Experts: Oil spill could affect Space Coast

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I wouldn't get my panties in a wad just yet. My coast and waterways will be the sponge for this one. The nearest lobe of the spill is only 80 miles out from our dive spots and beaches with a strong southerly flow expected for the next 5-6 days. :help:

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For immediate release: April 29, 2010

FWC assists with oil spill response

The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission (FWC) heard a report on the Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico from Gil McRae, director of the FWC's Fish and Wildlife Research Institute on Thursday.

"The FWC has a long history of working with our partners in preparing a response to oil spills," McRae said. "The FWC has helped prepare the Coast Guard's area contingency plan, which guides response efforts."

FWC staff has been deployed to Pensacola and Mobile, Ala., to assist with spill-tracking, and law enforcement stands ready to deploy.

"The slick is growing, and its movements depend on the currents and the winds," McRae said. "We're preparing for the worst and hoping it won't get to that point."

McRae indicated that no reports of ill effects on wildlife have been substantiated by the FWC, but based on current reports on the size of the spill, this could be a "prolonged event," McRae said.

The FWC is working with NOAA and the Coast Guard and taking direction in Florida from the lead agency, the Department of Environmental Protection.

"I commend Gov. (Charlie) Crist for his proactive action on this spill. This accident may have serious impacts on the areas where our fish and wildlife spawn, whether the oil reaches our shores or not, and we are very concerned," said FWC Chairman Rodney Barreto. "We stand ready to do whatever we need to do to protect the resources of Florida."

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To view this press release online visit http://myfwc.com/NEWSROOM/10/statewide/News_10_X_OilSpill1.htm
 

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gulf side going to get it for sure --shrimping and seafood harvest affected without a doubt --this will have long term effects -- pray they can stop this nightmare soon
 

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Both the Oil and the Dispersant will cause harm and toxicity. So far they haven't mentioned the effects of the chemicals on beachgoers, who will get these chemicals on their skin, in their eyes, nose, mouth, in cuts...

Here is the latest news item on the oil clean-up.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2010/05/01/nr.ott.oil.debate.cnn?hpt=C2

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gulf side going to get it for sure --shrimping and seafood harvest affected without a doubt --this will have long term effects -- pray they can stop this nightmare soon
 

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Beach goers should use commom sense,theres enough about the nasty water on the news.Degreaser is more toxic than the crude oil.Degreaser will remove layers of skin,not to mention what it would do to your eyeballs,worse if it gets ingested for humans or ocean critters.Its time for a class action lawsuit with BP oil for destroying the ocean and all life in it.
 

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I really believe BP is trying to save this oil head... They are acting like saving it is more important than actually stopping the leak. I use the term "leak" loosly because its gushing oil out at 200,000 gallons per day. The government should have taken this task over by now and send BP the bill.

Just my .02

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its real ugly! Watching them report 1000 bls a day and sitting in that slick, It didnt take much imagination to realize a factor of 10 was in order

 

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Gulf Oil Spill, The Untold Story!

Little known facts!

1. Deepwater Horizon oil platform owned by the World’s largest offshore drilling contractor Transocean that was built and financed by South Korea’s Hyundai Heavy Industries Co. Ltd.

2. The North Korean “cargo vessel” Dai Hong Dan believed to be staffed by 17th Sniper Corps “suicide” troops left Cuba’s Empresa Terminales Mambisas de La Habana (Port of Havana) on April 18th, whereupon it “severely deviated” from its intended course for Venezuela’s Puerto Cabello, bringing it to within 209 kilometers (130 miles) of the Deepwater Horizon oil platform which was located 80 kilometers (50 miles) off the coast of the US State of Louisiana where it launched an SSC Sang-o Class Mini Submarine (Yugo class) estimated to have an operational range of 321 kilometers (200 miles).

3. On the night of April 20th the North Korean Mini Submarine manned by these “suicidal” 17th Sniper Corps soldiers attacked the Deepwater Horizon with what are believed to be 2 incendiary torpedoes causing a massive explosion and resulting in 11 workers on this giant oil rig being killed outright. Barely 48 hours later, on April 22nd , this North Korean Mini Submarine committed its final atrocity by exploding itself directly beneath the Deepwater Horizon causing this $1 Billion oil rig to sink beneath the seas and marking 2010’s celebration of Earth Day with one of the largest environmental catastrophes our World has ever seen.

4. Most important to understand about this latest attack by North Korea against its South Korean enemy is that under the existing “laws of war” it was a permissible action as they remain in a state of war against each other due to South Korea’s refusal to sign the 1953 Armistice ending the Korean War.

5. Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...t-1953947.html

S.Korean warship 'sunk by torpedo blast'
Sunday, 25 April 2010
A torpedo was the likely cause of an explosion that sank a warship near the tense border with North Korea last month, a South Korean minister said today.

Defence minister Kim Tae-young told reporters he believes "the bubble jet effect caused by a heavy torpedo is the most likely" cause of the incident.

The Cheonan was on a routine patrol on March 26 when the unexplained explosion split it in two in one of South Korea's worst naval disasters. At least 40 sailors died.

Seoul has not directly blamed North Korea for the blast but suspicion remains given the country's history of provocation and attacks on the South.

6. Obama has ordered military SWAT teams to protect other oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico from any further attack, and further ordered that all drilling in the Gulf of Mexico be immediately stopped.

7. Japanese military sources are stating that North Korea is preparing for new launches of its 1,300 kilometer (807 miles) intermediate range ballistic “Rodong” missile which Russian Space Forces experts state is able to “deploy and detonate” an atomic electromagnetic pulse (EMP) device.

8. President Obama has ordered all United Nations Forces on the Korean Peninsula into “immediate stand-down” over fears South Korea will retaliate against the North for the deadly missile attack on one of its ships that has left an estimated 46 of its Naval Forces dead and warned liable to start a nuclear weapons exchange should tensions escalate further.

9. Source: http://www.debka.com/article/8747/
US Gulf units may not fire on Iranian military without White House say-so. The US Fifth fleet and USS Eisenhower refrained from shooting an Iranian spy plane collecting intelligence from the American carrier on April 21 because they are under orders not to respond to hostile Iranian acts without permission direct from Washington. Gulf governments fear US military passivity will encourage Tehran to be bolder and more provocative, emulating Pyongyang which got away scot-free with sinking a South Korean vessel.

The US Fifth Fleet and US aircraft carrier USS Eisenhower in the Gulf of Oman were not allowed to shoot at an Iranian Fokker F27 aircraft which on April 21 hovered for 20 minutes 900 meters over the carrier and no more than 250 meters away, even though they saw its flight crew gathering intelligence on the Eisenhower and its warship escorts.

DEBKA-Net-Weekly's military sources report that the US Persian Gulf command went public on the incident on April 28, a whole week later, only after Gulf military circles, amazed at the American naval and air units' passivity in the face of hostile surveillance, threatened to break the story to local media.

This striking restraint indicates that the US Gulf and Arabian fleets are under orders to take no action - certainly not to open fire - against Iranian naval or air units, with first obtaining permission directly from Washington.
Military, naval and aviation sources told DEBKA-Net-Weekly that the Iranian spy plane was 10 second away from flying directly over the Eisenhower and could easily have been shot down.
To try and explain this incident away, US naval sources Wednesday, April 28, claimed the Iranian plane was unarmed and its encounter with the US carrier was not of a threatening nature, although irregular.
Admiral Gary Roughead, Chief of Naval Operations, tried to play down the importance of the incident by saying: "The Iranians (pilots) were not provocative or threatening. As long as they are professional and not threatening or reckless, it's international space."

But officials of the Gulf emirate navies think otherwise. They say it was the first time that an Iranian spy plane ventured so close to an American aircraft carrier and the US non-response will encourage Tehran to go for bolder and more provocative actions.
Of late, Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states, especially Oman and the United Arab Emirates, have become extra-sensitive of late to the raised US response threshold to threatening moves by Iran, after witnessing the sinking of a South Korean warship and the handling of the case by Washington.
The South Korean Cheonan, a 1,200-ton corvette, was sunk on March 26, apparently by a naval mine that was planted by the North Korean navy in the Baengnyeong Island area, whose sovereignty is in dispute between Seoul and Pyongyang. Right after the incident, in which 46 South Korean sailors were lost, the Obama administration hastened to issue a statement denying evidence of North Korean involvement - even though South Korean intelligence demonstrated that a North Korean mine, or midget submarine of a type of in the possession of the Iranian Navy, was responsible for sinking the corvette.
Undersecretary of State James Steinberg, who deals with Iranian affairs, said on March 29 that he had heard nothing to implicate any other country in the tragedy.

This was taken in Gulf capitals to show the Obama administration was ready to lean backwards to avoid military action against North Korea - even on the part of the injured party, South Korea. They see a close correlation between the provocative tactics employed by Pyongyang and Tehran, whose nuclear and missile programs are likewise coordinated. These Gulf sources, talking to debkafile, wondered out loud if the United States would also turn a blind eye to an Iranian attack that cause the sinking of a Saudi, UAE or Israeli ship sailing in the Gulf.

And another parallel is worth noting: Just as the two Koreas are at odds over the Baengnyeong Islands, so too the UAE claims the owners of three islands near the Straits of Hormuz – Greater Tunb, Lesser Tunb and Abu Musa - accusing Tehran of seizing them by force for the use of Revolutionary Guard naval bases.
DEBKA-Net-Weekly's military sources say that the Iranian spy plane that flew over the USS Eisenhower on April 21 apparently took off from an Iranian military airfield on the island of Abu Musa.

Far from giving up their claim to the three islands, on April 20, UAE Foreign Minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed Al Nahayan said there is no difference between the Israeli occupation of the Golan Heights, South Lebanon, the West Bank and Gaza, and Iranian occupation of these islands.

It appears to the rest of the world, that allies Nth Korea and Iran are using the same right that the USA claims - to act pre -emptively where their interests are threatened.

Pretty hard to defend yourselves when the Kenyan village idiot has effectively tied the hands of your military.

Cheers
 

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Here is more background on the Horizon oil rig.

Transocean Website:

http://www.deepwater.com/fw/main/Home-1.html

2 of the victims (or missing) on the oil rig worked for SWACO

Gordon Jones (M-I SWACO)
Blair Manuel (M-I SWACO)

http://www.miswaco.com/

About SWACO
http://www.miswaco.com/About M-I SWACO/

SWACO Newsletter:
http://www.miswaco.com/Docs/m_v13_i1/index.html

World Activities SWACO:

http://www.miswaco.com/Newsroom/Newsletter/documents/mis038399.pdf


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Lucky Eddie said:
Gulf Oil Spill, The Untold Story!

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May 4, 2010

The potential arrival of oil from the Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico is likely to pose challenges for Florida's coastal wildlife. The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission (FWC) is working closely with the Florida Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) and the Joint Information Center, which includes the U.S. Coast Guard and National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration as well as other federal and state agencies to monitor potential impacts of the oil spill on Florida.

The FWC is conducting pre-impact wildlife assessments, which include taking water samples and testing for contamination in sediments, fish and shellfish along Florida's coastline and into the Gulf of Mexico. The FWC also is evaluating critical habitat, shorebird and sea turtle nesting areas and other wildlife. These assessments will assist wildlife managers to determine potential impacts.

The FWC advises that coastal wildlife will be vulnerable to impacts from oil reaching beaches. Shorebirds and seabirds are in the middle of their nesting season, making them extremely vulnerable to disturbance. Nesting season for sea turtles is just beginning. Efforts to remove trash from the beaches before the oil arrives could be disruptive to nesting animals, and the FWC urges the public to follow specific guidelines.

The FWC has set up a Web page outlining appropriate actions to protect nesting shorebirds, sea birds and other vulnerable wildlife on Florida's beaches. The FWC is providing information to the Emergency Operations Center and DEP about wildlife areas that may be particularly vulnerable to impacts from oil spills. In addition the FWC has developed best management practices for avoiding impacts to Florida's endangered and threatened species.

The FWC and its partners have posted signs on many, but not all shorebird nesting areas. If birds in the area are acting agitated, calling or swooping at people, there is a good possibility it is a nesting area. The FWC asks the public and oil spill responders to retreat the way they approached and leave the nesting area.

Anyone involved in volunteer efforts to clear trash from the beaches should be particularly careful. Please keep the following in mind:

* Avoid working in areas where shorebirds are nesting; never enter or approach a posted shorebird area.
* When near nesting areas, stay below the high tide (wrack) line. Shorebirds nest on the open beach above this line. Nests are scrapes in the sand and the eggs are small and camouflaged. They easily can be crushed by pedestrians and vehicles.
* Remove only manmade trash. Seaweed and other natural debris are critical to shorebirds.
* Even though the wrack line is important to wildlife, if it becomes oiled it then becomes a death trap for birds and other wildlife and makes removal of oil from the beach more difficult. Timing for removal of beach wrack in oil spill response is critical. It should be left on the beach in areas of active nesting as long as possible but removed immediately prior to beaches becoming oiled. In areas distant from active nesting, cleanup of wrack and other natural debris can be performed to better facilitate future oil removal.
* On some Panhandle beaches, the FWC has installed short, white, PVC tubes in the dunes to track endangered beach mice, and on Perdido Key, small aluminum boxes also are being used. This important equipment should not be removed from the beach.
* Also, sea turtle nests are marked with stakes and orange tape - do not remove these items because they help protect the nests from disturbances.
* Do not place litter above the tide line; this can also interfere or cause harm to nesting birds.
* Do not use equipment such as rakes, shovels or tractors.
* Do not bring dogs onto the beach. Dogs, even when leashed, are very threatening to birds and cause them to panic.

Please report any nest disturbances to 888-404-FWCC (3922). To report sightings of oiled wildlife, call 866-557-1401.

To view this press release online visit http://myfwc.com/NEWSROOM/10/statewide/News_10_X_OilSpill2.htm


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Lucky Eddy,

Where did you get the info in the first three paragraphs. I checked the first link but couldn't find it there.
 

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Sphillips,

Where did I get the info in my first 3 paragraphs? ???

If I tell you this - then I have no choice but to kill you - you understand? :laughing9:

Let us say I got it the same place from my Russian Comrades in the Kremlin, as I go this latest info OK?

May 3, 2010

US Goes To “COCKED PISTOL” (loaded gun 33 & a half?) Alert Status Over Korean War Fears


Russian Defense Ministry reports circulating in the Kremlin this evening are warning that that the United States has ordered 3 of its aircraft carrier battle groups belonging to its Northern Pacific Third Fleet Naval forces to “COCKED PISTOL” alert status over growing war fears originating on the Korean Peninsula.

The “COCKED PISTOL” alert status used by the US Defense Department, these reports state, is the “exercise” term that coincides with the Americans Defense Condition (DEFCON) 1 which puts their forces on “maximum readiness” and is reserved for an imminent or ongoing attack on US armed forces or US territory by a foreign military power.

Raising the fears of the Americans, these reports continue, was South Korean President Lee Myung-bak calling for an emergency meeting of all of his military commanders, and which we can read as confirmed by South Korea’s JoongAng Daily News Service:

“For the first time in the 62-year history of Korea’s military, a president will chair an emergency meeting of top commanders to discuss the national security crisis prompted by the sinking of the Navy warship Cheonan near the inter-Korean border.

About 150 commanders from the Army, Navy and Air Force will attend the meeting with President Lee Myung-bak tomorrow, according to Blue House spokesman Park Sun-kyoo.”

Important to note about these events is that by President Lee’s action in calling this unprecedented meeting it is the first time since the Korean War stalemate began in 1953 that South Korea has begun military operations outside of the UN-US Forces Command, and which according to the International laws of war they are able to do as unlike the United States, and the other UN Forces involved in this conflict, the South Koreans refused to sign the armistice allowing them free reign to begin retaliatory attacks against the North should they choose this course of action.

President Lee, these reports continue, is described as being “livid” over what he believes has been China’s betrayal after his meeting with Chinese Communist leader Hu Jintao two days ago where he had received “assurances” they would “contain” their North Korean ally only to have the Communists receive North Korea’s enigmatic dictator Kim Jong-Il earlier today on a state visit.

To the North Korean actions precipitating this crisis we had previously written about in our March 28th report “Obama Orders ‘Immediate Stand-down’ After Deadly North Korean Attack” and May 1st report “US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig” wherein we detailed North Korea’s deadly attacks upon the South Korean warship Cheonan and the sinking of the South Korean industrial giant Hyundai Heavy Industries $1 Billion oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico operated by the World’s largest offshore drilling contractor Transocean under contract to British Petroleum (BP).

Though not being reported by American propaganda media organs, North Korea’s destruction of Hyundai’s Deepwater Horizon oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico puts all liability for the catastrophic damages now occurring squarely upon the South Korean economy as with all oil exploration projects of this magnitude, especially in hurricane/cyclone zones, no insurer, or re-insurer, in the World is able to insure them and which leaves this mammoth financial burden to fall upon those industrial Nations able to afford to do so, like South Korea.

Unfortunately for South Korea, and as the Deepwater Horizon was attack and sunk in American territorial waters, US President Obama has refused to call it an “act of war”, which he should have done to negate any liability for the catastrophic damage now occurring falling upon BP, Transocean or Hyundai, all of whom are ultimately ‘self insured’ by the South Korean people.

Interesting to note in these reports are Russian Military Analysts stating that China’s Communist leaders may, in fact, be encouraging open warfare on the Korean Peninsula as a “deliberate move” to further accelerate the economic (and by extension infrastructure) destruction of both South Korea and the United States which would then “catapult” China to forefront of Global economic and industrial power.

Bolstering this view is the growing fear in China of an open trade war with the United States which China's commerce minister Chen Deming had already warned the Americans “will suffer the most”. Credit Suisse Group AG economist Dong Tao has further warned that China is closer to a trade war with the US than any time in the last five years.

The Americans having failed to listen to China’s growing trade war concerns they were met earlier today on this “eve of war” with one of the most scathing editorials appearing in China’s Communist governments official Xinhuanet News Service titled “Going toe to toe with the bully” and which, in part, says:

“Recently, the United States postponed its expected branding of China as a currency manipulator for selling cheap goods to US consumers at fixed rates. But the US has threatened China with trade sanctions, which will likely set off a trade war.

US mercantilists and their political, academic and media allies are decrying China's surpluses and claiming that the yuan is undervalued.

So, how does China succeed from being victimized by the US, unlike other Asian economies before it? How does it deal with the thuggish return of the 800-pound economic gorilla? By not caving in.

If China caves in now to the current round of bashing from the US, it will create expectations and pressure on China to cave in again and again in the future. This will lead to unending pressure on the currency and ultimately economic dilemmas.

Notwithstanding its well-known fiscal problems, the US economy is the juggernaut of production and innovation in the history of mankind. It is a pity that every time this economic juggernaut encounters successful international competition in manufacturing, it resorts to bullying against its own consumers' welfare and that of the working poor worldwide.

Therefore, the US too needs to look inward. It has to rein in those special interest groups; it has to reform its tax system to encourage instead of discourage savings; it has to rationalize its Social Security and Medicare systems, which also discourage personal savings. Finally, it has to stop bashing and bullying successful international competitors. The world is catching on. After Japan and China, who will be next? India? Enough is enough.”

Unfortunately for the American people the dire truth of these things is, and as always, being kept from them by their media and political elite classes who fear the revolt of their people should the reality of what has been done to them is ever discovered.

The same cannot be said, however, about one of America’s longest and most powerful allies Taiwan, whose President, in seeing the “clouds of war” gathering, once again, over Asia, announced this morning that his Nation “will never ask the United States to help fight a war”, and which really means, “don’t ask us to help you fight your wars either.”

During the last century when our World, like today, stood on the brink of war amidst a shattered Global economy, perhaps the wisest man alive, Albert Einstein, uttered these words:

“He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice.”

Sadly for our World today, hardly anyone alive remembers this.

This came from the self proclaimed "World's Largest English Language News Service with Over 500 Articles Updated Daily". :wink:

All very interesting eh? :laughing7:

Ahh them Ruskies - you have to hand it to them, when it comes to spinning a ripping good yarn! Never spoil a good story for wants of the facts! :thumbsup:
 

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Eddy, I am hoping you are smart enopugh not to believe everything you read on Sorcha Faals website: whatdoesitmean.com...

Hardly someone you should quote as "fact" without some backup. But, an interesting conspiracy theory though, would make a good movie!

Lucky Eddie said:
Sphillips,

Where did I get the info in my first 3 paragraphs? ???

If I tell you this - then I have no choice but to kill you - you understand? :laughing9:

Let us say I got it the same place from my Russian Comrades in the Kremlin, as I go this latest info OK?

May 3, 2010

US Goes To “COCKED PISTOL” (loaded gun 33 & a half?) Alert Status Over Korean War Fears


Russian Defense Ministry reports circulating in the Kremlin this evening are warning that that the United States has ordered 3 of its aircraft carrier battle groups belonging to its Northern Pacific Third Fleet Naval forces to “COCKED PISTOL” alert status over growing war fears originating on the Korean Peninsula.

The “COCKED PISTOL” alert status used by the US Defense Department, these reports state, is the “exercise” term that coincides with the Americans Defense Condition (DEFCON) 1 which puts their forces on “maximum readiness” and is reserved for an imminent or ongoing attack on US armed forces or US territory by a foreign military power.

Raising the fears of the Americans, these reports continue, was South Korean President Lee Myung-bak calling for an emergency meeting of all of his military commanders, and which we can read as confirmed by South Korea’s JoongAng Daily News Service:

“For the first time in the 62-year history of Korea’s military, a president will chair an emergency meeting of top commanders to discuss the national security crisis prompted by the sinking of the Navy warship Cheonan near the inter-Korean border.

About 150 commanders from the Army, Navy and Air Force will attend the meeting with President Lee Myung-bak tomorrow, according to Blue House spokesman Park Sun-kyoo.”

Important to note about these events is that by President Lee’s action in calling this unprecedented meeting it is the first time since the Korean War stalemate began in 1953 that South Korea has begun military operations outside of the UN-US Forces Command, and which according to the International laws of war they are able to do as unlike the United States, and the other UN Forces involved in this conflict, the South Koreans refused to sign the armistice allowing them free reign to begin retaliatory attacks against the North should they choose this course of action.

President Lee, these reports continue, is described as being “livid” over what he believes has been China’s betrayal after his meeting with Chinese Communist leader Hu Jintao two days ago where he had received “assurances” they would “contain” their North Korean ally only to have the Communists receive North Korea’s enigmatic dictator Kim Jong-Il earlier today on a state visit.

To the North Korean actions precipitating this crisis we had previously written about in our March 28th report “Obama Orders ‘Immediate Stand-down’ After Deadly North Korean Attack” and May 1st report “US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig” wherein we detailed North Korea’s deadly attacks upon the South Korean warship Cheonan and the sinking of the South Korean industrial giant Hyundai Heavy Industries $1 Billion oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico operated by the World’s largest offshore drilling contractor Transocean under contract to British Petroleum (BP).

Though not being reported by American propaganda media organs, North Korea’s destruction of Hyundai’s Deepwater Horizon oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico puts all liability for the catastrophic damages now occurring squarely upon the South Korean economy as with all oil exploration projects of this magnitude, especially in hurricane/cyclone zones, no insurer, or re-insurer, in the World is able to insure them and which leaves this mammoth financial burden to fall upon those industrial Nations able to afford to do so, like South Korea.

Unfortunately for South Korea, and as the Deepwater Horizon was attack and sunk in American territorial waters, US President Obama has refused to call it an “act of war”, which he should have done to negate any liability for the catastrophic damage now occurring falling upon BP, Transocean or Hyundai, all of whom are ultimately ‘self insured’ by the South Korean people.

Interesting to note in these reports are Russian Military Analysts stating that China’s Communist leaders may, in fact, be encouraging open warfare on the Korean Peninsula as a “deliberate move” to further accelerate the economic (and by extension infrastructure) destruction of both South Korea and the United States which would then “catapult” China to forefront of Global economic and industrial power.

Bolstering this view is the growing fear in China of an open trade war with the United States which China's commerce minister Chen Deming had already warned the Americans “will suffer the most”. Credit Suisse Group AG economist Dong Tao has further warned that China is closer to a trade war with the US than any time in the last five years.

The Americans having failed to listen to China’s growing trade war concerns they were met earlier today on this “eve of war” with one of the most scathing editorials appearing in China’s Communist governments official Xinhuanet News Service titled “Going toe to toe with the bully” and which, in part, says:

“Recently, the United States postponed its expected branding of China as a currency manipulator for selling cheap goods to US consumers at fixed rates. But the US has threatened China with trade sanctions, which will likely set off a trade war.

US mercantilists and their political, academic and media allies are decrying China's surpluses and claiming that the yuan is undervalued.

So, how does China succeed from being victimized by the US, unlike other Asian economies before it? How does it deal with the thuggish return of the 800-pound economic gorilla? By not caving in.

If China caves in now to the current round of bashing from the US, it will create expectations and pressure on China to cave in again and again in the future. This will lead to unending pressure on the currency and ultimately economic dilemmas.

Notwithstanding its well-known fiscal problems, the US economy is the juggernaut of production and innovation in the history of mankind. It is a pity that every time this economic juggernaut encounters successful international competition in manufacturing, it resorts to bullying against its own consumers' welfare and that of the working poor worldwide.

Therefore, the US too needs to look inward. It has to rein in those special interest groups; it has to reform its tax system to encourage instead of discourage savings; it has to rationalize its Social Security and Medicare systems, which also discourage personal savings. Finally, it has to stop bashing and bullying successful international competitors. The world is catching on. After Japan and China, who will be next? India? Enough is enough.”

Unfortunately for the American people the dire truth of these things is, and as always, being kept from them by their media and political elite classes who fear the revolt of their people should the reality of what has been done to them is ever discovered.

The same cannot be said, however, about one of America’s longest and most powerful allies Taiwan, whose President, in seeing the “clouds of war” gathering, once again, over Asia, announced this morning that his Nation “will never ask the United States to help fight a war”, and which really means, “don’t ask us to help you fight your wars either.”

During the last century when our World, like today, stood on the brink of war amidst a shattered Global economy, perhaps the wisest man alive, Albert Einstein, uttered these words:

“He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would suffice.”

Sadly for our World today, hardly anyone alive remembers this.

This came from the self proclaimed "World's Largest English Language News Service with Over 500 Articles Updated Daily". :wink:

All very interesting eh? :laughing7:

Ahh them Ruskies - you have to hand it to them, when it comes to spinning a ripping good yarn! Never spoil a good story for wants of the facts! :thumbsup:
 

Lucky Eddie

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We shouldn't believe Sorcha Faal? ??? ???

gee - that's probably good advice, ya think? :wink:

Can't trust them wascally Russians at the Kremlin, specially when they are named David Booth and their website ISP traces to the same net backbone in Langley Virginia as the see eye eh's website hangs off eh? :wink: :icon_thumright:

Ya jus never know who's telling the truth and who's telling the Porkie Pies these days - do you?

It reminds me of the old cartoons in MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) magazine (Afred e Neuman) of Spy V's Spy! :laughing9:

Cheers
 

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