Detecting and sifting with Ahab8 - 1812 Pewters, Relics, and a crusty LC

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This was hands down the best weekend I ever had detecting, and it had little to do with the finds. I was able to combine a few of my favorite things, hiking, paddling, detecting and hanging out with a good buddy. Somehow the moons aligned between Ahab8's (Abe) and my schedules, so I piggybacked a work trip to CT with a weekend in Maine. I threw together one of my graphite anode electrolysis tanks for Abe and loaded up my car... 10 hours later I was in Abe's driveway. There is a reason Abe finds the incredible stuff he does and it's because he is amazing at all aspects of this hobby, from research, to reading the terrain and locating sites, and using his machine to work the iron. Many times he said we arrived at a site and I see nothing, turn on the machine and there's iron in the middle of no where. I learned a TON from him this weekend about what to look for. I thought the places I went and amount of work I put into recovering stuff was pretty intense, but Abe takes it to a whole new level. Abe's appreciation of the history of his area and the stuff he finds is inspiring and an asset to our hobby. One of my favorite things is to hit a site that has been pounded in the past and dig the horrible signals. Its a lot of work, but its so much more rewarding to unmask a non-ferrous target. With the exception of one spot, the rest had been hit pretty hard.

Check out Abe's Post: http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/t...1653-copper-war-1812-buttons-shoe-buckle.html

The group shot of my weekend hunt with Abe

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Hunt 1: I don't have hot rocks back home where I hunt... I get the occasional piece of coke, but no hot rocks. So I wasn't used to them and the Deus enjoyed them in Maine. After wasting some time on some hot rocks, I came out of the gates with a sweet cufflink! Its been a cufflink year for me, so I was thrilled to see another one turn up. A few musket balls and buttons later we move on and my finds quiet down. We get to a site that Abe has been trying to locate and thinks he finally found it. I turn on my machine and instantly find an 1870 IHP, as I'm explaining to Abe that this might be a more modern site he pulls out an incredible rat tail spoon, followed by a complete pair of cufflinks, an incredible pewter shoe buckle frame.... and then a complete shoe buckle. While I couldn't get my coil over anything good at this site (I zigged when I should have zagged) this was my favorite part of the weekend. Seeing that stuff come out of the dirt is just awesome. Sun was going down so we started home, but stopped by one more site on the way. I pulled a sweet hoe blade and Abe found an INSANE copper (check out his post). We each dug a fragment to the same shoe buckle and Abe remembered he had another piece at home. When we get there, he grabs it and all three pieces completed the frame. So I left that buckle fragment, and a tombac button from his ancestors property rightfully with Abe!

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Hunt 2: We head to a site with War of 1812 history to sift a pit that Abe thinks he found there. He's pulled some incredible buttons from here that you can see in some of his past posts. My oldest military button's are Civil War and I desperately wanted an 1812 button. We get there and I start digging some test pits and quickly verify he has indeed located a very large pit area. I start emptying a section out and pick a flat button, melted lead, brass tack and various other bits from between the iron. Abe comes and joins me and he locates a nice mid tone, which turned out to be a pewter. We got another broken pewter from the pit and decide to take a break from the pit and detect. This place is hammered! After 30 min and a bunch of .22 shell casing (everywhere) I get a whisper and pull out a small brass cuff button. I decided to dig everything in that area and see what happened.... what happened was unbelievable. My next "target" was more of a click or blip on the Deus and one I would not dig unless in a special area. I cut a plug, flip it over and its a SLAMMING mid tone in the bottom of the plug. brush off some dirt and there is a pewter "10" staring at me. Beyond excited I call Abe over to see it. Two minutes later I have a similar signal, flip the plug, same deal.... there is a pewter "5" staring at me. A couple more minutes later a "US" pewter comes out feet away. I insistent that Abe come and join me in this 20x20 foot section. We spend the rest of the day working this area and digging everything. Pewters and brass buttons are turning up all over the place. Abe.... that was awesome man! That was a total blast working that area with you buddy :headbang:

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The group shot of the 1812 Pewters I dug in that small section.

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Abe literally rolled out his red carpet, the t-net famous backdrop for all his finds and he took these incredible photos of the buttons. These buttons look better in the photos than they do in person :laughing7:

1808-11 4th Regt. U.S. Infantry - Cuff Button

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Each of these said "United States" around the border. Together, you can see how the lettering was laid out.

1798-1802 10th Regt. U.S. Infantry AND 1798-1802 5th Regt. U.S. Infantry (All cuff buttons)

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1808-30 U.S. Army General Service - Cuff Buttons

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And the rolled up pewter taco... every pewter from this location has been a marked military, so if I can figure out how to unroll this safely, perhaps there is something salvageable on the inside.

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Hunt 3: This was a quick one and we only lasted for a couple hours. After Hunt 1 and Hunt 2 we were physically exhausted and had no gas in the tank. My favorite from this group is the lead fishing weight.

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Thank you once again Abe! You're going to kill it in that pit and I cant wait to see what you dig up out there. That iron turned out incredible and that was the nicest ax I've seen come out of a tank. When you wear those anodes down, let me know and I'll whip up a new set for you and send them off.
 

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Thanks Steve! I'll never forget digging those buttons. Abe is a really great guy and he took me to some amazing spots.

Here's the setup I made for Abe. I process a lot of iron, so over the years I've been modifying my tank to be more efficient. The biggest changes are 1/2" Graphite Rod as Anodes and Modified C-Clamps to attach the iron. It makes attaching the iron very easy and the anodes are extremely efficient.

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Holy molly that's a cool rig!!! Why haven't I see that before!? Lol

What does T say about your electric bill?

Talk later bud
 

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Holy molly that's a cool rig!!! Why haven't I see that before!? Lol

What does T say about your electric bill?

Talk later bud

That's what he traded for 7 War of 1812 pewters. I'm easily bought lol
 

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Holy molly that's a cool rig!!! Why haven't I see that before!? Lol

What does T say about your electric bill?

Talk later bud

I posted it in the cleaning and preservation section this past winter... but not much traffic over there. She's not surprised at anything I do anymore... but the neighbors probably think I'm cooking up some meth when I have a Coleman stove and a smoking pot of boiling wax in the driveway at 8am on a Saturday .

That's what he traded for 7 War of 1812 pewters. I'm easily bought lol

Ohhh... I keep forgetting about the taco button. So it was 6 marked, 1 rolled taco, 2 unmarked brass. I'll try to unroll that one this weekend. The rusty hoe is in the electrolysis tank now. Ha
 

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I decided to take a crack at unrolling the button taco. I googled the melting temp of pewter and decided I didnt want to go over 300 F. So I decided to use indirect heat. I heated up the flat area on my vice with map gas and pointed my infrared thermometer at the surface.

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Once it was hot enough I turned off the torch and dropped the button onto the metal.

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I worked at it with wooden skewers and flat toothless needle nose pliers

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Slowly it unfolded. I had to reheat the vise a few times to keep it pliable enough and not crack.

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Since every pewter that has been dug here has been marked military, this one almost certainly is. I swear I see a script I in there.

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I finished unfolding it. Its a lot like digging a slick or toasted copper at a nice colonial site... you sort of know what it is, but you just cant say for sure. Oh well... I had to at least try since a rolled up button had my imagination going.

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Pretty sure that was a one of a kind buddy. Bummer bout the condition lol
 

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Pretty sure that was a one of a kind buddy. Bummer bout the condition lol

I almost told you "but its still in better condition than the pewters Abe dug".... but then you sent me the picture of your incredible script I button and it shut me right up :laughing7:
 

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Some seriously good finds for you guys! Congrats! LOL @ the "these buttons look better in person" :laughing9:

LOVE the pewters!!

Cheers,

Buck
 

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Killer. Bending metal with heat is not easy, especially pewter - 200 year old pewter - that came from the ground. I think that button is great and will look good next to the others. Or give that one to Abe;) lol

And I do believe that is a script "I"
 

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