🥇 BANNER Epic Holey Seated Coin Cache Dug

[Cal_Cobra]

I haven't been getting to hunt as much as I'd like to this year as my wife and I had a baby girl in May. She's a doll, but those of you with kids know the drill

Anyhow, my wife asked me what I wanted for my birthday this month and I told her I wanted to go detecting for a few days at one of our old haunts, and to my amazement she said OK

I was planning to go with TomCA, but he wasn't able to make it and I ended up going solo. This is a remote Spanish outpost site that we researched years ago. Tom's less crazy about it then I am, but I like the history around it and it's continued to produce interesting finds. It's a relaxing, beautiful place to detect, that just invokes early western frontier history, and almost every relic or coin you dig is dripping with age and history (for our neck of the woods that is).

Anyhow, I had planned to use my Multi Kruzer with a new 7" concentric coil to work in the iron, but due to a headphone issue, I had to switch over to my Equinox 800. Boy am I glad I did, I made one of my best finds to date! A seated coin cache that I will never forget digging, and not just a seated coin cache, but a coin cache/spill with a hole mystery Was it Indian trade jewelry?

Here's they are in all their glory:



I dug several nice relics, and was able to capture the coin cache dug live:




HH,
Cal

 

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[NJKLAGT]

Congratulations! Wow, what an interesting find. I wonder why some of them have 2 holes rather than 1...

 

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[Davers]

Thanks!

Their seated dimes and half-dimes:

Seated half-dimes:

1857
1858 O
1872

Seated dimes:

1842
1843
1853
1869
1872
1875 CC
1876
1877
1882

Funny none has an 'S' Mint Mark
Other than the 'CC' those dimes def came from E of the Mississippi & that's a clue imo .
Ultra Cool Banner Find.
Davers

 

[the_mad_cladder]

So cool! Awesome siteand a well deserved banner! I’ll bet there is more too.

 

[BLK HOLE]

Man what a cool save! Congrats on the Banner

 

[Tom_in_CA]

... What about the Rest of The relics ?...

The entire portfolio of our combined curiosities from this site, is worthy of a museum cabinet display. Reales, buttons, coins, curiosities, etc..... Amazing how the "private sector" sometimes has more info/eye-candy than the archie-sector.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Funny none has an 'S' Mint Mark ...

Aaaahh, yes: Good observation. It was found in CA, after all. Is it too late to retract my banner vote ? haha

Seriously now: There' another oddity you can add to your effort to analyze this find !!

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Well Mr. Cal-Cobra: I see you've made the coveted "banner" Congrats. That makes us even now (4 to 4). Hmmmm, ok ... does this mean your head is so big you can't fit through doors now ? Does this mean you can now retire to the sidelines as a sportscaster media person ??

 

[eyemustdigtreasure]

Trade jewelry, is a very good interpretation!
Super Find! What an awesome thing to remember digging!
Glad you recorded the dig!

 

[Relicific]

Double congrats

 

[Silvermonkey]

I really enjoyed your video. What a great find!!! I've never come across a cache of coins, so I can't quite imagine how pumped up you were ( I'm guessing off the scale). Congratulations!!!!!

 

[tnt-hunter]

That find is so awesome. It just blows my mind. Way to go and we’ll deserved banner.

To my way of thinking it could have been jewelry, but could it also be that someone put their coins on a string to keep from looseing them? Maybe he didn’t have a pouch or pocket to put them in so he wore them. Just a thought.

 

[toasted]

That find is so awesome. It just blows my mind. Way to go and we’ll deserved banner.

To my way of thinking it could have been jewelry, but could it also be that someone put their coins on a string to keep from looseing them? Maybe he didn’t have a pouch or pocket to put them in so he wore them. Just a thought.

All the holed silvers Ive seen and found were holed through the side, not on center. Jewelry or trade silver imo. I have found some large coppers with holes in the center but I think they were used as washers or hammered above doorways for good luck Ive also heard

 

[ecmjamsit]

Mystery solved...

Used as washers to keep a cabin warmer. Nail a animal hide to the wall to keep the wind out. I have seen this in some old cabins here in Colorado with this kind of interior.

 

[creskol]

According to the inflation calculator, $1.10 in 1882 = $27.18 in 2018..That would make them expensive nail washers.

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

The square holes are from using a nail to punch the hole.Take a look at a modern nail,the point is square.

I should have clarified, the coins with the 'round holes' were likely made with a 'round-headed' nail which is a more 'modern design' of nail. Consequently, the coins with the square-hole were likely holed earlier with a 'square-nail'. Of course, this is subject to debate because some of the coins you found look to have also served as buttons... all be it very expensive buttons for the time period.

Most everyone who detects older sites knows that handmade nails are older than machine made nails. At the beginning of the 19th century, most square nails were made entirely by hand at the forge. A nail cutting machine designed in the 1790s cut the nail's shank and reduced hand labor to only forming the head of the nail. At the time of their introduction, these machine cut nails were sometimes referred to as "cold nails" because they were not made at the forge. These machine/handmade nails were used up to the end of the 19th century. By the 1890s, the entire nail was completely machine formed producing the rounded shank or round-head wire nail that continues in use today.

Whatever your true coin story is we will likely never know, congratulations once again on your finds!

Dave

 

[Cal_Cobra]

All the holed silvers Ive seen and found were holed through the side, not on center. Jewelry or trade silver imo. I have found some large coppers with holes in the center but I think they were used as washers or hammered above doorways for good luck Ive also heard

Given the context and history of the site, and that we've found Indian trade silver items in this area, I think I 100% agree that these were used as Indian jewelry or trade silver items, not washers. There's no evidence of them being used as I've found holed coins used as washers and you can see whatever was nailed, screwed to it left a round wear mark.

Next time I'm able to get to this site, I'll definitely look for more and maybe some clues will surface to help solve this mystery Perhaps if the ground is dryer on the next trip, it would be worth screening the patch of dirt these coins came from, who knows what else ended up there after whatever burned down deposited all these into the earth.

GL&HH,
Cal

 

[lenmac65]

Great find. Very interesting. Congrats.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

.... it would be worth screening the patch of dirt these coins came from,...

I vote for pulling out those sagebrushes (or bring your weedwacker) that were directly adjacent to your hot-spot. I know you said you thrust your coil in as far as it would go under the adjacent bushes. But they shouldn't be too hard to pull out, and check better, eh ?

 

[Dreams]

You guys have some great sites to hunt!

 

[burlbark]

Given the context and history of the site, and that we've found Indian trade silver items in this area, I think I 100% agree that these were used as Indian jewelry or trade silver items, not washers. There's no evidence of them being used as I've found holed coins used as washers and you can see whatever was nailed, screwed to it left a round wear mark.

Next time I'm able to get to this site, I'll definitely look for more and maybe some clues will surface to help solve this mystery Perhaps if the ground is dryer on the next trip, it would be worth screening the patch of dirt these coins came from, who knows what else ended up there after whatever burned down deposited all these into the earth.

GL&HH,
Cal

Congratulations... I am up in Fort Bragg, Ca. You need to buy a copy of "Two Peoples One Place". Its a book on the history of Native people in Humbolt County. There is an example of an intact necklace within it with holed seated coins and beads, its actually located in the Clarke Museum.