ID these two points please.

[Dug]

Hi;

While out detecting a farm field today I eyeballed these two points. The area was the Sea Islands of the South Carolina Low Country.

I imagine the material to be Chert AKA Savannah River Agate since that would be the closest source due to the sandy soils here.

Any help on how old and who may have made these?

 

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[eastTNJoe]

nice finds!

 

[GatorBoy]

Wow very nice..now I'm no south Carolina specialist but my best guess from just this photo would be the tan one "Yadkin triangle" 500-2500 years old and the other looks much older..I'd say Mabey "Alamance" at 8,000-10,000 years old "Paleo"

 

[SCrocks]

I would say Yadkin on the tan one too. The other looks from the picture to have the base broke off . Usually hard to tell without the base. Nice finds though.

 

[GatorBoy]

I would say Yadkin on the tan one too. The other looks from the picture to have the base broke off . Usually hard to tell without the base. Nice finds though.

I think the base is ground.

 

[SCrocks]

Can't tell good from the picture but looks like the stem has an old old break. Couple different angles might help.

 

[Dug]

Thank you for the responses and education. Here are a few more teasers from the same field. The top three are all missing a portion, which is not surprising given that it is a farm field that has seen decades of plow action. The bottom piece is intact but rather crude. I forgot to mention that the area is littered with one inch square pottery pieces (brown on the outer side, black on the inner side) so I imagine it was a settlement area at one time.

 

[Dug]

Here is the back side of the point in question. Given that it's a farm field the chances are better than even the base is missing. But what I know about points I'm learning from this forum.

 

[Dug]

Another angle

 

[GatorBoy]

the new ones you posted look like.. top left... Savannah river base...top right...Morrow mountain base... bottom...crude Yadkin and not sure about the other.
Im sticking with Alamance on the one in question.
Doesn't look broken to me.. looks ground on the base.
The grinding coupled with the thick patina has obscured the flaking done to thin the base but its there.

 

[GatorBoy]

This one was found by fellow Tnet







member Th3rty7

 

[SCrocks]

Don't know what I would call the point in question but my feeling is it's a well used archaic something with some possible old damage to the base area. I agree the blurry picture looks like it's had some grinding but something about the way it doesn't roll on under the other side and seems to just stop flat on the under side. A few different pictures and I might think different. Been wrong before. I don't see it as Alamance though. A little to big and not much a concave look to the base area. Just had a discussion on a different forum about Alamance. Many experts say it's the same as Hardaway/dalton and should just be Hardaway/Dalton. Interesting hobby for sure.

 

[GatorBoy]

Here is an interesting read about how the Alamance may fit in between the older Haw River and the yourger Hardaway Dalton.
http://csasi.org/states/nsc/baucom/baucom31.htm

 

[Megalops]

I agree with the top left being a SR & the top right a MM. I think the one in between them could be a crude corner notched Early Archaic point but it's hard to tell. I think the one on the bottom it a hafted scraper.

Also I agree about the possible Alamance having a ground base & therefore being a whole point.

the new ones you posted look like.. top left... Savannah river base...top right...Morrow mountain base... bottom...crude Yadkin and not sure about the other.
Im sticking with Alamance on the one in question.
Doesn't look broken to me.. looks ground on the base.
The grinding coupled with the thick patina has obscured the flaking done to thin the base but its there.

 

[GatorBoy]

Welcome aboard.

 

[SCrocks]

This is what I was describing.

 

[rock]

Nice Triangular points. They would fit well in the thread I just started. Welcome to tnet.