us are engineers and doctors. All of us are not college material, what is the meaningful career path that a young person that cannot add 25+25 correctly? How do you elevate someone to a "meaningful life" at 50K a year that cannot read or write, but still has children? What is that job?

Maybe it does have something to do with self determination. Telling someone they can't make it and someone is keeping them down all of the time and giving them free stuff is a sure way to keep them down, do you think?

Meaningful careers and lives are a nice slogan,, but that is all it is,, it is meant to build resentment and divisiveness. It gives unscrupulous politicians a power base of a self defeated electorate.

Dave,

A meaningful career to me means earning a living that can support your family. It is not measured by happiness. Working a minimum wage job would not qualify because it has been proven that minimum wage does not support even 1 person, let alone an entire family.
There are plenty of professions where one could earn enough to support their family, that do not require skills obtained in a traditional school - such as certain trades.

I could not agree with you more, Dave, that not all people are college material. That is ok. Many people would benefit greatly from learning a trade rather than wasting their time going to a traditional college.
 

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Poor life choices early affect your lives later on. People who make poor choices about their education at ages 14-24 will suffer in later years.

We are not responsible for their poor choices, drop out of school, or if they don't pursue a career path or plan for a career that has a future and train for it they will suffer the consequences of their poor choices....


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It's all been down hill since the Beetles and Elvis I guess? I'm sorry you blame us for all these societal issues, but I think you're really making a terrible inference here.

Beatles? maybe...But Elvis...are you kidding?, Elvis got drafted into the US Army and served honorably in Germany!...Thanks for the kind tone of your response, however, I am still wishing to respectfully understand what the liberal reasoning is all of the societal ills that have exploded since the Woodstock\ Counter Culture generation came of age and took power in the US...(A generation which I am a part of, and mostly ashamed of). I appreciate your opinion and would still like to know what liberals blame for all this cultural decay.
 

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Parents that dont care, environments that aren't supportive, people that blame everyone except themselves, and probably the most important - the decline of the american family's ability to have a meaningful career that could both support the household and be able to lead a meaningful life/raise your kids properly (aka poverty).

Thanks for the kind response, but if you will, bear with me and let me try again...you pointed out the following: apathetic parents, individuals who blame others, and lack of an economy that produces a living wage... These three things are merely more examples of our moral decay, not an opinion of why they are happening.

If my question seemed like a request for more examples of moral decay I am sorry for the misunderstanding. My question reworded is this...What do liberal minded folks blame for the fact that today we have way more parents who don't care, way more individuals who blame others, and an a lifeless economy, etc, ect, etc...(think more "why" and not "what")...such as, why do we have more parents who don't care about their children today, etc?

PS. I know plenty of local folks who home school, grow gardens, raise chickens, one family has eight kids they just built a new house and live well on one moderate income, they don't have things like television and their kids are the happiest, smartest, most well adjusted, most respectful teens you will ever meet...so It can be done in this era of "Corporate greed", it just takes more work than most are willing to do in this age of mass media and cable television...Some say home schooled kids are not properly "socialized"...that is another debate I am chompin' at the bit for, but maybe another day...so "why" do liberals think things like parents who don't care, etc, etc is on the rise.
 

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Thanks for the kind response, but if you will, bear with me and let me try again...you pointed out the following: apathetic parents, individuals who blame others, and lack of an economy that produces a living wage... These three things are merely more examples of our moral decay, not an opinion of why they are happening.

If my question seemed like a request for more examples of moral decay I am sorry for the misunderstanding. My question reworded is this...What do liberal minded folks blame for the fact that today we have way more parents who don't care, way more individuals who blame others, and an a lifeless economy, etc, ect, etc...(think more "why" and not "what")...such as, why do we have more parents who don't care about their children today, etc?

PS. I know plenty of local folks who home school, grow gardens, raise chickens, one family has eight kids they just built a new house and live well on one moderate income, they don't have things like television and their kids are the happiest, smartest, most well adjusted, most respectful teens you will ever meet...so It can be done in this era of "Corporate greed", it just takes more work than most are willing to do in this age of mass media and cable television...Some say home schooled kids are not properly "socialized"...that is another debate I am chompin' at the bit for, but maybe another day...so "why" do liberals think things like parents who don't care, etc, etc is on the rise.

Globalization aided by the Internet and explosive technological growth. That and an unsustainable population growth. This leads to less opportunities to go around for the already too many people in search of them.
 

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I blame humans.
social an economic behaviors

Respectfully, "why" do you think the social and economic behaviors of humans have descended so far of late, last 40 years or so? ...Or this way: why are "human" teens having more unwanted "human" pregnancies, why more "human" teens with STDs, why more "human" substance abuse than past eras in the US. Why are more "human" couples getting divorces, etc, etc, etc...Not trying to ridicule you kind response, just trying to clarify the question...I guess I am still looking for why liberals think human behavior has come to these increases in the awful consequences of moral decline. No one seems to want to tell me the "why" in why they think we have all this today and not so much just a short while back". What happened if not the coming to power of liberal idealism?
 

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Thanks for the kind response, but if you will, bear with me and let me try again...you pointed out the following: apathetic parents, individuals who blame others, and lack of an economy that produces a living wage... These three things are merely more examples of our moral decay, not an opinion of why they are happening.

If my question seemed like a request for more examples of moral decay I am sorry for the misunderstanding. My question reworded is this...What do liberal minded folks blame for the fact that today we have way more parents who don't care, way more individuals who blame others, and an a lifeless economy, etc, ect, etc...(think more "why" and not "what")...such as, why do we have more parents who don't care about their children today, etc?

PS. I know plenty of local folks who home school, grow gardens, raise chickens, one family has eight kids they just built a new house and live well on one moderate income, they don't have things like television and their kids are the happiest, smartest, most well adjusted, most respectful teens you will ever meet...so It can be done in this era of "Corporate greed", it just takes more work than most are willing to do in this age of mass media and cable television...Some say home schooled kids are not properly "socialized"...that is another debate I am chompin' at the bit for, but maybe another day...so "why" do liberals think things like parents who don't care, etc, etc is on the rise.

Entitlements, and removing god from our culture along with political correctness...but I am not a liberal.

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Globalization aided by the Internet and explosive technological growth. That and an unsustainable population growth. This leads to less opportunities to go around for the already too many people in search of them.

I have no idea what the things you mentioned have to do with why my niece would be pregnant and have an STD while her Univ. Prof. preaches promiscuous sex is morally right.
 

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I have no idea what the things you mentioned have to do with why my niece would be pregnant and have an STD while her Univ. Prof. preaches promiscuous sex is morally right.

Ok, well this conversation just "degraded" into something that I no longer wish to pertake in. Sorry my response did not fit into what you wanted to hear. Have a good weekend.
 

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I don't believe any professor teach irresponsible behaviors...perhaps there might be some, but the system weeds the predators as soon as identified.

the culture of consumerism is the basis of all woes in todays society...the me.. me.. me..i want it now behavior
has nothing to do with liberals, it is consumerism...unsustainable growth and use of resources...which create haves and have nots, not based upon skill or intelligence, but who has the most money...no matter how unethical methods used to gain wealth.
 

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Entitlements, and removing god from our culture along with political correctness...but I am not a liberal.

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Nailed it BIGTIME, my friend!!... YE HAA, WELL DONE, and ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! :notworthy::hello2::headbang::occasion14::icon_salut: Still haven't gotten a response from our good liberal friends on the "why".
 

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Well, that is a fine theory about overpopulation,, but progressives have come up with many ways to rectify it. Abortions and mass slaughters all fit the response.

Margaret Sanger on the front side, worked explicitly to cut down a race of people. George Bernard Shaw thought we should make people justify their existence, if they couldn't, euthanize them. What a wonderful world it would be when all the ills have been fixed this way, Huh.

Overpopulation would show itself in a different way than no jobs. The current policies are the reason there are fewer jobs, Not too many people. Ah the good old days of 4 % unemployment and all of the media screaming that that guy over there doesn't have a job! "Unacceptable" seemed to be the liberal chant when the unemployment hit 5% under someone else. And the National debt was a tad bit lower too, but you wouldn't believe that if you were fed a steady diet of NPR.
 

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removing god? what nonsense...
god is the reason being used to justify war across the globe.
maybe if we did leave god out of things, people would quit fighting...

fundamentalist of any religion are fanatics...fanatics of any type are a threat to civilization. historic fact!
 

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