Finest Gorget I have seen

pointdlr

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This gorget was originally collected by Dr. Gordon Meuser. He is almost universally considered the greatest "problematical" collector of all time. Many will recognize this artifact from the large number of times it has been published in magazines and books. The gorget itself can be classed as a Hopewell indented form, and is made from highly exotic purple and green banded slate. It might be considered ferrougness(spelling) slate. The piece resides in Bob Converse's collection, and I was lucky enough to hold it and picture it with my camera.
Regards,
Jon Dickinson.
 

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SoIll

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That is something else.
I wonder why they cut on it?
I guess that's why it's a problematical.
 

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Wow beautiful piece ,amazing thanks for showing us... :hello2:
 

jeff a

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bob is very helpful and always welcomes me to come over and talk,when ever im over i cant seem to let go of the pipestone hopewell figure he has,jon did you get to see his big plano lances?
 

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That's old school identification. Before digital. Some people still do not get it.
Nice Gorget and material.
 

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Beautiful gorget.

Writing on pieces may not sound great, but it is about the best way to ensure that at least some information makes it down to the next generation of collectors. When it's done properly it doesn't damage the relic, it doesn't detract from the beauty, and it'll come off with a bit of effort. Unfortunately, most artifact collections will be "transitioned" (sold, donated, inherited, boxed and forgotten, thrown away, etc.) when we are no longer able to pass on that information personally and quite often the people doing the transitioning (wife, kids, lawyer, parents, etc.) aren't collectors and won't recognize the catalog as anything more than just another book or paper. (And that's where a complicated numeric system just become graffiti on a relic.)

A great example of this info can be seen in Ohio Slate Types (where many of us have seen this gorget.) Those little distribuition maps by county in Ohio are still about the most in depth research that has been done for detailing where the different types of "problematicals" have been found. There were many more pieces in the collections that Bob had access to that could have been added to the study but those pieces didn't have any location information.
 

jeff a

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i use a fine tip marker on all my artifacts, i mark county and state on all of them ,its the best way to make sure the info doesnt get lost and if someone later on doesnt like it they can take it off with alittle nail polish remover
 

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Hi Jon,

I'm not sure if I ever showed this one to you; it is along the same lines as Bob's, but not nearly as nice. It was found on the site of a destroyed Hopewell mound in Ottawa County, Ohio.

Sincerely,
John Rummel
 

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jeff a

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hey john ,good to see you on here,ive talked to you at the aso meetings a few times, how about some pics of the artifacts you have from the effigy mound in north benton
jeff
 

Hopewell

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Hi Jeff,

No problem. I will take some pictures of the pieces and post them on here.

Sincerely,
John
 

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Nice piece. That is my favorite as well, but if your not from Ohio nobody knows. It's worth 25,000 dollars to some fool hardy soul.
 

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