Iron Patch
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I'll stick with my Span-Trac
Iron Patch said:I'll stick with my Span-Trac
Captn_SE said:Here's a little excerpt from a reply I got back from a Minelab dealer when I asked him why in the heck did ML market the SE Pro if they knew that they were going to begin marketing the E-Trac so soon. The SE Pro is an SE with the newer coil....
About the SE, SE pro and E-trac...
when the original SE came out, there were many complaints about the stock coil. Prior to the fairly recent change in how Minelab was run, it was just kind of ignored, figuring people will figure out how to use the machine to the best of their, or the coil's ability.
The plans for the E-Trac included the 11" coil that now comes with the 'Pro, so that coil was in the works and done before the E-TRAC was ready to be released. Meanwhile, as ML USA had a changeover, the new guard was considering the ongoing complaints about the standard SE coil. After it became apparent that the E-TRAC debut was going to be delayed by about 4 months, they decided to change their SE offering, thus creating the SE Pro, with the much better coil. They also offered the coil for sale to SE owners, and many have already taken advantage of that opportunity. It is obvious that, unless you are very label conscious, it would be unnecessary for an original SE owner to buy the new 'Pro.
RootMaster said:That's not to say Explorers are extinct... obviously we are finding stuff. But it just seems like a new window in the ground has opened up with the E-TRAC. Why would you not want to look through this window at what's waiting out there for you?
Iron Patch said:RootMaster said:That's not to say Explorers are extinct... obviously we are finding stuff. But it just seems like a new window in the ground has opened up with the E-TRAC. Why would you not want to look through this window at what's waiting out there for you?
Because I feel the window I am currently looking through is providing the same view.
RootMaster said:That reply from Minelab doesn't really explain away the short time gap between when everyone thought the SE Pro was the new TOP MODEL coin hunter. When a detector gets released, nobody would have expected a newer model so soon thereafter. The ones who got screwed were the ones like me who bought the SE Pro as their first introduction to the Explorer line.
Oh well.. what are you going to do. They have a business to run and this is a hobby, what do we expect?
The E-TRAC does look like it's shaping up to be a really great detector though. See my post here for more details on why you should want one:
http://minelabowners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19653
That's not to say Explorers are extinct... obviously we are finding stuff. But it just seems like a new window in the ground has opened up with the E-TRAC. Why would you not want to look through this window at what's waiting out there for you?
RootMaster said:Iron Patch said:RootMaster said:That's not to say Explorers are extinct... obviously we are finding stuff. But it just seems like a new window in the ground has opened up with the E-TRAC. Why would you not want to look through this window at what's waiting out there for you?
Because I feel the window I am currently looking through is providing the same view.
Obviously we have to wait just a little bit longer until the REAL user reviews start coming in. I'll keep an open mind, but for now like you my wallet is closed.
hollowpointred said:i have heard no claims from Minelab or anyone else for that matter that the E-Track has better depth than any other Explorer. the main differances seem to be with user friendliness, weight, and some added flexibilty (changes to the sensitivity controls). i wouldnt worry about getting an SE instead of an E-Track if i were you. you are looking through the "same window" so to speak.
Iron Patch said:To me user reviews mean very little because we are all so different and I think too many people want to believe their new purchase is better than it really is. For all I know the equipment they were using before could have had a problem and they just doesn't know, and that probably happens more then we realize. I've used this thing for about 7 years now and some of the problems I've had I know someone fairly new would not catch on to.
RootMaster said:That reply from Minelab doesn't really explain away the short time gap between when everyone thought the SE Pro was the new TOP MODEL coin hunter. When a detector gets released, nobody would have expected a newer model so soon thereafter. The ones who got screwed were the ones like me who bought the SE Pro as their first introduction to the Explorer line.
Oh well.. what are you going to do. They have a business to run and this is a hobby, what do we expect?
The E-TRAC does look like it's shaping up to be a really great detector though. See my post here for more details on why you should want one:
http://minelabowners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19653
That's not to say Explorers are extinct... obviously we are finding stuff. But it just seems like a new window in the ground has opened up with the E-TRAC. Why would you not want to look through this window at what's waiting out there for you?
Not only that but think of the down time. My excal has been at the shop for over 3 weeks and they tell me that they won't even have a chance to look at it for at least 2 more weeks. They have 2 techs to fix all the detectors for Canada, US and South America.Last week there were 186 detectors to be fixed before they looked at mine. Just wait till all the bugs start showing up in these new units. Am I knocking Minelab-YOU BET I AM but I still buy their detectors. It is just that I have to have 2 EX2's and 3 Excals to keep me up and running . BTW I also have a New Garrett Infinium LS that is in the shop for the second time in 2 months....Sandman said:It is definitely heavier to even lift. The user interface to connect to a computer does not get any coins out of the ground. Also think about how many times you had a computer problem for one reason or another. Do you need to add more stress to a relaxing hobby?