Horse shoe from the 1600s & Counterfeit George II copper

[hammered]

Horse shoe from the 1600's & Counterfeit George II copper

I finished my chores, took Benson for a walk and there was still time to hit a really big new field just down the road. This field is next to one of the old creeks here, and not that far from the field behind the church next door. It took a while to get there, but when I did I couldn't believe the size of it. I only spent about 3 hours on it, just criss crossing and getting a feel for what might be there. The first part of the field was empty of all signals, then I started getting iron hits, then nothing, then iron. So I thought "What the heck" and dug one of the iron signals and up came this horse shoe from the 1600's. I kind of knew what it was, but had it confirmed by the UKDFD. The rest of that part of the field only had lead, buttons, a couple of modernish Georgian coins (only 1700's), but also a big tooth and lots of pointy flint. Anyway, enjoy the pics


hammered

 

Amazon Forum Fav 👍

Agony and Death on a Gold Rush Steamer: The Disastrous Sinking of the Side-Wheeler Yankee Blade - Grab it through Amazon!

[treasurepirate1]

Re: Horse shoe from the 1600's

wow the UK made those one penny seated lady coins for a very long time but just recently stopped them.

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

Re: Horse shoe from the 1600's

Interesting finds today Ian!

I've never seen a horseshoe from the 1600's before!

The coins are a great find too!

Have a nice weekend,
Dave

 

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

Re: Horse shoe from the 1600's

modernish coins.to us here in the states those are OLD!
nice finds!

 

[hammered]

Re: Horse shoe from the 1600's

Interesting finds today Ian!

I've never seen a horseshoe from the 1600's before!

The coins are a great find too!

Have a nice weekend,
Dave

Thanks Dave, yup no Britannia since Decimalisation, shame really, first brought in by the Romans who miss heard or miss spelled the original name of the Brits. Originally we were the Pritani ( people of forms )

modernish coins.to us here in the states those are OLD!
nice finds!

Hi HMN, for us, that is still fairly modern. When you can dig Celtic, Roman or Saxon anything post 1500's does seem quite modern. Not forgetting hammered coins were soon to be replaced by milled coins and the industrial revolution was a gnats fart around the corner. Having said that, a pristine Queen Anne "Vigo" would be very nice


hammered

 

[High Plains Digger]

Re: Horse shoe from the 1600's

What is that thing opposite from the horsetooth? Curiously interesting.

 

[hammered]

Re: Horse shoe from the 1600's

What is that thing opposite from the horsetooth? Curiously interesting.

For some reason, around here we have a lot of pointy flint. Not worked, just pointy. Some are hollow, some aren't, but I have now decided to collect them, or at least some. There's also a ton of worked flint, but so far , no examples like your native american ones, at least locally.


hammered

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: Horse shoe from the 1600's

The horse shoe doesn't do much for me, but your halfpenny/ counterfeit halfpence does! Even in that condition it's a collectible counterfeit. These websites contradict each other for date, but I would lean on it being 1752 having been labeled that from the Mike Ringo collection. I'd more than lean on it, I'd bet on it, and it would certainly make my day had I dug it.

You should update the title on this post because a few would probably be interested to see it. The first reference says "This coin is thought to be of American manufacture" but that is also something that might have changed as the years have gone on. There's no mention of it in the Stacks auction which means it is likely now thought of as being of British manufacture.

http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinText/UnattributedCount.html

http://legacy.stacks.com/Lot/ItemDetail/175536

 

[Don in SJ]

Re: Horse shoe from the 1600's

IP has the sharp eye and I wish more Brits would show more of their "modern" George coppers, especially the ones that are not regal, there are collectors and researchers who can possibly gain more insight on the contemporary counterfeits made in that time period by seeing what is being found in England. So thanks for posting your Georges!

Don

 

[hammered]

Re: Horse shoe from the 1600's & Counterfeit George II copper

Thanks for the info IP , I would love to post more Georgian coppers, but the ground around here is normally very unkind to copper coins. Even the Viccy ones are pretty badly battle scarred, thats why I'm more interested in the hammereds and such artifacts that survive the ground. The reason for the original "Horse shoe" title was it's date range, more or less from our Civil War period.


hammered

 

[Silver Searcher]

Re: Horse shoe from the 1600's & Counterfeit George II copper



Cool post Ian sounds like you need a little help on that big field

SS

 

[Westfront]

Re: Horse shoe from the 1600's & Counterfeit George II copper

I like the horse shoe. I have several that old because i do a lot woods too. They survive longer there... I have something for whom is interested in horse shoes.
Sorry beeing in german, but the years will do.

 

[CRUSADER]

Re: Horse shoe from the 1600's & Counterfeit George II copper

Thanks for the info IP , I would love to post more Georgian coppers, but the ground around here is normally very unkind to copper coins. Even the Viccy ones are pretty badly battle scarred, thats why I'm more interested in the hammereds and such artifacts that survive the ground. The reason for the original "Horse shoe" title was it's date range, more or less from our Civil War period.


hammered

Agreed, most of mine are too far gone to tell if they were counterfeit or Regal. But as I post everything, it will be on here. Its a great looking example of a counterfeit


You got a 1719 & me a 1721

The Hunts Button is a bonus to

Keep gridding

 

[hammered]

Re: Horse shoe from the 1600's & Counterfeit George II copper

Thanks for the info IP , I would love to post more Georgian coppers, but the ground around here is normally very unkind to copper coins. Even the Viccy ones are pretty badly battle scarred, thats why I'm more interested in the hammereds and such artifacts that survive the ground. The reason for the original "Horse shoe" title was it's date range, more or less from our Civil War period.


hammered

Agreed, most of mine are too far gone to tell if they were counterfeit or Regal. But as I post everything, it will be on here. Its a great looking example of a counterfeit


You got a 1719 & me a 1721

The Hunts Button is a bonus to

Keep gridding

I thought you might like to see the field. I've only done a bit of the left side, tomorrow I'm going to have a look at the right side


hammered

 

[riverrunner814]

Re: Horse shoe from the 1600's & Counterfeit George II copper

But I do like the chimps dancing LOL Great finds!!!!

 

[HISPAN]

Re: Horse shoe from the 1600's & Counterfeit George II copper

Not bad for three hours just walking the dog ...
I think in the middle of the field to the left of the photo are some old wells and one wall , but sometimes I'm wrong and it could be anything else.
H

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: Horse shoe from the 1600's & Counterfeit George II copper

Thanks for the info IP , I would love to post more Georgian coppers, but the ground around here is normally very unkind to copper coins. Even the Viccy ones are pretty badly battle scarred, thats why I'm more interested in the hammereds and such artifacts that survive the ground. The reason for the original "Horse shoe" title was it's date range, more or less from our Civil War period.


hammered

It's very close in design to one that is rarer and would have been worth a few hundred min. even in that condition. I like them so think they're all good finds.

 

[hammered]

Re: Horse shoe from the 1600's & Counterfeit George II copper

Not bad for three hours just walking the dog ...
I think in the middle of the field to the left of the photo are some old wells and one wall , but sometimes I'm wrong and it could be anything else.
H

Hi "H" , the 2 lighter coloured fields have nothing in, I checked last year. The field you are looking at is next to the field I am in at the moment, but, for you I will look there tomorrow , this field held a secret World War 2 anti V1 battery called Divers Unit 37, so what you are seeing might be the placings for anti aircraft batteries, I will check , I hope you have a great day detecting tomorrow my friend


hammered

 

[hammered]

Re: Horse shoe from the 1600's & Counterfeit George II copper

Thanks for the info IP , I would love to post more Georgian coppers, but the ground around here is normally very unkind to copper coins. Even the Viccy ones are pretty badly battle scarred, thats why I'm more interested in the hammereds and such artifacts that survive the ground. The reason for the original "Horse shoe" title was it's date range, more or less from our Civil War period.


hammered

It's very close in design to one that is rarer and would have been worth a few hundred min. even in that condition. I like them so think they're all good finds.

You have id'd a counterfeit before for me, so from now on I will post ALL Georgian that I find, hopefully one or two will be in a better condition for you mate . After your first post on this thread, I have read more about Georgian counterfeits, VERY interesting . Take care mate


hammered

 

[HISPAN]

Re: Horse shoe from the 1600's & Counterfeit George II copper

Not bad for three hours just walking the dog ...
I think in the middle of the field to the left of the photo are some old wells and one wall , but sometimes I'm wrong and it could be anything else.
H

Hi "H" , the 2 lighter coloured fields have nothing in, I checked last year. The field you are looking at is next to the field I am in at the moment, but, for you I will look there tomorrow , this field held a secret World War 2 anti V1 battery called Divers Unit 37, so what you are seeing might be the placings for anti aircraft batteries, I will check , I hope you have a great day detecting tomorrow my friend


hammered

Then you should find plenty of ammunition there, tell me something if you come back tomorrow ..... although almost always I wrong with the satellite photos.
H