Colonial silver knee buckle. Officer's 18th century artillery button. Some coins.

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The heat is absolutely unbearable this year. Managed to hunt only twice this week, each time not longer than 2-3 hours. But I still managed to find some interesting relics and coins.

My favorite find was on my bucket list for a few years.
An early silver knee buckle.

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My best guess would be 18th Century.
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The buckle has a maker's mark which seems to be T.W I haven't seen any city marks or a year letter
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I'm not sure who's the maker or if it was made in England or the New World. The English maker's mark that ressembles the one found on the buckle is that of Thomas Wallice from the late 1700's If someone has an idea on why it's missing the other marks and who's the silversmith, your feedback would be greatly appreciated.

An other interesting find was British officer's artillery button from 1780's I believe it's my 4th one this season.
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A very pleasant surprise was awaiting for me at one of my new spots. Not one but two Trade and Navigation Halfpenny tokens from 1813
If only all of my coppers came out of the ground in that condition.
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An other surprise was George IV 1825 farthing. They are very uncommon where I'm at.
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A few early coppers some of which are gone beyond recognition.
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Thanks for the comments.
 

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I won't be happy with that as an exact match, & they normally are, so I would only put 50-80% confidence on it. However, the date range is spot on which helps it a bit. (& maybe it varied somewhat over the years)

It's pretty normal not to get the full set of marks (which is whats holding back the certainty of an ID), as taking it to the Assayer's to pay the the tax took time & money. Although it was a risky move to do it illegally, like this.

Wouldn't it put the silversmith in trouble since his name is on the item? I understand if it was anonymously made buckle but it's pretty obvious to find the culprit since it's signed. Yes, I agree that the mark is very similar to Wallice but there's no certainty.
 

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I agree it has ben a real hot summer. You have been on a hot streak yourself with all of those items . They are all fantastic finds .My dumb question is why is that knee buckle called a knee buckle?

The weather is crazy. I'm really surprised I still managed to find something. It's my first summer detecting as I usually take a break or very, very occasionally hunt old parks.
 

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Wouldn't it put the silversmith in trouble since his name is on the item? I understand if it was anonymously made buckle but it's pretty obvious to find the culprit since it's signed. Yes, I agree that the mark is very similar to Wallice but there's no certainty.
It's a commercial balance of getting your name out at the same time as avoiding taxes, is that not you US/Can. folks like the most?
 

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Hard to get a solid silver buckle. You don't dig those every day. The button is in wonderful condition. Congrats.
 

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I think it's more of a Canadian made token. It's dated 1816 in the back of it.
Oh ok, wasnt sure. I know there have been a bunch of coins/tokens with a ship design on the reverse.
 

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Oh ok, wasnt sure. I know there have been a bunch of coins/tokens with a ship design on the reverse.

There's a wide variety of early Canadian coins with the ship design. To tell the truth, I haven't paid much attention to what that coin was until you pointed it out. Just assumed it was an other ship coin. Just went to check one of the references and it doesn't seem to be there. Will try to look harder.

Coins and Canada - Pre-confederation commercial tokens - Lower Canada, Upper Canada, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Wellington, Prince Edward Island, Newfoundland
 

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Nice finds as always! I always enjoy seeing your posts. You have some great spots there

Thanks Rubka. I'm constantly in the research of new ones. Sometimes perseverance pays off.
 

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Hard to get a solid silver buckle. You don't dig those every day. The button is in wonderful condition. Congrats.

Thanks.
I really wasn't expecting to find one. Heard many people talk about the rarity of those but never thought I'll get one at one of my sites.
 

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Amazing coins and relics! Love the silver buckle and the button is great, Congrats!
 

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Great finds Anton. I know I’ve told you that already but I haven’t logged on in a while and I’m happy to see a buddy making killer finds!

Seems like Crusader agrees on the marks. The American maker theory kind of went out the door with the obvious re-working.
 

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