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The Crittenden Memoirs--1936...J.Frank Dalton Interview

I Thought If Anyone Hadn't Read This...It's Really Interesting..From J.Frank Dalton Before He Decided To Be Jesse James..Outlaw.

Kace

"The Crittenden Memoirs" ( New York: G. P. Putnam's Sons, 1936 - Fully Illustrated, xvi + 17-542 pages ) - compiled by H. H. Crittenden.

CONTENTS:

vii - Preface
ix - Foreword
xiii - Illustrations
17 - Thomas T. Crittenden
87 - John B. Henderson
88 - William Logan Crittenden
99 - Henry Clay
102 - John J. Crittenden
110 - Civil War in Missouri
119 - Thomas T. Crittenden
129 - Outlawry in Missouri
375 - Memoirs of H. H. Crittenden - Friends and Acquaintances
513 - Addenda - Crittendens and Murrays
531 - Index

( from "Preface," page vii ):

"The writer's purpose in compiling this publication is to preserve for History's sake certain events that have transpired during Governor Thomas T. Crittenden's lifetime and his administration as Governor of Missouri, as recorded in his AUTOBIOGRAPHY; his course in RIDDING THE STATE OF THE 'JAMES GANG.' Also the personal Memoirs of H. H. Crittenden, including a chapter on SOCIAL WASHINGTON. . ."

( from "Foreword," page ix ):

"The 'Crittenden Memoirs,' here edited by Mr. Henry Huston Crittenden and submitted to the public, presents the reminiscences of an eminent Missourian - Thomas Theodore Crittenden - the outstanding Missouri member of a family long distinguished in the history of Kentucky and Missouri. Thomas Theodore Crittenden (1832-1909) was a grandson of John Crittenden (a major in the Revolutionary War), a nephew of John Jordan Crittenden (United States senator and governor of Kentucky), and a brother of William Logan Crittenden, who lost his life in the Lopez Expedition of 1851.
. . . A prominent central Missouri lawyer, lieutenant colonel of a Missouri regiment of cavalry in the service of the Union during the Civil War, attorney general of Missouri, congressman, governor of the state, and United States consul general to Mexico in Cleveland's administration, Thomas T. Crittenden's active public life covered more than half a century.
He came to Missouri in 1857, first locating at Lexington in Lafayette county on the western border of the State. At the close of the Civil War he moved to Warrensburg, where he formed a law partnership with Francis Marion Cockrell, later United States Senator from Missouri. He served two terms in Congress and in 1880 was elected governor of Missouri. . ."

Biographical Notes on the persons mentioned above:

John Crittenden (died March 30, 1806) - A major in the Revolutionary War. He was the father of Henry C. Crittenden (1792-1834) and the paternal grandfather of Thomas T. Crittenden (1832-1909).

John Jordan Crittenden (Sept. 10, 1786 - July 26, 1863) - United States senator and governor of Kentucky. He was an uncle of Thomas T. Crittenden (1832-1909).

Henry C. Crittenden (May 24, 1792 - Dec. 31, 1834) and Anna Maria Allen (Aug. 5, 1802 - April 25, 1877) - The parents of Thomas T. Crittenden (1832-1909).

William Logan Crittenden (May 31, 1823 - Aug. 16, 1851 ) - Lost his life in the Lopez Expedition of 1851. He was a brother of Thomas T. Crittenden (1832-1909).

Thomas Theodore Crittenden (Jan. 1, 1832 - May 29, 1909) - Governor of Missouri. He was born on a farm near Shelbyville, Shelby County, Kentucky. His wife was Caroline ("Carrie") Wheeler Jackson (Aug. 1, 1839 - Jan. 27, 1917).

Henry Huston Crittenden (born Nov. 28, 1859) - A son of Thomas T. Crittenden (1832-1909).

Thomas Theodore Crittenden, Jr. (Dec. 23, 1863 - July 31, 1938) - A son of Thomas T. Crittenden (1832-1909).

Below is the complete text of writings of Frank Dalton (aka J. Frank Dalton) (March 8, 1848 - August 15, 1951) which H. H. Crittenden included in "The Crittenden Memoirs." Dalton's contribution to "The Crittenden Memoirs" is comprised of 20 pages of text (pages 355-374) which appear at the very end of the sub-section (pages 129-374) titled "Ridding Missouri of the 'James Gang' - Death of Jesse James - Outlawry in Missouri":

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OUTLAWRY - FRANK DALTON'S PEN PICTURES

FRANK DALTON, now living in Texas, who rode with Quantrill and the "James Boys" in the 70s as one of the band, gives pen pictures of the Missouri Outlaws. He visited old haunts in his native State, Missouri, in February, 1935, and appeared quite active in spite of his 87 years.
Though previously unknown to the writer [H. H. Crittenden], he called at the office to see my brother, Thomas T. Crittenden Jr. [1863-1938], entirely unaware a history of the activities of the "James Gang" and other outlaws was being compiled by the writer.
The following letters written by Frank Dalton for a Texas publication will no doubt prove interesting to the general public which is at all familiar with the terror created by the Missouri Outlaws.

H. H. C. [Henry Huston Crittenden]

"SLAVE SALE"

By FRANK DALTON

Did you ever attend a slave sale? No, I don't suppose you ever did, for there are but few people now living who are old enough to remember that far back. I attended two, one in 1858 in Atlanta, Ga., and one in 1860 in Natchez, Miss., where over two thousand negroes were sold. This sale lasted ten days and there were planters there to either buy or sell slaves from nearly every State in the South. The sale in Natchez was an annual event and during it the town entertained lavishly, with dancing and other forms of amusement, parties and plays for the guests, with the theatre putting on the best plays and talent they could procure. Florence Nightingale, the Booths, Lily Langtry, Adeline Patti ( the elder ) and hosts of other leading actors and actresses now long since forgotten, were on hand to entertain the Elite of Dixieland during the sale. During this time hotels and taverns were filled to capacity, and the homes of the aristocracy were often crowded with out of town friends and notables. The raised platform on which the sale is to be held is located on the court house square and surrounded

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with plank seats that are higher in the back than in front, like the seats at a race track or ball park, and with awnings to protect the guests from sun or rain. There is a row of booths with curtains and upholstered seats directly in front of the sale platform for the notables who are to be present. The seats are all free, of course, but for the use of men who are there either to buy or sell slaves. Very few women are present, as a sale is no place for the women or children. I was there and in one of the booths with papa, who was a State senator of our home State at that time. He had also been an officer in the Mexican War. I was 12 years old, but although 75 years have passed since then I remember every detail that came under my observation. The sale opened with a parade of the 2,000 slaves that were to be sold at 10 o'clock, May 1st, 1860. The parade lasted nearly an hour, after which the auctioneer, a venerable grey-haired man who looked more like a preacher than an auctioneer of slaves, gave a talk about the slaves that were to be sold. By this time it was nearing noon so a recess was taken till one o'clock, when the selling began. The first to be sold was a block of 50 plantation negroes, all males and ranging from 20 to 30 years old. They were of medium size, mostly 5 feet 6 or 8 inches in height, and weighing around 150 or 160 pounds. They were clothed only in a breech cloth and were made to jump and bend to show that they were sound, after which their eyes and teeth were examined and they were looked over for blemishes, much as you would look over a bunch of horses or mules you were intending to buy. Bidding was rather brisk on this bunch and they were sold to a planter from Virginia for $800 apiece, or $40,000 for the lot of fifty.
The next to be offered was a bunch of 25 female cotton negroes. Bidding was not quite so brisk on these and the same planter who had bought the males was the highest bidder and got them for $500 apiece, or $12,500 for the lot, which was considered very low, as they were all young and husky. The next was a lot of 30 "trundle bed trash," males and females from 5 to 12 years old. They were bid on and sold to the same planter who had bought the other two lots. The sale price of these was $100 apiece, which was a fair price - $3,000 for the lot. By this time it was getting late, nearly 6 o'clock, so the sale was closed for the day, to be opened at 9 o'clock the next day.
After supper the people, especially the younger ones, came out in great numbers and by dark the streets were crowded with people who were out for a good time, while the older ones proceeded to one of the numerous theatres or sought other places of indoor amusement. My father and I went to a dance that was given in honor of the Governor of Mississippi.

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The next morning at 9 o'clock the sale opened again with a block of 25 "timber," or saw mill negroes. A husky lot, these, with not a one under six feet and most of them taller even than that, and weighing from 185 to 235 pounds. Zulus and Matabeles, these, with three Kaffirs to top the bunch, than which there is no more perfect specimens of physical manhood anywhere on earth. These negroes sold for $1,500 each to a saw mill man from Georgia. And so the sale went on from day to day, with blocks from 10 to 100 slaves being sold till the bulk of the two thousand were disposed of. The "house" negroes, or servants are always held till the last and so it was in this case. On the last two days of the sale cooks, laundresses, waiters, maids and personal servants were offered for sale. These were all trained to whatever they were to do, and in most cases brought a far better price than the common field negro, or laborer. The servants and house slaves are usually picked from the hottentot and bushman tribes, as they are more docile and easier managed than the bigger and fiercer tribes, such as the Kaffir or Matabele.
Well, I have taken you to a slave sale and shown how it was worked. As I said in the commencement of this little story, I have seen two sales, and I vividly remember both of them. They were much the same, excepting that there were more slaves sold at the one I saw in Natchez. The harrowing heart-breaking incidents depicted by most writers on this subject were entirely absent at both places. In fact, the negroes seemed to enjoy themselves all through the sale, and except while on the platform were singing and having the time of their lives. No, the negro thrives on excitement.

Yours truly,
(Signed ) FRANK DALTON

THE YOUNGER BROTHERS

By FRANK DALTON

The Younger family consisted of Colonel Henry Younger who was assassinated near the beginning of the Civil War; a mother, and several daughters, one of whom married Louis Dalton and became the mother of the Dalton Boys who were killed or captured in a bank holdup in Coffeyville, Kansas, on the 5th day of October, 1892. There were 15 of the Dalton children, only four of them ever went wrong, the rest being respected and honest citizens. But this is a Younger story, so let's get along. There were five boys, Thomas Coleman, or "Cole" as he was more commonly called; John, who was reported killed not long after the close of the war; James, who accidentally shot and killed himself after being paroled from

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prison; Robert Emmet who died in prison, and Richard Ewing, who died near the commencement of the war.
Of these, two were with Quantrell the last two years or so of the war. These two were Cole and John. Cole joined Quantrell in '62. John joined in March '63, when he was 15 years old. They both stayed with Quantrell till the war was over and Quantrall's men disbanded, which they did in Louisiana in October 1865. Jim and Bob were with Quantrell off and on, but not steady. Jim was a scout in General Price's army most of the time during the last two years of the war. After the war ( October '65 ) Gen. Joe Shelby of Missouri came through Quantrell's camp in Louisiana with a bunch of men on their way to Mexico to fight with Maximilian who wanted to be emperor down there. Cole and John, as well as a few others of Quantrell's men joined him and went along. Things were not satisfactory, however, so after a few battles and skirmishes the most of Shelby's men came back, Cole and John among them. The Youngers split away from the rest of the men after crossing the Rio Grande and made the trip across Texas alone. They were stopping one night at a ferryman's house on the Sabine river when about 8 o'clock in the evening, a girl about seventeen years old, rode up and said that her brother's plantation house, about six miles down the river, was surrounded by a band of 60 or 70 negroes, led by a couple of white men. They had already set fire to the barns and cotton gin before she had sneaked through them and gotten away. Her brother and his wife and three small children were barricaded in the house and were managing to hold them off, but he could not do so for long as he had but little ammunition. There were eight men stopping there at the ferry that night, all of them ex-Confederate soldiers, and all, of course, well armed, as people had to be to live in that part of the country at that time. We left the girl in charge of the ferryman's wife, and, guided by the ferryman who knew the country, we set out. The moon came up just before we started and by the time we got there, was giving plenty of light to see to shoot by. The Ku Klux Klan was organized shortly after that and Cole and John Younger stayed in it till the spring of '67, when Bob and Jim joined them. It was getting along late in the spring and John decided, as he had not been home since the close of the war, to risk a trip home to see how the folks were getting along. He knew that the house was being closely watched for either he or his brothers, but decided to risk a short visit any way. When he got home and found his mother sick and no one on the place but the girls, and they busy in the house with their sick mother, of course he had to stay and look after things. Cole got to worrying about letting the boy go home alone, and he and Bob started back to help him out if he

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should get into trouble, as the country back in Missouri was swarming with detectives and other reward hunters. It's a good thing they came back too, for they arrived just in the nick of time, as told in another part of the story. Jim Younger stayed on till Texas was allowed to elect their own officers again, when, the need of the KKK being over, they disbanded. After the reported death of John Younger, Cole and Bob came back to Texas. They made several trips over the trail with cattle, and on one occasion, they bought a herd of 2,500 and drove it up themselves. The James boys were said to have been with them on that trip which was not so. Frank James was running a store in Louisiana at that time, and Jesse had a string of race horses. It was while in Abilene, Kansas, after one of these trail trips that they met Charley Pitts. Pitts had been with Quantrell during the war and this was their first meeting since. After talking about old times for a while, Pitts told them he had drifted north after the war to get away from reward hunters, and among other places he had visited was a small town in Minnesota by the name of Northfield where Butler had a private bank. Ben F. Butler had been a general in the Northern army during the war and had made himself obnoxious to the South by his tendency to "confiscate" everything in sight. He was reputed to be immensely wealthy at the close of the war, and Pitts said that there was anywhere from three to four hundred thousand dollars always on hand in the Northfield bank.
"I already have two men to go, Bill Chadwell and Clell Miller, you boys know them both, they were with Quantrell when we were, and with you three ( Jim was along with Cole and Bob on this trip ) it will be easy." "But how about finding our way back from up there if anything happens to you? There are none of us who have ever been much farther north than St. Jo, and only that far a few times during the war." Cole was a little dubious, although he had no scruples about stealing from Butler, for as he looked at it, it would be taking what he had stolen from the South during the war.
At last, Bob, the last to be convinced, gave in and they started.
On arriving at Northfield they found a fair going on and the town full of people, and decided to wait till the fair was over. So they proceeded to have a good time, which meant in their case to get good and gloriously drunk, with the inevitable result. "Come on, what's the use of waiting?" "We're here to rob old 'Spoons' Butler's bank and let's get into action!" This from Bill Chadwell, who was part Indian. Clell Miller, Cole and Jim Younger went in the bank and Bob, Pitts and Chadwell stayed out to keep a look-out and watch the horses. All might have went well but for the cashier, Haywood. When told to put up his hands, instead of complying, he got scared and tried to hide under a table. Miller, thinking

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the fellow had gotten under there to pull a gun, stooped down and shot him, killing him instantly. This shot immediately attracted attention, for unlike most of our Texas towns of that time, a gun shot in town was of rare occurrence. The boys made it to their horses and managed to mount, but the fight was on. Two of them, Charlie Pitts and Clell Miller were killed almost at once. Bill Chadwell's horse was shot from under him and he rolled under a house where he stayed till night, when he made his way back to Texas. As he was not known personally up there in that country, that was easy. It was made easier still, for a strange man was found near the fallen horse and as he had been shot to death it has always been believed that he was Chadwell. Even the Youngers thought so. Not so strange after all, for during a fair a town is always full of strangers. Just someone who had been hit by a stray bullet. Chadwell died in 1911 on the Mississippi river below Vicksburg in a shanty boat. He had become a fisherman. Bob Younger was shot through the lung and through the jaw. He died in prison. After getting out of the town of Northfield, the boys were bewildered. Pitts, their guide, was killed and they didn't know where or which direction to go. Besides, the whole country was aroused and up in arms looking for them. They were finally surrounded in the swamps near Mankato, by literally thousands of angry people. With no chance to break through and escape, and Bob at the point of death from his wounds, Cole at last decided to surrender. Tying his shirt which had once been white, to a stick, he waved it in token of surrender when a sheriff and about fifty of the braver of the men came in to get them. Up to this time their identity was not known by anyone in that part of the country, but it was supposed that they were just amateurs. Well, the play all the way through, from the start to the finish bore out that impression. When the people found out that they had captured three of the noted Younger Brothers they were treated with marked respect, for even the people up north felt in sympathy with them and hated the way they had been so cruelly wronged, both during and after the war. Bob's wounds were given careful attention by a doctor who was with the posse, and he was put in a hack with plenty of blankets and with Cole and Jim on either side of his bed the start was made to Mankato and two long years behind prison bars. I will say here that neither Cole nor Jim were handcuffed, nor ironed in any way, but on their promise not to attempt to escape were allowed to be free so they could attend to their brother Bob. They were finally tried and given a life term in the Stillwater penitentiary.
The rest is history and too familiar, and too recent occurrences for me to repeat here. Bob died in prison. Cole and Jim were paroled and stayed for a while in Minnesota where Jim accidentally

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shot and killed himself while loading a pistol. Cole was finally given a full pardon and came back to Missouri to make his home. He died in Lee's Summit, Missouri, on the 21st day of March, 1917, just before the United States went into the World War. Had he lived he intended to raise a regiment and go over. The things I tell about in this story are facts. It is of no difference how I know. That I do know is sufficient.

Yours truly,
FRANK DALTON.

THE MEN OF QUANTRELL
By FRANK DALTON

When the Civil war was over,
And the South had laid down their arms
And came back to wives and sweethearts,
To their villages and farms.

Quantrell's men were classed as criminals,
We had not been mustered in
To the regular Southern armies,
We were a band of outlawed men.

Hunted down and shot like wild things,
Like a coyote, wolf or bear;
Chased from one state to another,
Hunted, hounded everywhere.

Not a crime so dark or fiendish,
Nor an act so mean or low,
But 'twas charged to the men of Quantrell,
"Yes, it must be them, you know."

And when the war was over
And we'd scattered o'er the land,
Here and there arose a rumor,
"Yes, he's one of Quantrell's band."

Some were chased and killed or captured,
Others ran or hid away,
But it's time the Truth was spoken,
We are feeble, old and gray.

Let us tell our simple story,
How we fought to shield our homes
From the thugs and border ruffians,
Tho we had to fight alone.

Some made good while others didn't,
Some gained wealth and honor too,
Others took the "Owl Hoot" trail,
That there was nothing else to do.

But no matter what their station,
Or how well be became known,
The cloud of "65" was present
And our names were not our own.

But our secret well was guarded
By the men who knew us well,
"Quantrell's oath" took care of that,
"What you know don't ever tell."

Dear Readers:

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MY ADVENTURES WITH JESSE JAMES
By FRANK DALTON

In looking back on the stirring days of the Civil War and the hectic times of reconstruction immediately following, my memory oft times plays curious pranks, and some of the most tragic and vital occurrences are forgotten entirely, while other and more trivial happenings stand out as if of recent occurrence. However, this is not a narrative of the Civil War or even my part in it, as that has all been told over and over, and by abler pens, perhaps, than mine. There are lots of incidents of those days, however, that have never been told at all or greatly misrepresented. This was unavoidable, as we, who knew the truth, were necessarily silent and for obvious reasons, while the chroniclers of that time took the few facts they could muster and let their imagination do the rest. As a whole the men of Quantrell were a secretive bunch and would tell nothing. But the need of secrecy has passed as to the things I shall tell about here, to-wit: Who and what was Quantrell? Why was Jesse James killed? Why was it thought by many that the man killed by Bob Ford was not Jesse James? Why did Aunt Zerelda ( Jesse's mother ) at first deny that the murdered man was her boy? These things have never been told at all, or grossly misrepresented in the telling.
Quantrell's right name was Charles Hart, and he was engaged in teaching school at Lawrence, Kan., when the war started. Being a mild and tolerant man, he counseled moderation in the treatment of people suspected of being Southern sympathizers, who were often either shot or hung, if they should not swear the oath of allegiance to the northern cause. This would not do in Lawrence, however, which was an unreasonable hotbed of abolition. So Hart was tied to a tree and horsewhipped.

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Some there were who wanted to "hang the damn rebel sympathiser." Milder counsel prevailed and after the whipping he was turned loose and told to get out of the county, which he did, coming to Missouri, where he organized "Quantrell's Militia," a band of boys too young to enlist in the Southern armies for the most part, but big enough to ride and shoot, as the Yankees often found out to their sorrow. Our duties were to patrol the country and guard our homes. I enlisted at Blackwater, Mo., March 8th, 1863, the day I was 15 years old. There were several though, that were younger than I was. In the summer of '63 a band of 322 of us rode into the town of Lawrence and burned the town. That is everything except Bowersock's Mill which we left standing, as we thought it wouldn't be long till Price or some of them would capture Kansas, and if they did a good grist mill might come in handy.
I don't know why the real reason for the killing of Jesse James was never made public for Bob Ford told it to the Sheriff and others of us when we were in the room where Jesse lay dead. I had been sent for, among others, to identify him, but the facts were never told and I am giving them here for the first time.
Jesse owned a string of running horses and under the name of "Thomas Howard" made fairs and race meetings.
He had Bob Ford riding for him until he got too heavy when he went to taking care of the horses and his brother, Charley, who was younger and lighter than Bob, went to riding. Of course, Bob knew who "Tom Howard" was, which was unavoidable in their close association. The rewards for Jesse were steadily mounting as trains and banks were being robbed in various parts of the country and Jesse was watching and suspecting everybody, nearly, who knew who he was, and thinking that perhaps they were out to betray or kill him. He, with his family, consisting of his wife, Johnny ( or Young Jesse, as he was to be known later ), aged 7 and a girl, Mary, aged 5, were living in a small house in the eastern part of St. Joseph, Mo. There was to be a race meeting from the 20th to the 26th of April that year, 1882, and Jesse concluded to take four of his horses and go, so he told Bob Ford to get them ready and he and Bob would each ride one and lead another, thereby getting into Excelsior Springs where the meeting was to be held, with fresh and well conditioned horses, which would probably not be the case if they shipped them by train.
Bob told us there in the house where Jesse lay dead ( shot down by his hand ) the reason for the killing: "I knew that if ever he and I started on that 70 mile trip that I would never get there; that Jesse intended to kill me on the way. I could see it in his eyes as he was talking to me. He suspected me of intending to betray him, so the first chance I got, I shot him, as I knew it was either

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him or me." Bob's chance came on the 3rd of April, 1882. He, Jesse and Charlie had been out to the barn currying and watering the horses and returned to the house, and the day being warm for that time of the year, Jesse took off his coat ( a Prince Albert ) and unbuckling his belt with two pistols, lay them on the bed. He and Bob sat on the bed and Charlie sat in a chair near the door. Mary had been cleaning house and scrubbing, the day before, and in hanging the pictures back on the wall, had hung one of them, a cheap chromo, in a gilt frame, a little crooked. Jesse, noticing that the picture was hanging crooked, got up on a chair to straighten it. The chance that Bob had been waiting for had come.
Taking up one of Jesse's heavy pistols, he fired twice. Either shot would have been fatal. One in the base of the brain, and the other near the shoulder blade and through the lung.
Of course, the first thing to do was to identify the dead man, so Aunt Zerelda ( Jesse's mother who lived on the old home place near Kearney, Mo. ) was sent for. She looked at the dead man and turning to the Sheriff and the others in the room, said: "Gentlemen, you have made a mistake; that is not my son." She afterwards broke down and wept bitter tears of anguish. Although she had been expecting it for years, the blow, when it did come, was almost greater than she could bear.
Jesse James was dead, and buried in his mother's front yard near the little town of Kearney, Mo. Frank James, his brother and supposed associate in all the robberies that Jesse was accused of, surrendered in October,'82, and was in jail nearly four years and tried for every crime that he and Jesse were accused of, and came clear on every count, often assuming the burden of proof, himself.
Draw your own conclusions as to the guilt or innocence of Jesse - I could tell what I know, but you would doubtless say I was lying to save a comrade of Civil War days.
Of course, Jesse has been seen alive from time to time by cheap notoriety seekers. Once a cowboy came up from the Argentine and said that Jesse was ranching and doing well down there. When this report was sifted down, it was found that the man taken for Jesse was a younger son of an English lord.
A few years ago a banker in a West Texas town died, and the report was spread that he was Jesse James. More recently a fellow popped up claiming to be Jesse! How the heck do they get that way, loco weed, or what?
No! Jesse James was killed by Bob Ford on the 3rd of April, 1882, in St. Joseph, Mo., there were too many people who knew him well and came to identify him for there to be any possible doubt, so that is that. Frank died on February 19, 1915. Cole Younger died at his home in Lees Summit, Mo., March 21, 1917, just before

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we went to war with Germany. Had he lived, he intended to raise a regiment and go over. These are facts. No difference HOW I know, that I DO KNOW is sufficient.

JOHN YOUNGER
By FRANK DALTON

When the Civil War was ended the soldiers of the Confederate armies were told to lay down their arms and go home. Not so, however, with the men who had fought with Quantrell. We had not been regularly enrolled as Confederate soldiers, and although we had fought vigorously for the Southern cause, we had fought independent and were not recognized as regular Southern soldiers, hence we were outlawed and hunted down as common criminals. The Younger brothers, who lived in southern Missouri, were not allowed to come home, but had to hide away as best they could to keep from being caught and either sent to prison or executed. They, of course, sneaked in occasionally to visit their mother and sisters. ( Their father, Col. Henry Younger, had been assassinated by Yankees near the beginning of the war. ) It was on one of these visits that John Younger was reported to have been killed, March 17th, 1874.
Here is how it was ( I'm telling it for the first time ):
John had come home to be with his mother who was confined to her bed with malaria fever. The sheriff on being informed that he was home, came out from the county seat with two deputies to arrest him, and when the smoke cleared away he found himself with a broken arm caused by a pistol ball having passed through it.
The two deputies had gone yonder. John stayed at home as there was no one else on the place to do the chores and bring up the cows from the pasture; his two sisters being busy in the house with their sick mother. Allan Pinkerton's detective agency had undertaken to look for us as the rewards were rather tempting, and on the sheriff's arrival back in town he ran across four of these fellows and told them that John Younger was at home and what he had done to him and his deputies. Well, as it was their job to capture the Youngers, they got on their horses and started out. The Younger place was about 12 miles from town and as the detectives got a late start, evening was approaching when at last they came in sight of the house. They saw a young fellow over to the right of them about 200 yards or so, driving up a bunch of milk cows and decided that it might be a good idea to question him before going any further, so they left the road and started in that direction. ( The pistols of that time were of the cap and ball variety and took quite a while to load, so we usually carried plenty of loaded ones - "just in case," you know. A man caught with

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an empty pistol when he needed a loaded one was usually out of luck. So from six to eight pistols were considered a fairish amount to tote if you were expecting to meet up with trouble. ) Well, that part was all right, but instead of awaiting their approach as became a decent country boy when approached by the majesty of the law, this young rascal broke all precedents by charging full tilt in their direction with a gun in each hand and shooting like the dickens. Nothing in Pinkerton's book of rules to tell them what to do in a case of that kind, so they let nature take its course and turned tail and run like hell. When they got back to the timber one of them perhaps a little more brave than the rest, turned in the saddle and fired a single shot. The one shot was enough. The boy, who had not tried to hit them, although he could have killed all four of them if he had wanted to, fell from the saddle from the force of the heavy bullet.
There happened to be two other witnesses to this little play. The two were Cole and Bob Younger, who were coming home on a visit, and they arrived just in time to see John shot from his horse. Speaking to Bob as they rushed forward, Cole said, "Stop and see how bad John is hurt, Bob, and I'll ride on and attend to these fellows." John was, as Bob soon saw, shot in the left shoulder and not dangerously hurt, but the shock of the bullet had knocked him from his horse. He was carried into the house and put to bed by Bob and the two girls, where he stayed till he was able to travel. When he left he came to Texas where he had plenty of friends. The report was given out that he had been killed, which, as it was substantiated by the two Pinkerton men who got away from Cole ( he shot and killed two of the four ), was generally accepted as the truth. John came to Texas where he was for several years a peace officer under another name of course, and has led an honest and respected life. Little do the people think or realize that the erect, clear-eyed old man who is seen so often on the streets of various Texas towns is the former noted John Younger of Quantrell's band of Civil War days. He would have a hard time proving his identity, even should he wish to at this late day, as all the people who ever knew him as "John Younger" are long since dead and gone.
The leading papers of that day and time came out with various comments on his death, among the milder being ( after stating the manner of his killing which they had all wrong, of course ), "He was a perfect type of the genuine border desperado, and despite his age was the leader and guiding spirit of as ruthless a band of outlaws as the country has ever known." Another account had this to say about it: "John Younger, noted leader of the James and Younger band of outlaws and bandits, is laid low in death by the gallant forces of Allan Pinkerton. Now that the leader is gone the rest of the outlaw pack will shortly follow."

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But here is a paper that tells a different story. Needless to say, it was a paper printed in our own Southland. "John Younger, a boy still in his teens, is shot down and cruelly murdered by Pinkerton detectives while on a visit home to see his sick mother. Younger belonged to Quantrell's militia during the war, who are being hunted down and shot by organized bands of reward hungry brutes, for protecting their homes during the war."
And so it went on and on. The newspapers made the most of the chance they had to tell of the first one of Quantrell's men to be shot down by the forces of "law and order" since the war had closed. Later they were to have another chance to strut their stuff - much later - when Jesse James was killed. In the meantime the "life history" of John Younger was to be printed. It had about as much truth in it as had the account and manner of his death. Even his age, as well as the place of his birth were wrong.
We of Quantrell's militia have ever been a secretive bunch, and would tell nothing, so the writers of tales about us have had very little to go on in the way of facts, so they had to fall back on their imagination, but as that was usually in good working order they didn't need facts. Facts are sometimes bothersome things anyway in the making of a good story, so why use them? Or at least, such seemed to be the case with our biographers.

WRITER ANSWERS "TIMES" READER REGARDING JESSE JAMES' DEATH

FRANK DALTON DECLARES HE IDENTIFIED BODY OF NOTORIOUS SLAIN BANDIT

Proof Sheet of a Story I Wrote Two Years Ago in Reply to a Story About Jess in the Denver "Post."

A Longview reader of the Gladewater "Times" recently wrote a letter to the editor questionong the accuracy of the account of the death of Jesse James written by Frank Dalton and published in last week's issue of the "Times." Mr. Dalton was given the letter and his reply to the writer is printed below:

JESSE JAMES - DEAD OR ALIVE?

So Jesse James is alive again and is living in a small town in Nebraska this time, according to the Denver "Post." Let's see, how many times has Jesse been discovered since Bob Ford killed him in April, 1882. First he was reported to be ranching in the Argentine, and next we hear of him in Old Mexico where he is manager of a silver mine. Both times the person recognizing him is sworn to secrecy. Next he is found in a small western town where he is running

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a private bank, presumably started on the proceeds of his many bank and train robberies. He dies there and that ought to put an end to his activities, but instead of doing so it only seems to accelerate matters for in a short time - a very short time at that - he dies again and leaves a letter to his business partner to be opened and read at his grave in which he confesses to being Jesse James. Next he bobs up alive and well and proves his identity by an old negro woman who was the family nurse when Jesse was a baby.
I was in Fort Riley, Kan., when Bob Ford shot him on April 3, 1882, and as it was known that I had soldiered with him under Quantrell during the latter part of the Civil War, I was sent for to identify him and did so to the best of my ability and have always been positive ( and am yet for that matter ) that the man killed by Ford was Jesse James.
If the man in Nebraska is Jesse, why has he been silent for all these years? It seems unnecessary for Frank, after his surrender in the fall of '82, was tried for all the crimes that he and Jess were accused of and acquitted on every one, thus making it unnecessary for Jesse to longer remain in hiding, that is, if he was still living.
Frank and I were working in Ed Butler's theater ( The Standard ) in St. Louis when the report was given out that Frank had said that he could produce Jesse at any time under certain conditions, but Frank vigorously denied having made this statement and I am convinced that he did not. Aunt Zerelda ( Jesse's mother ) started all the trouble and doubt over the dead man being Jesse when she denied the identity of the man, saying, "Gentlemen, you have made a mistake; that is not my son."
She afterwards broke down, however, and in bitter tears of anguish admitted that it was him and gave as her reason for denial her desire to protect Frank, her other outlawed boy. She took the body to the little town of Kearney, Mo., with her and buried it in the front yard where it remained for several years, but was finally taken up and buried in the family lot in the cemetery at Liberty, the county seat of Clay county.
The Kansas City "Star" came out with a Bible quotation at the death of Jesse, "The name of the wicked shall rot." Following up with, "Already the name of James is offensive to the ears of all honest men, soon it will perish from the earth and be heard no more." It seems, however, that they were mistaken for as the years roll on and time passes his name is constantly brought before the public in one way or another, and greater becomes the opportunity for cheap notoriety seekers to strut their stuff.
Of the claims of this man in Nebraska, or others for that matter, I will say nothing. Let them go their way and get whatever satisfaction they may as they can harm no one by so doing. However, for

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me the Civil War with all the horrors of its aftermath is over, I hope, never to return.
I am, as far as I know, the last living man who soldiered under the "Black Flag" of Quantrell, but if Jesse James is alive I would like to see him for I knew him well and used to call him "friend."

Yours truly,
FRANK DALTON

"QUANTRELL"
By FRANK DALTON

In 1859 a young lawyer by the name of Nathaniel Hart, came to Lawrence, Kansas, and, opening an office, began the practice of his profession. The town of Lawrence was located on the Kaw, or Kansas River as it was called later, in what was then Kansas Territory, and about forty miles from the western line of Missouri. Young Hart had a brother who was attending a military school back home. He wrote and advised him to come to Lawrence, as it would be a good location in which to open up a school, for, of course, there were no public schools in that part of the country at that time.
So, upon his graduation, in the summer of 1860, young Charles came to Lawrence and opened a school. He was a mild-mannered and gentlemanly young fellow, liked by the scholars and respected by all who knew him. He continued his activities as teacher until 1862, although Nathaniel, his brother, left Lawrence in 1861, when war was declared, and went back to his Southern home where he joined the Confederate Army.
Lawrence was a hotbed of abolition and all who did not openly and vigorously espouse the Northern cause were looked on with suspicion. Indeed, so rabid was the stand taken by Jim Lane and other leaders that men suspected of being Southern sympathizers were often either taken out and shot or hung, or horse-whipped and told to get out of the country.
One evening in the spring of 1862, after school was out for the day, Jim Lane and some others of the leaders of the town, six altogether, came to the house where Hart was boarding and called him outside to question him. "Well, Hart, you know our stand on the slavery question as well as the rest of the things that brought on this war, and as you have never been heard to express your sentiments either way, we have come here tonight to find out how you stand, and to get you to take the oath of allegiance to the Northern cause."
Hart told them that he would like to remain neutral, and keep on teaching, as an education for the children was, in his opinion, of more importance than the war. "And as for the oath of allegiance to the Northern cause, my people are all in the South and a good many of

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them in the Confederate Army; so I cannot, and will not take your oath."
Hart was put in jail that night, and the next day he was taken out and tied to a tree in the center of the town's business street, where he was publicly whipped, after which he was told to leave the country. He then came to Missouri where, under the name of Wm. Quantrell, he organized "Quantrell's Militia." His military training came in handy now, as it made it possible for him to take a bunch of boys and build up the most perfect fighting organization that the Civil War produced on either side, and the "Black Flag" of Quantrell was more feared and dreaded by the "Yankees" along the Missouri and Kansas border than any other organization.
It was said that General Lee once made the remark that, given a half-dozen leaders like Quantrell, he could whip the North in less than six months. We took no prisoners; neither did any of us surrender, no difference what the odds were against us, although we paroled lots of prisoners on their promise to go home and quit the war. Our mode of attack whenever possible was to charge through the enemy lines, shooting as rapidly as possible and yelling like a lot of wild Indians. Yankee nerve, as a usual thing, couldn't stand much of that, and the battle was most always over before it got started. When a charge was not advisable, we usually harassed the enemy from ambush, shooting into their ranks until we got them demoralized, then we would charge in and either put them to rout or finish them. Sometimes though, they would be too many for us; then, after doing what damage we could, we would, ourselves, retreat.
Many are the stories told of cruelty practiced on both sides. Some of these stories are true, but the most are not. For instance, it was reported after the Battle of Bowers Mill that Cole Younger, in order to try out a new rifle that we had captured, lined up twelve of the twenty-two prisoners we had captured, and taking careful aim, fired, killing two of them and stunning the third. This was even printed in a supposed "history" of the Younger brothers. There is not a word of truth in it. I was there and know all that took place, and as the twenty-two men were all executed, it was done because they belonged to "Jennison's Jayhawkers," a bunch of rabid Kansas abolitionists ( "red legs," as we called them ), and our bitterest enemies. Jennison, however, retaliated by visiting the home of the James brothers and taking the women ( Aunt Zerelda, the mother of Frank and Jesse James, their sister, and my mother and sisters ), and after stripping them to the waist they tied them to trees and taking a blacksnake whip that they found in the stable they whipped them until they got tired and then they rode away, leaving the women and girls to be cut down and carried into the house by our negro slaves, who washed and bandaged their bleeding backs and bodies and put them

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to bed. Yes, sometimes the war was rather cruel! That we afterward exacted a terrible revenge for this inhuman treatment of our mothers and sisters goes without saying. We surrounded Jennison's men when they were in camp one night shortly after that and shot into them from the brush until we ran out of ammunition.
It was said afterwards that we killed or disabled over two-thirds of them. And so it went. First one side being the aggressor and then the other.
The Northern troops burned our town of Lexington, Mo., to the ground, and we retaliated by burning Lawrence, Kansas. They raided a mule-breeder's farm near Bowling Green, Mo., and got away with over 200 valuable mules. We raided the picket line of Fort Leavenworth, and after killing the soldiers on guard, stole over 400 cavalry horses and had to swim the Missouri River with them to get away, which we did under fire from nearly half the soldiers in the fort. The only thing that saved us from getting killed was that it was an exceptionally dark night and drizzling rain. As it was we lost seven men out of the twenty-five that we had when we took to the water. We got into Quantrell's camp, near Weston, Mo., a little after daylight, with 396 head of good cavalry horses; besides we had lost several in crossing the river.
In the spring of 1864 we decided to go South and after taking our women-folks to Westport, four miles south of Kansas City, for safety, we headed toward Southern Missouri, and after the Battle of Belmont, crossed over into Kentucky, where Quantrell was reported to have died of fever, caused from wounds he received in battle. The report was even believed by our friends for a time, until most of them learned different. What really did become of him has never been told, as he, being the leader of our organization during the war, would have been specially sought after had it been known that he was alive. However, not long after the war ended, a man, accompanied by his wife and little daughter, opened up a school in a small town in Central Texas, where he remained for several years. It was known that he had been with Quantrell during the war, for several of us visited him from time to time, but who he was has always remained a mystery. It was known, however, that Quantrell was married in Lawrence, Kansas, near the beginning of the war and that he had one child, a girl. Add to this the fact that Quantrell - or to use his right name, Charles Hart - was a school teacher, and lots of the people living in the small Texas town believed the mild-mannered and gentlemanly teacher to have been the once feared and dreaded "Quantrell" of Civil War days.

Yours truly,
(Signed) FRANK DALTON

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Gladewater, Texas,
March 6th, 1935.

MY DEAR MR. CRITTENDEN:

I received your letter and card this morning and was glad to hear that your Mss. has been turned over to the printers. It don't take long to get them out if the printer knows his stuff and of course most of them do. I have had several small books printed myself. Texas and Frontier History mostly. The picture of Mrs. Samuels is, I guess, the same one you have, taken full length and does not show her features very well. In my story about John Younger I did not mention the date of his supposed killing. ( I never mention dates or locations if it can be avoided. ) The rest of the story is substantially correct. He was killed on the 17th of March, 1874, in St. Clair county, Mo., not far from the little town of Roscoe. Cole died March 21st, 1917, at Lees Summit, Mo. Frank James died Feb. 15th or 19th, 1915. Jess, as you know, was killed in St. Jo on April 3,'82. Jim Cummins died in the spring ( I don't know the date ) 1929, at the Confederate Home near Higginsville, Mo. Bill Anderson ( supposed to be killed in Ray Co., Mo., during the war ) died about six years ago in Brown Co., Texas, where he had a small ranch, and had been living since shortly after the war. Quantrell was supposed to be killed in Kentucky on our raid through that state in 1865. I believe I sent you a pamphlet about Quantrell. It is correct in every detail, but I omitted to state his age or place of his birth. He was born April 27th, 1836, at Lexington, KY. His father was a Baptist preacher, as was also Robt. James, the father of Frank and Jess. By the way, Crittenden, there is a fellow knocking around the country claiming to be Jess. The Denver "Post" of Sunday, Feb. 24th, had an article about him, but so far I have not been able to get a copy so I am going to send to Denver for one. I usually pay no attention to these stories, but this fellow is exhibiting himself as Jesse James and I believe it would be a good idea to stop him. I may be up there in a few weeks as we have some more business in K. C., and when I come I will call and see you. We ( Dr. Travis and I ) are in the oil game a little down here and it keeps us on the jump, but we always have time to write or visit. Anything I can tell you about the "old days" I gladly will, and I think I am as well posted as any one can be, for I am 87 years old and joined Quantrell at Blackwater, Mo., on March 8,'63, the day I was 15.

Yours truly,
FRANK DALTON.

Gladewater, Texas.

Story about "Q" in "All Western Mag." of April. No good, but read it! H - ain't it. Why don't they let us alone?

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THE "JAMES GANG"

Gladewater, Texas,
March 26th,'35.

DEAR MR. CRITTENDEN:

Your letter out of the office and in reply to your questions, will tell you, "Yes, Bob Ford was killed in Crede, Colorado. The how of it was this - Your father had pardoned and restored to citizenship a fellow by the name of Dick Liddle ( or Little ) so he could appear as a witness at one of Frank James' trials. Dick and Bob Ford went to Crede and opened a saloon and gambling house. What became of Liddle, I don't know and is of no importance. One night a drunk by the name of Kelly was ejected from Ford's place by a bouncer for abusing one of the females of the dance hall ( of Ford's place ). He went to his shack and got his six shooter, came back and killed Ford. He was tried and given a sentence of 85 years in the Colorado penitentiary, but Governor Waite (?) the populist Governor pardoned him. I will say here that Frank and I stopped one night at the Blossom House in Kansas City ( across from the old depot ) and Ford was in the third room from us, but Frank did not try, although we talked about it, and you know the incentive was strong to injure him in any way. As for Charlie Ford, I heard that he had killed himself at their home near Richmond (?), Missouri. Another report has it that he died some place in Arizona.* Which is correct, I do not know as I have paid no attention to him. What year Bob was killed,** I have forgotten but think it was in the latter 80s or early 90s, not later than 1892, I know and think it was earlier. Anyway, Kelly, who killed Bob, was himself killed in Oklahoma City in 1893 (?) by a policeman by the name of Joe Burnette. Joe went to Pawhuska in the Osage nation and was killed by an Indian policeman by name of Bud Thurston. Bud was killed by Jim Courtright of Fort Worth, Texas. Luke Short killed Courtright, and there you have it all - one killing followed another. I would go into details but it would take too long, but these are the abbreviated facts, most of which I know of personally and the rest from reliable sources.

* - Bob Ford was killed by a drunken Irishman by name of Kelly in his, Ford's saloon, June 8th, 1892. - H.H.C.

** - The writer's recollection is, Charlie Ford died in Arizona of consumption. - H.H.C.

Yours truly,
FRANK DALTON.

P. S. - In regard to the killings I speak of, there is nothing strange about it, for they were "gun fighters all," and with the exception of Kelly, were killed in drunken brawls. Kelly, after he was released from prison, came to Oklahoma City, where he was engaged in dealing

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faro in one of the gambling houses. Early one morning about 2 or 3 o'clock, he had closed the game and was on his way to where he was staying - bank roll in one overcoat pocket and six-shooter in the other, when Joe Burnette, who had but recently been put on the police force and didn't know Kelly, stopped him to question him. Kelly, thinking perhaps that he was a highwayman, as the police wore no uniforms, shot through his overcoat pocket and hit Burnette in the leg, breaking it. As Burnette was falling he shot Kelly through the heart, killing him instantly. Joe Burnette afterwards attended an Indian pageant at Pawhusky in the Osage nation where he got into a drunken fight with some other grafters, and Bud Thurston, an Indian policeman, killed him in the line of duty. And so it went. Yes, things were rather primitive in those days. Sorry I can't give you date of Ford's killing,* but I have forgotten it.

FRANK DALTON.

* - It is not surprising that Frank Dalton, 87 years of age, should not carry these dates in his head. - H.H.C.

45th_Johnny · Oct 11, 2017

Kace, thank you for posting this.

Kace · Oct 11, 2017

45th_Johnny said:
Kace, thank you for posting this.

You Are More Than Welcome 45!

Rebel - KGC · Oct 12, 2017

It IS GREAT info! J. Frank Dalton... a WRITER...? WOW! Read somewhere that JFD was an older brother to the boys of the DALTON Gang... dunno. ALL were killed except for the youngest, Emmett; "E" spent time in Prison for murder (which he did not do); my wife is descended from "E", so, we have "JJ" in the family; FUNNY thing is... wife & I met in a MAX SECURITY PRISON in Virginia... she was a Corrections Case Manager/Counselor & I was Treatment Programs Supervisor/Top Administrator On Duty (Warden, as scheduled 7am-3pm or 3-11pm). LOL!

Kace · Oct 12, 2017

Rebel - KGC said:
It IS GREAT info! J. Frank Dalton... a WRITER...? WOW! Read somewhere that JFD was an older brother to the boys of the DALTON Gang... dunno. ALL were killed except for the youngest, Emmett; "E" spent time in Prison for murder (which he did not do); my wife is descended from "E", so, we have "JJ" in the family; FUNNY thing is... wife & I met in a MAX SECURITY PRISON in Virginia... she was a Corrections Case Manager/Counselor & I was Treatment Programs Supervisor/Top Administrator On Duty (Warden, as scheduled 7am-3pm or 3-11pm). LOL!

That's funny and ironic how you and your wife met!! Several generations later and both of you are in official capacities on the other side of the law at a Federal Prison! lol!!

JFD was a Very Good Writer and the fact he kept handwritten journals on his experiences his whole life is a Real Treasure!!

I'm Thankful that JFD and H.H. Crittenden got together and recorded his journals in a reputable, documented publication.

I have more information on JFD that I'll put up a little later that is also documented. Before I post that I'd like everyone that has an interest in this topic to have a chance to read his part of the Crittenden Memoirs, add to it, comment or ask questions so I can make sure and include everything that I can in the Rest of the Story. I'm interested in what others can add to this. We might as well finish this part of the JFD/JWJ saga.

JFD lived a fascinating life that very few people could ever relate to that's for sure.

JFD, By The Grace of God was Born in the South and came of age during the Civil War, lived in a central area of the Civil War, was related to several key players of that era, joined up as a young teenager with an infamous Southern Guerrilla Leader and not only lived a long life but had the forethought and gift of the pen to keep detailed journals chronicling historic events...

WOW is Right!!

Please Add Anything At All You Would Like...

Kace

Rebel - KGC · Oct 12, 2017

LOL! Just a CORRECTION... Wife & I met at a Virginia STATE "Pen", not a "FED"; FED Pens are too "nice" (MHO). I am now retired; wife went on to be a Counselor/"Juvie" Corrections Magistrate (Troubled Kids)... quit years ago, too. ANYWAY, DALTON was a right interesting person.

Rebel - KGC · Oct 12, 2017

Kace said:
Hey Reb or Whoever Is Savvy in Masonic Levels....And KGC Ranks

This is from a long ago memory so I could very well be wrong but it would be nice to have the correct information here.

Is:

A 32nd° Scottish Mason the same as a 3rd° Mason which is a Master Mason? Basically the Highest Degree of the Masons?

A 33rd° Scottish Rite Mason is an Honor Bestowed on a 32nd° Mason By Lodge Brothers and allows the Master Mason to go into other areas of Masons?

A 33rd° Scottish Rite Mason sits At The Head of the Masonic Supreme Council and Only Gets There When Another 33rd° Dies?

Is there any difference in Scottish Rite and Southern Jurisdiction Freemasonry?

You mentioned Jesse James was a 2nd° KGC (State Level)... What Level Is That and What does that mean? How high do KGC levels go?

I've got him listed as Comptroller as well of the KGC. I thought that meant he would of been on the Council, Holding that position. Am I wrong?

I'm on the JEW and Joseph Vaughn Trail...I'll put that on another post.

I stayed down here another nite, maybe two...My amazing guide is available longer and it's storming harder at home than it is here. Might as well learn some more stuff!!

Thanks,
Kace

Gonna answer as the Knights of the Golden Circle; based om my R & I... there THREE Degrees 1st-3rd; LOCAL, STATE & NATIONAL LEVEL. 1st Degree is of the MILITARY/IRON FIST... LOCAL Degree; Texas was BIG on this degree, as the Texans (Knights/GC) were ready to invade MEXICO, before the CONFEDERATE WAR; plans were changed on the Texas STATE Level... Texan REBELS! MEAN! JJ was of the 2nd Degree State Level and Comptroller of KGC $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ in the SOUTH; the Degree has a name, & will have to look it up. 3rd Degree National LEVEL was HQ in NYC & was composed of 5-7 WEALTHY old men; it also has a name, that I need to "check my "Folders/Files"; that is why you see "357" (or so I have been told). The Order of American Knights (aka OAK) was a higher degree "system" of "movers & shakers" that wanted to unite the country after the CW; Railroad Barons, Steel Barons, etc, etc. OAK owned banks, stage "lines", RAILROADS, etc. Guess who went after 'em...? JJ & Gangs, Confederados, Desperados, ex-Rebel Outlaws... (singing... "Johnny Yuma, was a REBEL... a bad, bad, man"). Ex-Reb; Johnny Yuma... read the book, watched the TV show; OFTEN sang that song! Heh! Gen. John Silby of TX had his IRON BRIGADE...

Rebel - KGC · Oct 12, 2017

Kace said:
Hey Reb or Whoever Is Savvy in Masonic Levels....And KGC Ranks

This is from a long ago memory so I could very well be wrong but it would be nice to have the correct information here.

Is:

A 32nd° Scottish Mason the same as a 3rd° Mason which is a Master Mason? Basically the Highest Degree of the Masons?

A 33rd° Scottish Rite Mason is an Honor Bestowed on a 32nd° Mason By Lodge Brothers and allows the Master Mason to go into other areas of Masons?

A 33rd° Scottish Rite Mason sits At The Head of the Masonic Supreme Council and Only Gets There When Another 33rd° Dies?

Is there any difference in Scottish Rite and Southern Jurisdiction Freemasonry?

You mentioned Jesse James was a 2nd° KGC (State Level)... What Level Is That and What does that mean? How high do KGC levels go?

I've got him listed as Comptroller as well of the KGC. I thought that meant he would of been on the Council, Holding that position. Am I wrong?

I'm on the JEW and Joseph Vaughn Trail...I'll put that on another post.

I stayed down here another nite, maybe two...My amazing guide is available longer and it's storming harder at home than it is here. Might as well learn some more stuff!!

Thanks,
Kace

Gonna answer as the Knights of the Golden Circle; based on my R & I... there THREE Degrees 1st-3rd; LOCAL, STATE & NATIONAL LEVEL. 1st Degree is of the MILITARY/IRON FIST/Hand... LOCAL Degree; Texas was BIG on this degree, as the Texans (Knights/GC) were ready to invade MEXICO, before the CONFEDERATE WAR; plans were changed on the Texas STATE Level... Texan REBELS! MEAN! JJ was of the 2nd Degree State Level and Comptroller of KGC $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ in the SOUTH; the Degree has a name, & will have to look it up. 3rd Degree National LEVEL was HQ in NYC & was composed of 5-7 WEALTHY old men; it also has a name, that I need to "check my "Folders/Files"; that is why you see "357" (or so I have been told). The Order of American Knights (aka OAK) was a higher degree "system" of "movers & shakers" that wanted to unite the country after the CW; Railroad Barons, Steel Barons, etc, etc. OAK owned banks, stage "lines", RAILROADS, etc. Guess who went after 'em...? JJ & Gangs, Confederados, Desperados, ex-Rebel Outlaws... (singing... "Johnny Yuma, was a REBEL... a bad, bad, man"). Ex-Reb; Johnny Yuma... read the book, watched the TV show; OFTEN sang that song! Heh! Gen. John Silby of TX had his IRON BRIGADE...

franklin · Oct 12, 2017

Kace said:
I Thought If Anyone Hadn't Read This...It's Really Interesting.. Its From J.Frank Dalton Before He Decided To Be Jesse James..Outlaw.

Kace

"The Crittenden Memoirs" ( New York: G. P. Putnam's Sons, 1936 - Fully Illustrated, xvi + 17-542 pages ) - compiled by H. H. Crittenden.

CONTENTS:

vii - Preface
ix - Foreword
xiii - Illustrations
17 - Thomas T. Crittenden
87 - John B. Henderson
88 - William Logan Crittenden
99 - Henry Clay
102 - John J. Crittenden
110 - Civil War in Missouri
119 - Thomas T. Crittenden
129 - Outlawry in Missouri
375 - Memoirs of H. H. Crittenden - Friends and Acquaintances
513 - Addenda - Crittendens and Murrays
531 - Index

( from "Preface," page vii ):

"The writer's purpose in compiling this publication is to preserve for History's sake certain events that have transpired during Governor Thomas T. Crittenden's lifetime and his administration as Governor of Missouri, as recorded in his AUTOBIOGRAPHY; his course in RIDDING THE STATE OF THE 'JAMES GANG.' Also the personal Memoirs of H. H. Crittenden, including a chapter on SOCIAL WASHINGTON. . ."

( from "Foreword," page ix ):

"The 'Crittenden Memoirs,' here edited by Mr. Henry Huston Crittenden and submitted to the public, presents the reminiscences of an eminent Missourian - Thomas Theodore Crittenden - the outstanding Missouri member of a family long distinguished in the history of Kentucky and Missouri. Thomas Theodore Crittenden (1832-1909) was a grandson of John Crittenden (a major in the Revolutionary War), a nephew of John Jordan Crittenden (United States senator and governor of Kentucky), and a brother of William Logan Crittenden, who lost his life in the Lopez Expedition of 1851.
. . . A prominent central Missouri lawyer, lieutenant colonel of a Missouri regiment of cavalry in the service of the Union during the Civil War, attorney general of Missouri, congressman, governor of the state, and United States consul general to Mexico in Cleveland's administration, Thomas T. Crittenden's active public life covered more than half a century.
He came to Missouri in 1857, first locating at Lexington in Lafayette county on the western border of the State. At the close of the Civil War he moved to Warrensburg, where he formed a law partnership with Francis Marion Cockrell, later United States Senator from Missouri. He served two terms in Congress and in 1880 was elected governor of Missouri. . ."

Biographical Notes on the persons mentioned above:

John Crittenden (died March 30, 1806) - A major in the Revolutionary War. He was the father of Henry C. Crittenden (1792-1834) and the paternal grandfather of Thomas T. Crittenden (1832-1909).

John Jordan Crittenden (Sept. 10, 1786 - July 26, 1863) - United States senator and governor of Kentucky. He was an uncle of Thomas T. Crittenden (1832-1909).

Henry C. Crittenden (May 24, 1792 - Dec. 31, 1834) and Anna Maria Allen (Aug. 5, 1802 - April 25, 1877) - The parents of Thomas T. Crittenden (1832-1909).

William Logan Crittenden (May 31, 1823 - Aug. 16, 1851 ) - Lost his life in the Lopez Expedition of 1851. He was a brother of Thomas T. Crittenden (1832-1909).

Thomas Theodore Crittenden (Jan. 1, 1832 - May 29, 1909) - Governor of Missouri. He was born on a farm near Shelbyville, Shelby County, Kentucky. His wife was Caroline ("Carrie") Wheeler Jackson (Aug. 1, 1839 - Jan. 27, 1917).

Henry Huston Crittenden (born Nov. 28, 1859) - A son of Thomas T. Crittenden (1832-1909).

Thomas Theodore Crittenden, Jr. (Dec. 23, 1863 - July 31, 1938) - A son of Thomas T. Crittenden (1832-1909).

Below is the complete text of writings of Frank Dalton (aka J. Frank Dalton) (March 8, 1848 - August 15, 1951) which H. H. Crittenden included in "The Crittenden Memoirs." Dalton's contribution to "The Crittenden Memoirs" is comprised of 20 pages of text (pages 355-374) which appear at the very end of the sub-section (pages 129-374) titled "Ridding Missouri of the 'James Gang' - Death of Jesse James - Outlawry in Missouri":

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OUTLAWRY - FRANK DALTON'S PEN PICTURES

FRANK DALTON, now living in Texas, who rode with Quantrill and the "James Boys" in the 70s as one of the band, gives pen pictures of the Missouri Outlaws. He visited old haunts in his native State, Missouri, in February, 1935, and appeared quite active in spite of his 87 years.
Though previously unknown to the writer [H. H. Crittenden], he called at the office to see my brother, Thomas T. Crittenden Jr. [1863-1938], entirely unaware a history of the activities of the "James Gang" and other outlaws was being compiled by the writer.
The following letters written by Frank Dalton for a Texas publication will no doubt prove interesting to the general public which is at all familiar with the terror created by the Missouri Outlaws.

H. H. C. [Henry Huston Crittenden]

"SLAVE SALE"

By FRANK DALTON

Did you ever attend a slave sale? No, I don't suppose you ever did, for there are but few people now living who are old enough to remember that far back. I attended two, one in 1858 in Atlanta, Ga., and one in 1860 in Natchez, Miss., where over two thousand negroes were sold. This sale lasted ten days and there were planters there to either buy or sell slaves from nearly every State in the South. The sale in Natchez was an annual event and during it the town entertained lavishly, with dancing and other forms of amusement, parties and plays for the guests, with the theatre putting on the best plays and talent they could procure. Florence Nightingale, the Booths, Lily Langtry, Adeline Patti ( the elder ) and hosts of other leading actors and actresses now long since forgotten, were on hand to entertain the Elite of Dixieland during the sale. During this time hotels and taverns were filled to capacity, and the homes of the aristocracy were often crowded with out of town friends and notables. The raised platform on which the sale is to be held is located on the court house square and surrounded

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with plank seats that are higher in the back than in front, like the seats at a race track or ball park, and with awnings to protect the guests from sun or rain. There is a row of booths with curtains and upholstered seats directly in front of the sale platform for the notables who are to be present. The seats are all free, of course, but for the use of men who are there either to buy or sell slaves. Very few women are present, as a sale is no place for the women or children. I was there and in one of the booths with papa, who was a State senator of our home State at that time. He had also been an officer in the Mexican War. I was 12 years old, but although 75 years have passed since then I remember every detail that came under my observation. The sale opened with a parade of the 2,000 slaves that were to be sold at 10 o'clock, May 1st, 1860. The parade lasted nearly an hour, after which the auctioneer, a venerable grey-haired man who looked more like a preacher than an auctioneer of slaves, gave a talk about the slaves that were to be sold. By this time it was nearing noon so a recess was taken till one o'clock, when the selling began. The first to be sold was a block of 50 plantation negroes, all males and ranging from 20 to 30 years old. They were of medium size, mostly 5 feet 6 or 8 inches in height, and weighing around 150 or 160 pounds. They were clothed only in a breech cloth and were made to jump and bend to show that they were sound, after which their eyes and teeth were examined and they were looked over for blemishes, much as you would look over a bunch of horses or mules you were intending to buy. Bidding was rather brisk on this bunch and they were sold to a planter from Virginia for $800 apiece, or $40,000 for the lot of fifty.
The next to be offered was a bunch of 25 female cotton negroes. Bidding was not quite so brisk on these and the same planter who had bought the males was the highest bidder and got them for $500 apiece, or $12,500 for the lot, which was considered very low, as they were all young and husky. The next was a lot of 30 "trundle bed trash," males and females from 5 to 12 years old. They were bid on and sold to the same planter who had bought the other two lots. The sale price of these was $100 apiece, which was a fair price - $3,000 for the lot. By this time it was getting late, nearly 6 o'clock, so the sale was closed for the day, to be opened at 9 o'clock the next day.
After supper the people, especially the younger ones, came out in great numbers and by dark the streets were crowded with people who were out for a good time, while the older ones proceeded to one of the numerous theatres or sought other places of indoor amusement. My father and I went to a dance that was given in honor of the Governor of Mississippi.

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The next morning at 9 o'clock the sale opened again with a block of 25 "timber," or saw mill negroes. A husky lot, these, with not a one under six feet and most of them taller even than that, and weighing from 185 to 235 pounds. Zulus and Matabeles, these, with three Kaffirs to top the bunch, than which there is no more perfect specimens of physical manhood anywhere on earth. These negroes sold for $1,500 each to a saw mill man from Georgia. And so the sale went on from day to day, with blocks from 10 to 100 slaves being sold till the bulk of the two thousand were disposed of. The "house" negroes, or servants are always held till the last and so it was in this case. On the last two days of the sale cooks, laundresses, waiters, maids and personal servants were offered for sale. These were all trained to whatever they were to do, and in most cases brought a far better price than the common field negro, or laborer. The servants and house slaves are usually picked from the hottentot and bushman tribes, as they are more docile and easier managed than the bigger and fiercer tribes, such as the Kaffir or Matabele.
Well, I have taken you to a slave sale and shown how it was worked. As I said in the commencement of this little story, I have seen two sales, and I vividly remember both of them. They were much the same, excepting that there were more slaves sold at the one I saw in Natchez. The harrowing heart-breaking incidents depicted by most writers on this subject were entirely absent at both places. In fact, the negroes seemed to enjoy themselves all through the sale, and except while on the platform were singing and having the time of their lives. No, the negro thrives on excitement.

Yours truly,
(Signed ) FRANK DALTON

THE YOUNGER BROTHERS

By FRANK DALTON

The Younger family consisted of Colonel Henry Younger who was assassinated near the beginning of the Civil War; a mother, and several daughters, one of whom married Louis Dalton and became the mother of the Dalton Boys who were killed or captured in a bank holdup in Coffeyville, Kansas, on the 5th day of October, 1892. There were 15 of the Dalton children, only four of them ever went wrong, the rest being respected and honest citizens. But this is a Younger story, so let's get along. There were five boys, Thomas Coleman, or "Cole" as he was more commonly called; John, who was reported killed not long after the close of the war; James, who accidentally shot and killed himself after being paroled from

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prison; Robert Emmet who died in prison, and Richard Ewing, who died near the commencement of the war.
Of these, two were with Quantrell the last two years or so of the war. These two were Cole and John. Cole joined Quantrell in '62. John joined in March '63, when he was 15 years old. They both stayed with Quantrell till the war was over and Quantrall's men disbanded, which they did in Louisiana in October 1865. Jim and Bob were with Quantrell off and on, but not steady. Jim was a scout in General Price's army most of the time during the last two years of the war. After the war ( October '65 ) Gen. Joe Shelby of Missouri came through Quantrell's camp in Louisiana with a bunch of men on their way to Mexico to fight with Maximilian who wanted to be emperor down there. Cole and John, as well as a few others of Quantrell's men joined him and went along. Things were not satisfactory, however, so after a few battles and skirmishes the most of Shelby's men came back, Cole and John among them. The Youngers split away from the rest of the men after crossing the Rio Grande and made the trip across Texas alone. They were stopping one night at a ferryman's house on the Sabine river when about 8 o'clock in the evening, a girl about seventeen years old, rode up and said that her brother's plantation house, about six miles down the river, was surrounded by a band of 60 or 70 negroes, led by a couple of white men. They had already set fire to the barns and cotton gin before she had sneaked through them and gotten away. Her brother and his wife and three small children were barricaded in the house and were managing to hold them off, but he could not do so for long as he had but little ammunition. There were eight men stopping there at the ferry that night, all of them ex-Confederate soldiers, and all, of course, well armed, as people had to be to live in that part of the country at that time. We left the girl in charge of the ferryman's wife, and, guided by the ferryman who knew the country, we set out. The moon came up just before we started and by the time we got there, was giving plenty of light to see to shoot by. The Ku Klux Klan was organized shortly after that and Cole and John Younger stayed in it till the spring of '67, when Bob and Jim joined them. It was getting along late in the spring and John decided, as he had not been home since the close of the war, to risk a trip home to see how the folks were getting along. He knew that the house was being closely watched for either he or his brothers, but decided to risk a short visit any way. When he got home and found his mother sick and no one on the place but the girls, and they busy in the house with their sick mother, of course he had to stay and look after things. Cole got to worrying about letting the boy go home alone, and he and Bob started back to help him out if he

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should get into trouble, as the country back in Missouri was swarming with detectives and other reward hunters. It's a good thing they came back too, for they arrived just in the nick of time, as told in another part of the story. Jim Younger stayed on till Texas was allowed to elect their own officers again, when, the need of the KKK being over, they disbanded. After the reported death of John Younger, Cole and Bob came back to Texas. They made several trips over the trail with cattle, and on one occasion, they bought a herd of 2,500 and drove it up themselves. The James boys were said to have been with them on that trip which was not so. Frank James was running a store in Louisiana at that time, and Jesse had a string of race horses. It was while in Abilene, Kansas, after one of these trail trips that they met Charley Pitts. Pitts had been with Quantrell during the war and this was their first meeting since. After talking about old times for a while, Pitts told them he had drifted north after the war to get away from reward hunters, and among other places he had visited was a small town in Minnesota by the name of Northfield where Butler had a private bank. Ben F. Butler had been a general in the Northern army during the war and had made himself obnoxious to the South by his tendency to "confiscate" everything in sight. He was reputed to be immensely wealthy at the close of the war, and Pitts said that there was anywhere from three to four hundred thousand dollars always on hand in the Northfield bank.
"I already have two men to go, Bill Chadwell and Clell Miller, you boys know them both, they were with Quantrell when we were, and with you three ( Jim was along with Cole and Bob on this trip ) it will be easy." "But how about finding our way back from up there if anything happens to you? There are none of us who have ever been much farther north than St. Jo, and only that far a few times during the war." Cole was a little dubious, although he had no scruples about stealing from Butler, for as he looked at it, it would be taking what he had stolen from the South during the war.
At last, Bob, the last to be convinced, gave in and they started.
On arriving at Northfield they found a fair going on and the town full of people, and decided to wait till the fair was over. So they proceeded to have a good time, which meant in their case to get good and gloriously drunk, with the inevitable result. "Come on, what's the use of waiting?" "We're here to rob old 'Spoons' Butler's bank and let's get into action!" This from Bill Chadwell, who was part Indian. Clell Miller, Cole and Jim Younger went in the bank and Bob, Pitts and Chadwell stayed out to keep a look-out and watch the horses. All might have went well but for the cashier, Haywood. When told to put up his hands, instead of complying, he got scared and tried to hide under a table. Miller, thinking

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the fellow had gotten under there to pull a gun, stooped down and shot him, killing him instantly. This shot immediately attracted attention, for unlike most of our Texas towns of that time, a gun shot in town was of rare occurrence. The boys made it to their horses and managed to mount, but the fight was on. Two of them, Charlie Pitts and Clell Miller were killed almost at once. Bill Chadwell's horse was shot from under him and he rolled under a house where he stayed till night, when he made his way back to Texas. As he was not known personally up there in that country, that was easy. It was made easier still, for a strange man was found near the fallen horse and as he had been shot to death it has always been believed that he was Chadwell. Even the Youngers thought so. Not so strange after all, for during a fair a town is always full of strangers. Just someone who had been hit by a stray bullet. Chadwell died in 1911 on the Mississippi river below Vicksburg in a shanty boat. He had become a fisherman. Bob Younger was shot through the lung and through the jaw. He died in prison. After getting out of the town of Northfield, the boys were bewildered. Pitts, their guide, was killed and they didn't know where or which direction to go. Besides, the whole country was aroused and up in arms looking for them. They were finally surrounded in the swamps near Mankato, by literally thousands of angry people. With no chance to break through and escape, and Bob at the point of death from his wounds, Cole at last decided to surrender. Tying his shirt which had once been white, to a stick, he waved it in token of surrender when a sheriff and about fifty of the braver of the men came in to get them. Up to this time their identity was not known by anyone in that part of the country, but it was supposed that they were just amateurs. Well, the play all the way through, from the start to the finish bore out that impression. When the people found out that they had captured three of the noted Younger Brothers they were treated with marked respect, for even the people up north felt in sympathy with them and hated the way they had been so cruelly wronged, both during and after the war. Bob's wounds were given careful attention by a doctor who was with the posse, and he was put in a hack with plenty of blankets and with Cole and Jim on either side of his bed the start was made to Mankato and two long years behind prison bars. I will say here that neither Cole nor Jim were handcuffed, nor ironed in any way, but on their promise not to attempt to escape were allowed to be free so they could attend to their brother Bob. They were finally tried and given a life term in the Stillwater penitentiary.
The rest is history and too familiar, and too recent occurrences for me to repeat here. Bob died in prison. Cole and Jim were paroled and stayed for a while in Minnesota where Jim accidentally

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shot and killed himself while loading a pistol. Cole was finally given a full pardon and came back to Missouri to make his home. He died in Lee's Summit, Missouri, on the 21st day of March, 1917, just before the United States went into the World War. Had he lived he intended to raise a regiment and go over. The things I tell about in this story are facts. It is of no difference how I know. That I do know is sufficient.

Yours truly,
FRANK DALTON.

THE MEN OF QUANTRELL
By FRANK DALTON

When the Civil war was over,
And the South had laid down their arms
And came back to wives and sweethearts,
To their villages and farms.

Quantrell's men were classed as criminals,
We had not been mustered in
To the regular Southern armies,
We were a band of outlawed men.

Hunted down and shot like wild things,
Like a coyote, wolf or bear;
Chased from one state to another,
Hunted, hounded everywhere.

Not a crime so dark or fiendish,
Nor an act so mean or low,
But 'twas charged to the men of Quantrell,
"Yes, it must be them, you know."

And when the war was over
And we'd scattered o'er the land,
Here and there arose a rumor,
"Yes, he's one of Quantrell's band."

Some were chased and killed or captured,
Others ran or hid away,
But it's time the Truth was spoken,
We are feeble, old and gray.

Let us tell our simple story,
How we fought to shield our homes
From the thugs and border ruffians,
Tho we had to fight alone.

Some made good while others didn't,
Some gained wealth and honor too,
Others took the "Owl Hoot" trail,
That there was nothing else to do.

But no matter what their station,
Or how well be became known,
The cloud of "65" was present
And our names were not our own.

But our secret well was guarded
By the men who knew us well,
"Quantrell's oath" took care of that,
"What you know don't ever tell."

Sincerely, Philip K. Kromer

Dear Readers:

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MY ADVENTURES WITH JESSE JAMES
By FRANK DALTON

In looking back on the stirring days of the Civil War and the hectic times of reconstruction immediately following, my memory oft times plays curious pranks, and some of the most tragic and vital occurrences are forgotten entirely, while other and more trivial happenings stand out as if of recent occurrence. However, this is not a narrative of the Civil War or even my part in it, as that has all been told over and over, and by abler pens, perhaps, than mine. There are lots of incidents of those days, however, that have never been told at all or greatly misrepresented. This was unavoidable, as we, who knew the truth, were necessarily silent and for obvious reasons, while the chroniclers of that time took the few facts they could muster and let their imagination do the rest. As a whole the men of Quantrell were a secretive bunch and would tell nothing. But the need of secrecy has passed as to the things I shall tell about here, to-wit: Who and what was Quantrell? Why was Jesse James killed? Why was it thought by many that the man killed by Bob Ford was not Jesse James? Why did Aunt Zerelda ( Jesse's mother ) at first deny that the murdered man was her boy? These things have never been told at all, or grossly misrepresented in the telling.
Quantrell's right name was Charles Hart, and he was engaged in teaching school at Lawrence, Kan., when the war started. Being a mild and tolerant man, he counseled moderation in the treatment of people suspected of being Southern sympathizers, who were often either shot or hung, if they should not swear the oath of allegiance to the northern cause. This would not do in Lawrence, however, which was an unreasonable hotbed of abolition. So Hart was tied to a tree and horsewhipped.

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Some there were who wanted to "hang the damn rebel sympathiser." Milder counsel prevailed and after the whipping he was turned loose and told to get out of the county, which he did, coming to Missouri, where he organized "Quantrell's Militia," a band of boys too young to enlist in the Southern armies for the most part, but big enough to ride and shoot, as the Yankees often found out to their sorrow. Our duties were to patrol the country and guard our homes. I enlisted at Blackwater, Mo., March 8th, 1863, the day I was 15 years old. There were several though, that were younger than I was. In the summer of '63 a band of 322 of us rode into the town of Lawrence and burned the town. That is everything except Bowersock's Mill which we left standing, as we thought it wouldn't be long till Price or some of them would capture Kansas, and if they did a good grist mill might come in handy.
I don't know why the real reason for the killing of Jesse James was never made public for Bob Ford told it to the Sheriff and others of us when we were in the room where Jesse lay dead. I had been sent for, among others, to identify him, but the facts were never told and I am giving them here for the first time.
Jesse owned a string of running horses and under the name of "Thomas Howard" made fairs and race meetings.
He had Bob Ford riding for him until he got too heavy when he went to taking care of the horses and his brother, Charley, who was younger and lighter than Bob, went to riding. Of course, Bob knew who "Tom Howard" was, which was unavoidable in their close association. The rewards for Jesse were steadily mounting as trains and banks were being robbed in various parts of the country and Jesse was watching and suspecting everybody, nearly, who knew who he was, and thinking that perhaps they were out to betray or kill him. He, with his family, consisting of his wife, Johnny ( or Young Jesse, as he was to be known later ), aged 7 and a girl, Mary, aged 5, were living in a small house in the eastern part of St. Joseph, Mo. There was to be a race meeting from the 20th to the 26th of April that year, 1882, and Jesse concluded to take four of his horses and go, so he told Bob Ford to get them ready and he and Bob would each ride one and lead another, thereby getting into Excelsior Springs where the meeting was to be held, with fresh and well conditioned horses, which would probably not be the case if they shipped them by train.
Bob told us there in the house where Jesse lay dead ( shot down by his hand ) the reason for the killing: "I knew that if ever he and I started on that 70 mile trip that I would never get there; that Jesse intended to kill me on the way. I could see it in his eyes as he was talking to me. He suspected me of intending to betray him, so the first chance I got, I shot him, as I knew it was either

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him or me." Bob's chance came on the 3rd of April, 1882. He, Jesse and Charlie had been out to the barn currying and watering the horses and returned to the house, and the day being warm for that time of the year, Jesse took off his coat ( a Prince Albert ) and unbuckling his belt with two pistols, lay them on the bed. He and Bob sat on the bed and Charlie sat in a chair near the door. Mary had been cleaning house and scrubbing, the day before, and in hanging the pictures back on the wall, had hung one of them, a cheap chromo, in a gilt frame, a little crooked. Jesse, noticing that the picture was hanging crooked, got up on a chair to straighten it. The chance that Bob had been waiting for had come.
Taking up one of Jesse's heavy pistols, he fired twice. Either shot would have been fatal. One in the base of the brain, and the other near the shoulder blade and through the lung.
Of course, the first thing to do was to identify the dead man, so Aunt Zerelda ( Jesse's mother who lived on the old home place near Kearney, Mo. ) was sent for. She looked at the dead man and turning to the Sheriff and the others in the room, said: "Gentlemen, you have made a mistake; that is not my son." She afterwards broke down and wept bitter tears of anguish. Although she had been expecting it for years, the blow, when it did come, was almost greater than she could bear.
Jesse James was dead, and buried in his mother's front yard near the little town of Kearney, Mo. Frank James, his brother and supposed associate in all the robberies that Jesse was accused of, surrendered in October,'82, and was in jail nearly four years and tried for every crime that he and Jesse were accused of, and came clear on every count, often assuming the burden of proof, himself.
Draw your own conclusions as to the guilt or innocence of Jesse - I could tell what I know, but you would doubtless say I was lying to save a comrade of Civil War days.
Of course, Jesse has been seen alive from time to time by cheap notoriety seekers. Once a cowboy came up from the Argentine and said that Jesse was ranching and doing well down there. When this report was sifted down, it was found that the man taken for Jesse was a younger son of an English lord.
A few years ago a banker in a West Texas town died, and the report was spread that he was Jesse James. More recently a fellow popped up claiming to be Jesse! How the heck do they get that way, loco weed, or what?
No! Jesse James was killed by Bob Ford on the 3rd of April, 1882, in St. Joseph, Mo., there were too many people who knew him well and came to identify him for there to be any possible doubt, so that is that. Frank died on February 19, 1915. Cole Younger died at his home in Lees Summit, Mo., March 21, 1917, just before

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we went to war with Germany. Had he lived, he intended to raise a regiment and go over. These are facts. No difference HOW I know, that I DO KNOW is sufficient.

JOHN YOUNGER
By FRANK DALTON

When the Civil War was ended the soldiers of the Confederate armies were told to lay down their arms and go home. Not so, however, with the men who had fought with Quantrell. We had not been regularly enrolled as Confederate soldiers, and although we had fought vigorously for the Southern cause, we had fought independent and were not recognized as regular Southern soldiers, hence we were outlawed and hunted down as common criminals. The Younger brothers, who lived in southern Missouri, were not allowed to come home, but had to hide away as best they could to keep from being caught and either sent to prison or executed. They, of course, sneaked in occasionally to visit their mother and sisters. ( Their father, Col. Henry Younger, had been assassinated by Yankees near the beginning of the war. ) It was on one of these visits that John Younger was reported to have been killed, March 17th, 1874.
Here is how it was ( I'm telling it for the first time ):
John had come home to be with his mother who was confined to her bed with malaria fever. The sheriff on being informed that he was home, came out from the county seat with two deputies to arrest him, and when the smoke cleared away he found himself with a broken arm caused by a pistol ball having passed through it.
The two deputies had gone yonder. John stayed at home as there was no one else on the place to do the chores and bring up the cows from the pasture; his two sisters being busy in the house with their sick mother. Allan Pinkerton's detective agency had undertaken to look for us as the rewards were rather tempting, and on the sheriff's arrival back in town he ran across four of these fellows and told them that John Younger was at home and what he had done to him and his deputies. Well, as it was their job to capture the Youngers, they got on their horses and started out. The Younger place was about 12 miles from town and as the detectives got a late start, evening was approaching when at last they came in sight of the house. They saw a young fellow over to the right of them about 200 yards or so, driving up a bunch of milk cows and decided that it might be a good idea to question him before going any further, so they left the road and started in that direction. ( The pistols of that time were of the cap and ball variety and took quite a while to load, so we usually carried plenty of loaded ones - "just in case," you know. A man caught with

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an empty pistol when he needed a loaded one was usually out of luck. So from six to eight pistols were considered a fairish amount to tote if you were expecting to meet up with trouble. ) Well, that part was all right, but instead of awaiting their approach as became a decent country boy when approached by the majesty of the law, this young rascal broke all precedents by charging full tilt in their direction with a gun in each hand and shooting like the dickens. Nothing in Pinkerton's book of rules to tell them what to do in a case of that kind, so they let nature take its course and turned tail and run like hell. When they got back to the timber one of them perhaps a little more brave than the rest, turned in the saddle and fired a single shot. The one shot was enough. The boy, who had not tried to hit them, although he could have killed all four of them if he had wanted to, fell from the saddle from the force of the heavy bullet.
There happened to be two other witnesses to this little play. The two were Cole and Bob Younger, who were coming home on a visit, and they arrived just in time to see John shot from his horse. Speaking to Bob as they rushed forward, Cole said, "Stop and see how bad John is hurt, Bob, and I'll ride on and attend to these fellows." John was, as Bob soon saw, shot in the left shoulder and not dangerously hurt, but the shock of the bullet had knocked him from his horse. He was carried into the house and put to bed by Bob and the two girls, where he stayed till he was able to travel. When he left he came to Texas where he had plenty of friends. The report was given out that he had been killed, which, as it was substantiated by the two Pinkerton men who got away from Cole ( he shot and killed two of the four ), was generally accepted as the truth. John came to Texas where he was for several years a peace officer under another name of course, and has led an honest and respected life. Little do the people think or realize that the erect, clear-eyed old man who is seen so often on the streets of various Texas towns is the former noted John Younger of Quantrell's band of Civil War days. He would have a hard time proving his identity, even should he wish to at this late day, as all the people who ever knew him as "John Younger" are long since dead and gone.
The leading papers of that day and time came out with various comments on his death, among the milder being ( after stating the manner of his killing which they had all wrong, of course ), "He was a perfect type of the genuine border desperado, and despite his age was the leader and guiding spirit of as ruthless a band of outlaws as the country has ever known." Another account had this to say about it: "John Younger, noted leader of the James and Younger band of outlaws and bandits, is laid low in death by the gallant forces of Allan Pinkerton. Now that the leader is gone the rest of the outlaw pack will shortly follow."

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But here is a paper that tells a different story. Needless to say, it was a paper printed in our own Southland. "John Younger, a boy still in his teens, is shot down and cruelly murdered by Pinkerton detectives while on a visit home to see his sick mother. Younger belonged to Quantrell's militia during the war, who are being hunted down and shot by organized bands of reward hungry brutes, for protecting their homes during the war."
And so it went on and on. The newspapers made the most of the chance they had to tell of the first one of Quantrell's men to be shot down by the forces of "law and order" since the war had closed. Later they were to have another chance to strut their stuff - much later - when Jesse James was killed. In the meantime the "life history" of John Younger was to be printed. It had about as much truth in it as had the account and manner of his death. Even his age, as well as the place of his birth were wrong.
We of Quantrell's militia have ever been a secretive bunch, and would tell nothing, so the writers of tales about us have had very little to go on in the way of facts, so they had to fall back on their imagination, but as that was usually in good working order they didn't need facts. Facts are sometimes bothersome things anyway in the making of a good story, so why use them? Or at least, such seemed to be the case with our biographers.

WRITER ANSWERS "TIMES" READER REGARDING JESSE JAMES' DEATH

FRANK DALTON DECLARES HE IDENTIFIED BODY OF NOTORIOUS SLAIN BANDIT

Proof Sheet of a Story I Wrote Two Years Ago in Reply to a Story About Jess in the Denver "Post."

A Longview reader of the Gladewater "Times" recently wrote a letter to the editor questionong the accuracy of the account of the death of Jesse James written by Frank Dalton and published in last week's issue of the "Times." Mr. Dalton was given the letter and his reply to the writer is printed below:

JESSE JAMES - DEAD OR ALIVE?

So Jesse James is alive again and is living in a small town in Nebraska this time, according to the Denver "Post." Let's see, how many times has Jesse been discovered since Bob Ford killed him in April, 1882. First he was reported to be ranching in the Argentine, and next we hear of him in Old Mexico where he is manager of a silver mine. Both times the person recognizing him is sworn to secrecy. Next he is found in a small western town where he is running

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a private bank, presumably started on the proceeds of his many bank and train robberies. He dies there and that ought to put an end to his activities, but instead of doing so it only seems to accelerate matters for in a short time - a very short time at that - he dies again and leaves a letter to his business partner to be opened and read at his grave in which he confesses to being Jesse James. Next he bobs up alive and well and proves his identity by an old negro woman who was the family nurse when Jesse was a baby.
I was in Fort Riley, Kan., when Bob Ford shot him on April 3, 1882, and as it was known that I had soldiered with him under Quantrell during the latter part of the Civil War, I was sent for to identify him and did so to the best of my ability and have always been positive ( and am yet for that matter ) that the man killed by Ford was Jesse James.
If the man in Nebraska is Jesse, why has he been silent for all these years? It seems unnecessary for Frank, after his surrender in the fall of '82, was tried for all the crimes that he and Jess were accused of and acquitted on every one, thus making it unnecessary for Jesse to longer remain in hiding, that is, if he was still living.
Frank and I were working in Ed Butler's theater ( The Standard ) in St. Louis when the report was given out that Frank had said that he could produce Jesse at any time under certain conditions, but Frank vigorously denied having made this statement and I am convinced that he did not. Aunt Zerelda ( Jesse's mother ) started all the trouble and doubt over the dead man being Jesse when she denied the identity of the man, saying, "Gentlemen, you have made a mistake; that is not my son."
She afterwards broke down, however, and in bitter tears of anguish admitted that it was him and gave as her reason for denial her desire to protect Frank, her other outlawed boy. She took the body to the little town of Kearney, Mo., with her and buried it in the front yard where it remained for several years, but was finally taken up and buried in the family lot in the cemetery at Liberty, the county seat of Clay county.
The Kansas City "Star" came out with a Bible quotation at the death of Jesse, "The name of the wicked shall rot." Following up with, "Already the name of James is offensive to the ears of all honest men, soon it will perish from the earth and be heard no more." It seems, however, that they were mistaken for as the years roll on and time passes his name is constantly brought before the public in one way or another, and greater becomes the opportunity for cheap notoriety seekers to strut their stuff.
Of the claims of this man in Nebraska, or others for that matter, I will say nothing. Let them go their way and get whatever satisfaction they may as they can harm no one by so doing. However, for

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me the Civil War with all the horrors of its aftermath is over, I hope, never to return.
I am, as far as I know, the last living man who soldiered under the "Black Flag" of Quantrell, but if Jesse James is alive I would like to see him for I knew him well and used to call him "friend."

Yours truly,
FRANK DALTON

"QUANTRELL"
By FRANK DALTON

In 1859 a young lawyer by the name of Nathaniel Hart, came to Lawrence, Kansas, and, opening an office, began the practice of his profession. The town of Lawrence was located on the Kaw, or Kansas River as it was called later, in what was then Kansas Territory, and about forty miles from the western line of Missouri. Young Hart had a brother who was attending a military school back home. He wrote and advised him to come to Lawrence, as it would be a good location in which to open up a school, for, of course, there were no public schools in that part of the country at that time.
So, upon his graduation, in the summer of 1860, young Charles came to Lawrence and opened a school. He was a mild-mannered and gentlemanly young fellow, liked by the scholars and respected by all who knew him. He continued his activities as teacher until 1862, although Nathaniel, his brother, left Lawrence in 1861, when war was declared, and went back to his Southern home where he joined the Confederate Army.
Lawrence was a hotbed of abolition and all who did not openly and vigorously espouse the Northern cause were looked on with suspicion. Indeed, so rabid was the stand taken by Jim Lane and other leaders that men suspected of being Southern sympathizers were often either taken out and shot or hung, or horse-whipped and told to get out of the country.
One evening in the spring of 1862, after school was out for the day, Jim Lane and some others of the leaders of the town, six altogether, came to the house where Hart was boarding and called him outside to question him. "Well, Hart, you know our stand on the slavery question as well as the rest of the things that brought on this war, and as you have never been heard to express your sentiments either way, we have come here tonight to find out how you stand, and to get you to take the oath of allegiance to the Northern cause."
Hart told them that he would like to remain neutral, and keep on teaching, as an education for the children was, in his opinion, of more importance than the war. "And as for the oath of allegiance to the Northern cause, my people are all in the South and a good many of

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them in the Confederate Army; so I cannot, and will not take your oath."
Hart was put in jail that night, and the next day he was taken out and tied to a tree in the center of the town's business street, where he was publicly whipped, after which he was told to leave the country. He then came to Missouri where, under the name of Wm. Quantrell, he organized "Quantrell's Militia." His military training came in handy now, as it made it possible for him to take a bunch of boys and build up the most perfect fighting organization that the Civil War produced on either side, and the "Black Flag" of Quantrell was more feared and dreaded by the "Yankees" along the Missouri and Kansas border than any other organization.
It was said that General Lee once made the remark that, given a half-dozen leaders like Quantrell, he could whip the North in less than six months. We took no prisoners; neither did any of us surrender, no difference what the odds were against us, although we paroled lots of prisoners on their promise to go home and quit the war. Our mode of attack whenever possible was to charge through the enemy lines, shooting as rapidly as possible and yelling like a lot of wild Indians. Yankee nerve, as a usual thing, couldn't stand much of that, and the battle was most always over before it got started. When a charge was not advisable, we usually harassed the enemy from ambush, shooting into their ranks until we got them demoralized, then we would charge in and either put them to rout or finish them. Sometimes though, they would be too many for us; then, after doing what damage we could, we would, ourselves, retreat.
Many are the stories told of cruelty practiced on both sides. Some of these stories are true, but the most are not. For instance, it was reported after the Battle of Bowers Mill that Cole Younger, in order to try out a new rifle that we had captured, lined up twelve of the twenty-two prisoners we had captured, and taking careful aim, fired, killing two of them and stunning the third. This was even printed in a supposed "history" of the Younger brothers. There is not a word of truth in it. I was there and know all that took place, and as the twenty-two men were all executed, it was done because they belonged to "Jennison's Jayhawkers," a bunch of rabid Kansas abolitionists ( "red legs," as we called them ), and our bitterest enemies. Jennison, however, retaliated by visiting the home of the James brothers and taking the women ( Aunt Zerelda, the mother of Frank and Jesse James, their sister, and my mother and sisters ), and after stripping them to the waist they tied them to trees and taking a blacksnake whip that they found in the stable they whipped them until they got tired and then they rode away, leaving the women and girls to be cut down and carried into the house by our negro slaves, who washed and bandaged their bleeding backs and bodies and put them

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to bed. Yes, sometimes the war was rather cruel! That we afterward exacted a terrible revenge for this inhuman treatment of our mothers and sisters goes without saying. We surrounded Jennison's men when they were in camp one night shortly after that and shot into them from the brush until we ran out of ammunition.
It was said afterwards that we killed or disabled over two-thirds of them. And so it went. First one side being the aggressor and then the other.
The Northern troops burned our town of Lexington, Mo., to the ground, and we retaliated by burning Lawrence, Kansas. They raided a mule-breeder's farm near Bowling Green, Mo., and got away with over 200 valuable mules. We raided the picket line of Fort Leavenworth, and after killing the soldiers on guard, stole over 400 cavalry horses and had to swim the Missouri River with them to get away, which we did under fire from nearly half the soldiers in the fort. The only thing that saved us from getting killed was that it was an exceptionally dark night and drizzling rain. As it was we lost seven men out of the twenty-five that we had when we took to the water. We got into Quantrell's camp, near Weston, Mo., a little after daylight, with 396 head of good cavalry horses; besides we had lost several in crossing the river.
In the spring of 1864 we decided to go South and after taking our women-folks to Westport, four miles south of Kansas City, for safety, we headed toward Southern Missouri, and after the Battle of Belmont, crossed over into Kentucky, where Quantrell was reported to have died of fever, caused from wounds he received in battle. The report was even believed by our friends for a time, until most of them learned different. What really did become of him has never been told, as he, being the leader of our organization during the war, would have been specially sought after had it been known that he was alive. However, not long after the war ended, a man, accompanied by his wife and little daughter, opened up a school in a small town in Central Texas, where he remained for several years. It was known that he had been with Quantrell during the war, for several of us visited him from time to time, but who he was has always remained a mystery. It was known, however, that Quantrell was married in Lawrence, Kansas, near the beginning of the war and that he had one child, a girl. Add to this the fact that Quantrell - or to use his right name, Charles Hart - was a school teacher, and lots of the people living in the small Texas town believed the mild-mannered and gentlemanly teacher to have been the once feared and dreaded "Quantrell" of Civil War days.

Yours truly,
(Signed) FRANK DALTON

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Gladewater, Texas,
March 6th, 1935.

MY DEAR MR. CRITTENDEN:

I received your letter and card this morning and was glad to hear that your Mss. has been turned over to the printers. It don't take long to get them out if the printer knows his stuff and of course most of them do. I have had several small books printed myself. Texas and Frontier History mostly. The picture of Mrs. Samuels is, I guess, the same one you have, taken full length and does not show her features very well. In my story about John Younger I did not mention the date of his supposed killing. ( I never mention dates or locations if it can be avoided. ) The rest of the story is substantially correct. He was killed on the 17th of March, 1874, in St. Clair county, Mo., not far from the little town of Roscoe. Cole died March 21st, 1917, at Lees Summit, Mo. Frank James died Feb. 15th or 19th, 1915. Jess, as you know, was killed in St. Jo on April 3,'82. Jim Cummins died in the spring ( I don't know the date ) 1929, at the Confederate Home near Higginsville, Mo. Bill Anderson ( supposed to be killed in Ray Co., Mo., during the war ) died about six years ago in Brown Co., Texas, where he had a small ranch, and had been living since shortly after the war. Quantrell was supposed to be killed in Kentucky on our raid through that state in 1865. I believe I sent you a pamphlet about Quantrell. It is correct in every detail, but I omitted to state his age or place of his birth. He was born April 27th, 1836, at Lexington, KY. His father was a Baptist preacher, as was also Robt. James, the father of Frank and Jess. By the way, Crittenden, there is a fellow knocking around the country claiming to be Jess. The Denver "Post" of Sunday, Feb. 24th, had an article about him, but so far I have not been able to get a copy so I am going to send to Denver for one. I usually pay no attention to these stories, but this fellow is exhibiting himself as Jesse James and I believe it would be a good idea to stop him. I may be up there in a few weeks as we have some more business in K. C., and when I come I will call and see you. We ( Dr. Travis and I ) are in the oil game a little down here and it keeps us on the jump, but we always have time to write or visit. Anything I can tell you about the "old days" I gladly will, and I think I am as well posted as any one can be, for I am 87 years old and joined Quantrell at Blackwater, Mo., on March 8,'63, the day I was 15.

Yours truly,
FRANK DALTON.

Gladewater, Texas.

Story about "Q" in "All Western Mag." of April. No good, but read it! H - ain't it. Why don't they let us alone?

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THE "JAMES GANG"

Gladewater, Texas,
March 26th,'35.

DEAR MR. CRITTENDEN:

Your letter out of the office and in reply to your questions, will tell you, "Yes, Bob Ford was killed in Crede, Colorado. The how of it was this - Your father had pardoned and restored to citizenship a fellow by the name of Dick Liddle ( or Little ) so he could appear as a witness at one of Frank James' trials. Dick and Bob Ford went to Crede and opened a saloon and gambling house. What became of Liddle, I don't know and is of no importance. One night a drunk by the name of Kelly was ejected from Ford's place by a bouncer for abusing one of the females of the dance hall ( of Ford's place ). He went to his shack and got his six shooter, came back and killed Ford. He was tried and given a sentence of 85 years in the Colorado penitentiary, but Governor Waite (?) the populist Governor pardoned him. I will say here that Frank and I stopped one night at the Blossom House in Kansas City ( across from the old depot ) and Ford was in the third room from us, but Frank did not try, although we talked about it, and you know the incentive was strong to injure him in any way. As for Charlie Ford, I heard that he had killed himself at their home near Richmond (?), Missouri. Another report has it that he died some place in Arizona.* Which is correct, I do not know as I have paid no attention to him. What year Bob was killed,** I have forgotten but think it was in the latter 80s or early 90s, not later than 1892, I know and think it was earlier. Anyway, Kelly, who killed Bob, was himself killed in Oklahoma City in 1893 (?) by a policeman by the name of Joe Burnette. Joe went to Pawhuska in the Osage nation and was killed by an Indian policeman by name of Bud Thurston. Bud was killed by Jim Courtright of Fort Worth, Texas. Luke Short killed Courtright, and there you have it all - one killing followed another. I would go into details but it would take too long, but these are the abbreviated facts, most of which I know of personally and the rest from reliable sources.

* - Bob Ford was killed by a drunken Irishman by name of Kelly in his, Ford's saloon, June 8th, 1892. - H.H.C.

** - The writer's recollection is, Charlie Ford died in Arizona of consumption. - H.H.C.

Yours truly,
FRANK DALTON.

P. S. - In regard to the killings I speak of, there is nothing strange about it, for they were "gun fighters all," and with the exception of Kelly, were killed in drunken brawls. Kelly, after he was released from prison, came to Oklahoma City, where he was engaged in dealing

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faro in one of the gambling houses. Early one morning about 2 or 3 o'clock, he had closed the game and was on his way to where he was staying - bank roll in one overcoat pocket and six-shooter in the other, when Joe Burnette, who had but recently been put on the police force and didn't know Kelly, stopped him to question him. Kelly, thinking perhaps that he was a highwayman, as the police wore no uniforms, shot through his overcoat pocket and hit Burnette in the leg, breaking it. As Burnette was falling he shot Kelly through the heart, killing him instantly. Joe Burnette afterwards attended an Indian pageant at Pawhusky in the Osage nation where he got into a drunken fight with some other grafters, and Bud Thurston, an Indian policeman, killed him in the line of duty. And so it went. Yes, things were rather primitive in those days. Sorry I can't give you date of Ford's killing,* but I have forgotten it.

FRANK DALTON.

* - It is not surprising that Frank Dalton, 87 years of age, should not carry these dates in his head. - H.H.C.

Kace This post of yours settles the Jesse James Lives saga for good. No need to check out the other imposters. JJ was killed in 1882 no doubt about it.

Kace · Oct 12, 2017

Rebel - KGC said:
LOL! Just a CORRECTION... Wife & I met at a Virginia STATE "Pen", not a "FED"; FED Pens are too "nice" (MHO). I am now retired; wife went on to be a Counselor/"Juvie" Corrections Magistrate (Troubled Kids)... quit years ago, too. ANYWAY, DALTON was a right interesting person.

My Mistake, Sorry..State Penitentiary...It's still funny and ironic! Corrections Magistrate Too...Generations Really Do Change Sometimes! Smile...

I Agree, Dalton is Very, Very Interesting! He would of been fun to meet with and listen to.

Funny Thing Around Here...On more than one occasion, kids and adults have used as defense in court, that 'They Really Couldn't Help What They Did...Jesse James was their ggGrandfather...It's In Their DNA!!' lol!

The funniest was two teenage brothers, last name Howard, who when asked by the judge to explain their lineage after that defense strategy ended with their gggGrandfather Howard...you know, Jesse James! ROFL!!! They Lost Their Case..lol!

Kace

Kace · Oct 12, 2017

Rebel - KGC said:
Gonna answer as the Knights of the Golden Circle; based om my R & I... there THREE Degrees 1st-3rd; LOCAL, STATE & NATIONAL LEVEL. 1st Degree is of the MILITARY/IRON FIST... LOCAL Degree; Texas was BIG on this degree, as the Texans (Knights/GC) were ready to invade MEXICO, before the CONFEDERATE WAR; plans were changed on the Texas STATE Level... Texan REBELS! MEAN! JJ was of the 2nd Degree State Level and Comptroller of KGC $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ in the SOUTH; the Degree has a name, & will have to look it up. 3rd Degree National LEVEL was HQ in NYC & was composed of 5-7 WEALTHY old men; it also has a name, that I need to "check my "Folders/Files"; that is why you see "357" (or so I have been told). The Order of American Knights (aka OAK) was a higher degree "system" of "movers & shakers" that wanted to unite the country after the CW; Railroad Barons, Steel Barons, etc, etc. OAK owned banks, stage "lines", RAILROADS, etc. Guess who went after 'em...? JJ & Gangs, Confederados, Desparados, ex-Rebel Outlaws... (singing... "Johnny Yuma, was a REBEL... a bad, bad, man"). Ex-Reb; Johnny Yuma... read the book, watched the TV show; OFTEN sang that song! Heh! Gen. John Silby of TX had his IRON BRIGADE...

THANKS REB! Your answer to my questions is Perfect! I appreciate you sharing your knowledge and research!

Kace

Rebel - KGC · Oct 13, 2017

AND! JJ HATED OAK!

Rebel - KGC · Oct 13, 2017

NOW! As to the KGC; 1st Degree - MILITARY (LOCAL, aka IRON HAND) , 2nd Degree - Financial (STATE), 3rd Degree - Governmental (National HQ). First National HQ was PROBABLY in Nashville, Tenn., then moved to NYC for OAK (Advanced Order, like Scottish Rite of Free Masonry). JJ was 2nd Degree - FINANCIAL for KGC in the SOUTH (KGC Comptroller); PROBABLY had to be a 32nd Degree SR Mason, so Gen. Albert Pike made JJ a 32nd "by sight". Far as I know FJ was NOT a 32nd... he WAS a MM, and often wore his Masonic Ring... so did WT Wright, MYSTERY MAN of Upper Goose Creek Valley in Bedford County, Va. ("Beale" Treasure). 'Nuff said for now... OH! Almost forgot... BOTH FJ & WT Wright were known as "BUCK"! "BUCK" Frank James meet "BUCK" WT Wright! Heh...

Kace · Oct 13, 2017

Rebel - KGC said:
NOW! As to the KGC; 1st Degree - MILITARY (LOCAL, aka IRON HAND) , 2nd Degree - Financial (STATE), 3rd Degree - Governmental (National HQ). First National HQ was PROBABLY in Nashville, Tenn., then moved to NYC for OAK (Advanced Order, like Scottish Rite of Free Masonry). JJ was 2nd Degree - FINANCIAL for KGC in the SOUTH (KGC Comptroller); PROBABLY had to be a 32nd Degree SR Mason, so Gen. Albert Pike made JJ a 32nd "by sight". Far as I know FJ was NOT a 32nd... he WAS a MM, and often wore his Masonic Ring... so did WT Wright, MYSTERY MAN of Upper Goose Creek Valley in Bedford County, Va. ("Beale" Treasure). 'Nuff said for now... OH! Almost forgot... BOTH FJ & WT Wright were known as "BUCK"! "BUCK" Frank James meet "BUCK" WT Wright! Heh...

lol! Lotta Bucks and Buds Around!

Thanks Again for Being So Detailed on That Reb...It helps me a lot playing catch up on KGC! I've got Masons in the family but they really aren't up when I want to ask a question!! lol! My memories of Masonic structure are distant ones!

A person Had to be a Mason to be KGC..Right?

From what I can tell on my genealogy, WT 'Buck' Wright of Virginia IS in our tree on my paternal side. We have more than several William T Wrights...but one IS noted as Buck. Some of that side left VA and went to AL before settling in MO, Then Some of the Family went back to Virginia and are still there. Very Large extended family. Many with the same names. I could put an entire Confederate Regiment Together!! lol! We even have Shelby, Price, RE Lee! I'll put up some stuff about when they were camped down home.

Kace

Kace · Oct 13, 2017

Rebel - KGC said:
AND! JJ HATED OAK!

OAK...He robbed everything he could that they had a hand in, thats who he mainly targeted... RR's, Stage Lines, Banks?
Northern Enterprise?

Rebel - KGC · Oct 13, 2017

LOL! JJ was a "Die Hard" REB... OAK was open to "Yanks"; that is why JJ hated the Order of American Knights, aka OAK.

Rebel - KGC · Oct 13, 2017

The Knights of the Golden Circle wanted men, who could be trusted & SECRETIVE... ranks of Free Masons were good, for Iron Hand, especially... read up on the Confederate Knights of TX.

Rebel - KGC · Oct 13, 2017

Soon, I will share MORE on the Degrees of the KGC & some books that you can read "on-line" (like REBEL GOLD)... Chapter 7: "Jesse James, KGC Field Commander" is a "MUST READ" (IMHO). LATER!
"Google" REBEL GOLD "on-line". HH! Good Luck!

ECS · Oct 13, 2017

Rebel - KGC said:
... Gen. John Silby of TX had his IRON BRIGADE...

?
Did you mean CSA Gen Joseph O Shelby and his IRON BRIGADE?
Now Dr John Sibley from Mass. was a medic during the Revolution, and Thomas Jefferson made him Indian Agent of the Orleans Territory 1815- 1814. He later settled along the Red River in Texas.
His son, CSA Brig Gen Henry Hopkins Sibley, however commanded a Texas Confederate division whose supply wagons were attacked and destroyed at the Battle of Gloneta Pass, and Sibley retreated to San Antonio, thus ending the Confederacy's hopes of having a southwest passage to California's mineral wealth, primarily, gold.

CSA Gen Joseph O Shelby knew Quantrill, Anderson, the James and Youngers, and NEVER surrendered, and his Adjutant, John Edward Newman, became a newspaper owner and wrote positive reports and stories of Jesse and Frank James.

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