Creek Find Identification Help

MOGARDE

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Hi,
I’m hoping for some input. I found this unusual piece in a creek where I have found many arrowheads, Woodland pottery and beads. This caught my eye among all the rough creek gravel. I am torn between natural and man made. It is made of hard stone, granite, I believe. I found it in Mid-Missouri. Thank you for your help. Happy hunting!
 

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Garscale

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I don't have a clue what that is but the rounded surface looks pecked and polished. Neat find.
 

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MOGARDE

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Wow! Thank you guys for your comments and opinions on this piece. I really appreciate it! This is a new one for me. I look forward to researching about Cones.
 

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That black coating could be soot or years of built up oils.
Certainly doesn’t look like it has traveled far.

Do other stones in that creek have similar black coatings?
 

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Interesting find.

It certainly looks like a fine cone, but the base/flat side almost looks natural. I haven't seen that on the typical cones I've seen from Ohio/Kentucky.

It might not be the same relic as the cones from Ohio/Kentucky, but still a relic of some type.
 

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I found this several years ago, and thought it was similar to mogard's. But I think mine may be a pecking stone instead of a cone. The reason the pics ( taken yesterday) are a different color is the "orange" looking ones were taken in the full sun and the others were in the shade. I found it flat side down on the edge of the logging road right on top of the red clay layer. Its heavy. and I have never heard of a cone before, so learned something new again today! IMG_5139.JPG IMG_5140.JPG IMG_5141.JPG IMG_5133.JPG IMG_5137.JPG IMG_5138.JPG
 

PetesPockets55

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Congrats on the find.
Talk about timing.
Just last night I happened to come across cones in a reference book (by Lloyd Schroeder- 2015) I picked up recently.

Is there any consensus here on what was their purpose?
(If I remember correctly the thought in the book is cones may have been used for hides/pelts?
 

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MOGARDE

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Not that I've noticed and I've picked up a lot of rocks. I did find a full grooved tool that I was told was used as a hammer / maul, in the same creek very close to where I found the "cone". The upper picture on the right seems to show similar wear marks (?) as this piece.... IMG_4044.jpg
 

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From what I remember reading about the cones is that cones are fairly small in comparison the to the exposed surface of the maul/club you found.

It kind of seems like the tool would be sized to the item being worked. Maybe small pelts needed small stones for working them. I wonder if any chemical or mineral analysis has been performed on any cones to look for residue.

Complete speculation here but I wonder if cones could have been used to work copper or silver?
 

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Not too familiar with this topic, but would a "cone" be synonymous with one half of a "mortar and pestle"?
 

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Not too familiar with this topic, but would a "cone" be synonymous with one half of a "mortar and pestle"?

I have read that Cone's can be mistaken for the pole end of Celts or Adzes as a broken pole end can take on the look/shape of a Cone.
 

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MOGARDE

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Thank you!!

I read that as well. Also, read that they could have been used for game / gambling pieces or ceremonial. I'm enjoying reading and trying to learn more!
 

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