Hello. I would like to know if anybody has any information on this drawing that I have. It is a real drawing and not a print.

[Southpaw1232]

 

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[Bernitup]

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It appears to be by Salvador Dali….and if indeed real, probably has some value to it. Name or title of the piece, I have no idea, but the signature is quite clear.

 

[Southpaw1232]

It appears to be by Salvador Dali….and if indeed real, probably has some value to it. Name or title of the piece, I have no idea, but the signature is quite clear.

Thank you!

 

[Bernitup]

Thank you!

Yeah, for sure! Gala Dali was Salvador's wife and there is plenty of artwork centered around her….his muse of sorts for a period of time…I suppose…. So, this may have something to do with that category….

If that is indeed a real drawing, those fetch nice prices, 60k, 70k, 100k, +++ etc… Definitely get it checked out!

 

[Bernitup]

Yeah, for sure! Gala Dali was Salvador's wife and there is plenty of artwork centered around her….his muse of sorts for a period of time…I suppose…. So, this may have something to do with that category….

If that is indeed a real drawing, those fetch nice prices, 60k, 70k, 100k, +++ etc… Definitely get it checked out!

This piece is far out and reminds me of his lobster phone…craziness! Good luck, I hope it’s a winner for you!

 

[Tpmetal]

Looks like a lithograph print, how are you so sure it is a drawing?

 

[Southpaw1232]

Looks like a lithograph print, how are you so sure it is a drawing?

I had it looked at by local artists around the area thst have studied art for a long time. Four of them to be exact. You can see pencil marks in it and ink bleed through on the back of the paper.

 

[Drew61]

So what did they say?

 

[Southpaw1232]

So what did they say?

They all told me that the drawing is real and not a print. That I really need to get it authenticated.

 

[Chilli]

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Its an intriguing picture! Surely they were on hallucinagenics when they did their stuff yes?

 

[Drew61]

They all told me that the drawing is real and not a print. That I really need to get it authenticated.

Sounds like your next step. How did this end up in your possession if you don’t mind me asking?

 

[Clay Diggins]

It looks very much like one of Dali's stone lithograph "bulletism" works from the late 40's. .Those are very rare and valuable. It looks like an original except 99% of them you find in the wild are fakes. Dali is the most faked artist in history. For that reason alone closer inspection is needed and several expert opinions will be needed if the first expert considers it genuine.

There are some things you can do to help see if it's genuine without calling for a Dali expert.

Have you dismounted the print and checked for a watermark? It's a quick check when examining Dali lithos and something an owner can easily do. Hold the paper up to a light and look for a faint Infinity symbol or Arches design somewhere in the weave of the paper itself - not the artwork.

Using a 10 power magnifier look at the surface of the print. Do you see a repeating dot pattern? If so it's not genuine.

Measure the size of the original print very carefully. Note any uneven edges or out of square cuts. Size matters with lithos.

It is very odd that it's signed twice with two different dates 1947 and 1950.. Being a stone lithograph it's unlikely it was printed from twice. The stones for the lithos are usually cleaned and reground to be used for different new prints. Good litho stones of size are not cheap so they are usually recycled many times.
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I'm not a Dali signature expert by any means but I've owned and handled 100's of the genuine article and both Dali signatures as well as the crown are "right" but they look forced, like someone took a lot of time getting the proportions right. Almost too perfect. That's not very Dali like in my experience but then he was a pretty weird guy who was obsessed with his signature so who knows?

Good luck, I hope you've got the real thing.

 

[Back-of-the-boat]

I love it. Which means my wife would hate it.

 

[Joecoins]

Woah that cool, you have it, but where when and how did u get it? I'd consider that before inspecting it too closely

 

[Southpaw1232]

It looks very much like one of Dali's stone lithograph "bulletism" works from the late 40's. .Those are very rare and valuable. It looks like an original except 99% of them you find in the wild are fakes. Dali is the most faked artist in history. For that reason alone closer inspection is needed and several expert opinions will be needed if the first expert considers it genuine.

There are some things you can do to help see if it's genuine without calling for a Dali expert.

Have you dismounted the print and checked for a watermark? It's a quick check when examining Dali lithos and something an owner can easily do. Hold the paper up to a light and look for a faint Infinity symbol or Arches design somewhere in the weave of the paper itself - not the artwork.

Using a 10 power magnifier look at the surface of the print. Do you see a repeating dot pattern? If so it's not genuine.

Measure the size of the original print very carefully. Note any uneven edges or out of square cuts. Size matters with lithos.

It is very odd that it's signed twice with two different dates 1947 and 1950.. Being a stone lithograph it's unlikely it was printed from twice. The stones for the lithos are usually cleaned and reground to be used for different new prints. Good litho stones of size are not cheap so they are usually recycled many times.
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I'm not a Dali signature expert by any means but I've owned and handled 100's of the genuine article and both Dali signatures as well as the crown are "right" but they look forced, like someone took a lot of time getting the proportions right. Almost too perfect. That's not very Dali like in my experience but then he was a pretty weird guy who was obsessed with his signature so who knows?

Good luck, I hope you've got the real thing.

Thank you very much for the information. I did look at it with a 10 power magnifier. It does not have the repeating dots. I will definitely get it checked out with others.

 

[Crow]

If its real. it could be worth estimate between 8000 and million USD. Salvador Dali was a prolific artist. not exactly rare. His paintings not counting the famous ones go from between 3 and 4 million are worth much more than drawings. A drawing depending on subject matter range from 8000 to million plus dollars that was based on similar drawings on the market.

Here is link below in Euro that gives you an estimate of his works.

Christies Auction house

This however does not take in account a bidding war on an item.

Crow

 

[Southpaw1232]

You can see where it looks like he sketched with a pencil a bit.

 

[Tpmetal]

View attachment 2138400 You can see where it looks like he sketched with a pencil a bit.

Those could be scratches on the lithograph stone itself, or sometimes artists went back into a print and added stuff by hand later, or for planning in-between printing layers.

 

[finderzzs]

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The dali museum is in sarasota, Florida I believe. Shoot them your photos and see what they have to say. Good luck.

 

[Digger RJ]

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Very Cool!!! Congrats!!!