King charles the 1st trade weight

Zachbl92 · Nov 16, 2016

Hey all, I had a thread earlier today where I wasn't able to identify one of the finds.
I've now identified it to be a king Charles the 1st trade weight. King charles reigned from 1625-1649!
This is now my oldest relic, and I'm super happy to have it. Two weeks ago or so, I found my oldest to date relic, a 1620-1680 trapezoidal shoe buckle. I can't believe I've already found something older and in my opinion, cooler. I'm super lucky and extremely happy. If you don't see anymore posts from me, I had a heart attack!
Any other info about trade weights is appreciated.
I'm super stoked to have found it and this beauty is going right into my shadow box.

Hope you all enjoy and Goodluck and happy hunting,
Zach

trapperart · Nov 16, 2016

Congrats on a nice find

Tradertom · Nov 16, 2016

That is a really sweet find!
Congratulations

UnderMiner · Nov 16, 2016

King Charles-I later had his head chopped off by the Roundheads. Interesting history that artifact represents! :icon_thumright:

Z.K. · Nov 16, 2016

Finds like this are such a cool part of this hobby, and keep me feeling like a beginner in a great way. I had never seen one of these before. I love it!! I'd appreciate a link to the ID post, as well as any perspective from anyone else on how rare something like this is stateside. Seems to me to be an absolutely extraordinary save.

Congrats, and thanks for sharing it

Zachbl92 · Nov 16, 2016

weights
This is where I IDed the weight, 20th row, 1st weight.
Thanks all for the kind words.
Underminer, I did read that when I did a Wikipedia on him!

Zachbl92 · Nov 17, 2016

With little other research, my lead disk turns out to be a lead trade weight as well. I can't make out any markings on it besides some weird ones on the back.
Any information is appreciated!

Thanks for looking and enjoy!

Tommy G · Nov 17, 2016

Can't offer any help, only sit here and drool over it! Great find!

romeo-1 · Nov 17, 2016

That is a cool relic! A trade weight is still on my want-to-find list!

Zachbl92 · Nov 17, 2016

Thanks Tommy! I've just sent a email along with some pics to the site I identified the Charles the 1st from. Hoping they respond back with any information. Will keep everyone posted.

CMDiamonddawg · Nov 17, 2016

Hard to find anything that old except near Jersey's East or West coast , Great , Great , find
LOndon /// Kings Hallmarks are Awesome !!! ... wish I found that one .....................

BIG Congrats friend

daWg

CRUSADER · Nov 17, 2016

Zachbl92 said:
With little other research, my lead disk turns out to be a lead trade weight as well. I can't make out any markings on it besides some weird ones on the back.
Any information is appreciated!
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Thanks for looking and enjoy!

Cool find, I like finding these, but then again my odds are greater. I'm convinced many of these were around for 100 years plus, stuck away & never used.
The lead one is a tough call, because without any proper markings, its just a Lead disk that could be a trade weight, plus a few other known's & unknown options.

Ahab8 · Nov 17, 2016

That's a really great find that I want to add to my display some day

Steve in PA · Nov 17, 2016

Very cool find! You are on a nice early site based on the weight and the buckle.

Zachbl92 · Nov 17, 2016

Steve in PA said:
Very cool find! You are on a nice early site based on the weight and the buckle.

Thanks and yessir! I've been waiting to have this permission for awhile now. A early cob was found in the area as well as other early 1600s finds 2 years ago. The acreage is huge so there's definitely more interesting finds to show and share soon I hope.

OldJerseyGirl · Nov 17, 2016

You can bet there is more. Keep us posted on what you find. We all love finding coins, but the trade weight is special! And am betting there are coins there too. Happy hunting!

Zachbl92 · Nov 17, 2016

OldJerseyGirl said:
You can bet there is more. Keep us posted on what you find. We all love finding coins, but the trade weight is special! And am betting there are coins there too. Happy hunting!

Thank you! I'll Be sure to post anything good i find. And I'm betting there are quite a few coins amongst all the different fields of the area, just a matter of getting my coil over it! Gl and HH to you as well :icon_thumright:

Bill D. (VA) · Nov 17, 2016

That's a great find Zach with excellent detail and a lovely patina. I've dug several trade weights down here in Virginia, but none quite as early as yours. You may already be aware of this, but in addition to the King Charles mark, the dagger signifies the City of London authority and the ewer (looks like a coffee pot) represents the Founders Company that was granted authority to certify brass trade weights produced by private makers. However, I'm unsure how to determine if your weight is Charles I or II. The reference source you used shows examples of both types, and yours definitely matches the earlier one. So I guess we can assume that info is correct. Regardless, congrats on an awesome early recovery!

CRUSADER · Nov 17, 2016

Bill D. (VA) said:
That's a great find Zach with excellent detail and a lovely patina. I've dug several trade weights down here in Virginia, but none quite as early as yours. You may already be aware of this, but in addition to the King Charles mark, the dagger signifies the City of London authority and the ewer (looks like a coffee pot) represents the Founders Company that was granted authority to certify brass trade weights produced by private makers. However, I'm unsure how to determine if your weight is Charles I or II. The reference source you used shows examples of both types, and yours definitely matches the earlier one. So I guess we can assume that info is correct. Regardless, congrats on an awesome early recovery!

Good point, my first thought was it maybe CII & as far as I can tell, it might be either.

Zachbl92 · Nov 17, 2016

Bill D. (VA) said:
That's a great find Zach with excellent detail and a lovely patina. I've dug several trade weights down here in Virginia, but none quite as early as yours. You may already be aware of this, but in addition to the King Charles mark, the dagger signifies the City of London authority and the ewer (looks like a coffee pot) represents the Founders Company that was granted authority to certify brass trade weights produced by private makers. However, I'm unsure how to determine if your weight is Charles I or II. The reference source you used shows examples of both types, and yours definitely matches the earlier one. So I guess we can assume that info is correct. Regardless, congrats on an awesome early recovery!

Thanks for the kind words bill! I did not know any of what you said, thanks for that information. I only knew the c was for charles. Also, as you stated cII trade weight could of been a possibility as well. I thought so myself but mine matches up perfectly to the stamps of the Charles the 1st. The c is slightly different and so is the hilt of the dagger. It is thicker on cII. There are also a few other charles the firsts I ran into while searching, stamps still look the same. Curved c and skinnier hilt/hand guard. I'm personally gonna stick with charles the 1st as the ID as I'm pretty certain, but I'm not a expert, so who knows. thanks again and Hh

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