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The truth behind the Beale Papers is both explosive and extremely accurate which is why the author removed himself from the publication, this author residing in Richmond and having first hand knowledge and undeniable evidence of all that he narrated in the required illusive manner.
Nearly every detail in the presented summation is backed by documents and letters that were found in the Library of Congress once the researcher knew exactly what he was looking for. C1 & C3 contain the most intimate details regarding these events and the people who made it all possible.
The Beale Papers were written not long before their actual publishing and the author was narrating in both present and past-tense with full knowledge of the described histories and the general "clear text" contents of the ciphers...
If I perceive the road taken in this "theory", it is just another "could be" based on the ambiguous mention of dates, names, and locations referred to in the 1885 Beale Papers.
 

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If I perceive the road taken in this "theory", it is just another "could be" based on the ambiguous mention of dates, names, and locations referred to in the 1885 Beale Papers.

Has it dawned on you yet that "every name" in that publication and relating to that publication was "a real" person? "Every last one of them." Maybe you need to entertain this a bit more.......
 

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We tried to tell you for years all of the characters in the Job Print Pamphlet were real people but you kept bashing us now you want us to accept what we already knew twenty or more years ago.
 

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The main piece of evidence that negates the Rev John Rankin/Underground Railroad theory is the letterhead stationary used by James Beverly Ward when he applied for copyright of the Beale Papers.
 

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The main piece of evidence that negates the Rev John Rankin/Underground Railroad theory is the letterhead stationary used by James Beverly Ward when he applied for copyright of the Beale Papers.

I have several note pads with various letter heads on them that I have picked up here and there, these I let my granddaughter use to scribble on. Businesses use to hand out that type of stuff, use it for promotions, etc. Some even sold stationary with their letterheads. I think you're making way too much of that letterhead. And as for Rankin,.....might just want to stick to the names and details in the Beale papers.
 

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There were many classes of blacks throughout the effected period, for instance there were Africans, both before and after the African slave trade was abolished, this representing two distinct classes of Africans here in the US. There were also blacks who were born into slavery here in the US, this being another class of blacks. And there were also free men of color, some born free while others were being emancipated all throughout the period. Heck, there were even black slave owners and black slave traders. Quite the mess.
 

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...It will all come to light sometime after the Holidays. And boys, "this is absolutely, and very conclusively, it!"
The Beale Papers are, as was required due to circumstance at the time, a slightly altered true narration of extraordinary events. Thomas J. Beale was real, as you will all soon learn.
"A slightly altered true narration of extraordinary events" that is absolutely and very conclusively it ???
We have all heard that before.
 

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... I think you're making way too much of that letterhead...
The letterhead stationary that James Beverly Ward used to apply for the Beale Papers copyright, was from the ADAMS BROS, & PAYNES Co, 12th Street, Lynchburg, where Ward's son-in -law was manager.
The very nature of the origin of that stationary rules out any other person than Ward,as applying for the Beale Papers copyright.
 

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There were many classes of blacks throughout the effected period, for instance there were Africans, both before and after the African slave trade was abolished, this representing two distinct classes of Africans here in the US. There were also blacks who were born into slavery here in the US, this being another class of blacks. And there were also free men of color, some born free while others were being emancipated all throughout the period. Heck, there were even black slave owners and black slave traders. Quite the mess.
...and in Richmond, there were the RICHMOND HOWITZERS, Confederate freemen born of color.
 

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Mr. Doyle would tell you there is a conclusion “too obvious” to be missed, and yet we all had.

Thomas J. Beale, of Richmond, that same city where your author had important business affairs, is a man, the only man of record who fits the author's description. Now all you really have to do is to figure out what this man had in common with your all in the family theory? This is the vital missing link in your theory.
Mr. Doyle...? A "BRIT"...? Revealed on YOUR web-site, eh...?
 

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There were many classes of blacks throughout the effected period, for instance there were Africans, both before and after the African slave trade was abolished, this representing two distinct classes of Africans here in the US. There were also blacks who were born into slavery here in the US, this being another class of blacks. And there were also free men of color, some born free while others were being emancipated all throughout the period. Heck, there were even black slave owners and black slave traders. Quite the mess.
YEP! They even had their own "mountain community" in Amherst County, Va. (@ 6 miles north of Lynchburg, Va.)... FREETOWN, on Tobacco Row Mountain; wife & I rented a place near there, on Ward's Gap Rd.; near BUFFALO RIVER.
 

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The letterhead stationary that James Beverly Ward used to apply for the Beale Papers copyright, was from the ADAMS BROS, & PAYNES Co, 12th Street, Lynchburg, where Ward's son-in -law was manager.
The very nature of the origin of that stationary rules out any other person than Ward,as applying for the Beale Papers copyright.

Regardless of the stationary, we have the actual application which pretty much already rules that out.
 

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There were many classes of blacks throughout the effected period, for instance there were Africans, both before and after the African slave trade was abolished, this representing two distinct classes of Africans here in the US. There were also blacks who were born into slavery here in the US, this being another class of blacks. And there were also free men of color, some born free while others were being emancipated all throughout the period. Heck, there were even black slave owners and black slave traders. Quite the mess.

My point being, there were several different classes of blacks, something that often gets lost in the whole slavery issue.
 

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Regardless of the stationary, we have the actual application which pretty much already rules that out.
You have this application in your possession?
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The signature is James B Ward, and the copyright number from the Library of Congress is issued to Ward.
What do you have that "rules" any of this out?
 

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An open mind, you'll need this if you want to know the truth behind the Beale Papers. The truth is simply that the Beale Papers present both a local and a historical account of actual events that took place within American history, this history spanning from roughly from 1808 to after the Civil War. The names Clay, Coles, Witcher, Jackson, and Chief Justice Marshall being relevant to both national history and local history as "all of these men" frequently spent time in the Lynchburg area so their significance in the story is both local and national.

Thomas J. Beale was a real individual, just as he is described in the pamphlet, and his association with the names and histories referenced above was both of a direct and indirect capacity. Santa Fe, Saint Louis, Richmond, Lynchburg, Bedford, all of these referenced locations likewise playing pivotal roles in these various histories.

"The flame is worth the candle"...is also at the very core of the story which will be explained later.

In fact, just about every detail offered in the narration was offered with a decided significance, this even including all of the referenced dates.

The truth behind the Beale Papers is both explosive and extremely accurate which is why the author removed himself from the publication, this author residing in Richmond and having first hand knowledge and undeniable evidence of all that he narrated in the required illusive manner.

Nearly every detail in the presented summation is backed by documents and letters that were found in the Library of Congress once the researcher knew exactly what he was looking for. C1 & C3 contain the most intimate details regarding these events and the people who made it all possible.

The Beale Papers were written not long before their actual publishing and the author was narrating in both present and past-tense with full knowledge of the described histories and the general "clear text" contents of the ciphers.

Now then, as this IS NOT my summation all I am free to say at this time is that all of this will be coming to light in the future.

Once this theory hits the public forums and all of the evidence has been presented and reviewed there will be little doubt that the fiction theory has just been knocked off of it's residing throne. It is truly a remarkable, accurate, and authentic summation, pardon the pun. :thumbsup:


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You have this application in your possession?
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The signature is James B Ward, and the copyright number from the Library of Congress is issued to Ward.
What do you have that "rules" any of this out?

I don't, never did. "Ward applied for copyright."
Just suggesting that you don't read too much into the letterhead.
 

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Doing the math....what year was the "all in the family" iron box said to have been opened?
 

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Doing the math....what year was the "all in the family" iron box said to have been opened?

According to Mr. Morriss, he should have opened the ironbox ten years after the ironbox was placed in his charge which would have been 1832 but he waited 23 years until 1845 to open the iron box. Seventeen years later during the second year of the War of Northern Aggression he turned everything over to the author of the Job Print Pamphlet.

Something that has always puzzled me is why did James Beverly Ward apply for the copyright March 26, 1884? JMB said about all of the copies of the Job Print Pamphlet had burned in a fire. The Great Fire of Lynchburg was in 1883, why the copyright the following year and why the sale of the Job Print Pamphlets in 1885 if they had all burned? Don't make sense to me. As you will find many of these discrepancies thourhout the Job Print Pamphlet.
 

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