MY 70th LARGE COPPER ON THE YEAR *1787 NEW JERSEY

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

went back up to a site i hit a few times and targets are pretty sparce.I dug my knee buckle here yesterday.3 hours into hunt with nothing to show but a few pieces of iron & a couple shotgun headstampsI decided to go way in back of cellar hole and was follwing a rock wall when BAM solid 80's on the vdi,5 inches I was mumbling please let it be one so,i can make it 70 on the year.sure enough there it was.a 1787 New Jersey colonial copper.
6 coppers from this site & a 1773 half reale.very quiet at this site but,when you hit a good target its old.also got this piece of unmarked silver.no clue what the heck it is or was.looks like it was repaired at one time.rang up in the quarter range.thought it was gonna be another coin

 

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[Greylock]

Nice copper!

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[CRUSADER]

better luck next time

 

[Don in SJ]

Dave, wow, wow, and wow, another great year! OK, I think you hit a good one this time. I am not 100% certain, but will get it verified that the NJ you found is a Maris 58-n, a rare variety. Now let me say this, Conn coppers are rare more than common, thus it is not unusual to find rare and very rare Conn coppers, but when it comes to NJ coppers, since there are less varieties, a Rare variety is really special. Especially since I started my survey 7 years or so ago. Out of the approx 275 identified NJ coppers in my survey, only about 9 have been Rarity 5 or higher. So very glad to see this one, especially since it is the only M.58-n in the survey. Please email or pm me with the county and state.

1787 New Jersey Copper - Maris 58-n Compare and see if you agree......

Don

 

[stewielouie]

sweet coin!

 

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

Dave, wow, wow, and wow, another great year! OK, I think you hit a good one this time. I am not 100% certain, but will get it verified that the NJ you found is a Maris 58-n, a rare variety. Now let me say this, Conn coppers are rare more than common, thus it is not unusual to find rare and very rare Conn coppers, but when it comes to NJ coppers, since there are less varieties, a Rare variety is really special. Especially since I started my survey 7 years or so ago. Out of the approx 275 identified NJ coppers in my survey, only about 9 have been Rarity 5 or higher. So very glad to see this one, especially since it is the only M.58-n in the survey. Please email or pm me with the county and state.

1787 New Jersey Copper - Maris 58-n Compare and see if you agree......

Don

thanks Don,I hope it is.I'm not good at comparing so,I hope you can verify this.

 

[VOL1266-X]

Dave, I didn't think you could break your "Captain Copper" record from 2011. Now, I think you just might. Love the buckle. HH, Quindy.

 

[Tnmountains]

Amazing that many coppers. You sir are the king of copper at least on this side of the pond. Nice finds all of them!
HH
TnMtns

 

[umrgolf]

Congrats HMN, looks like #70 is a rare one! If the weather holds off looks like you might get to 100

 

[VERMONTPACKRAT]

We can always count on a copper from you ! I bet all of those coppers make a very impressive pile I will be watching to see if you beat last years totals.

VPR

 

[TNGUNS]

Wow......to say the least

 

[Bubba65]

Dave as said before Congrats on one nice looking NJ Copper and it is sure a sweet one to make it your 70th.

Bubba65

 

[cjon455]

thats a sweet copper!

 

[Ground Inspector]

Nice coin

 

[Don in SJ]

Dave, got the verification that it is a 1787 Maris 58-n variety, late die state, (die break in front of the horse). I would go ahead and clean it carefully, get the crud off if you can and than perhaps we can see some of the most likely undertype. It appears the 56-58 n varieties were overstruck on Conn coppers I believe the reason that was done was because the NJ coppers were worth more than a Conn copper, so you take a Conn copper and strike over it with a NJ die and you made profit!

Don

 

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

Dave, got the verification that it is a 1787 Maris 58-n variety, late die state, (die break in front of the horse). I would go ahead and clean it carefully, get the crud off if you can and than perhaps we can see some of the most likely undertype. It appears the 56-58 n varieties were overstruck on Conn coppers I believe the reason that was done was because the NJ coppers were worth more than a Conn copper, so you take a Conn copper and strike over it with a NJ die and you made money!


Don

Don

SWEET! thanks Don! uggh i dont wanna clean this one.I'm Skeered now lol.takes a deep breath...ok i'm not scared now

 

[HEAVYMETALNUT]

i knew i was scared for a reason a quick hot peroxide bath revealed what i was afraid of...oh well..i'm not gonna clean it any further.shoulda left it be. welcome to the world of dug colonial coins everyone

 

[Don in SJ]

Dave, the coin is what the coin is, I think you know how your coppers in the area are in general and just bad luck on that coin. Sometimes it is best to start with just a q-tip with distilled water or even peroxide and pick out an area you think might be bad and if it is you will know before doing the whole coin. But you did good on having good before photos, where the crud was holding most of the original details in place, but that is all it was doing, it was not solid coin under some areas of the crud. Blame the soil conditons, not yourself.

Don

 

[Iron Patch]

i knew i was scared for a reason a quick hot peroxide bath revealed what i was afraid of...oh well..i'm not gonna clean it any further.shoulda left it be. welcome to the world of dug colonial coins everyone

Your mistake was rinsing it under the water after you were done. If you don't, the patina stays.

 

[Iron Patch]

Dave, the coin is what the coin is, I think you know how your coppers in the area are in general and just bad luck on that coin. Sometimes it is best to start with just a q-tip with distilled water or even peroxide and pick out an area you think might be bad and if it is you will know before doing the whole coin. But you did good on having good before photos, where the crud was holding most of the original details in place, but that is all it was doing, it was not solid coin under some areas of the crud. Blame the soil conditons, not yourself.

Don

For the sake of learning a lesson I have to disagree because I know for a fact I could have cleaned it and had it looking better than the top pics. As I said the mistake was rinsing it because I have probably cleaned a couple hundred coppers, got the crud and dirt off, and kept the patina. His usual condition is exactly what I have to deal with here, and most times it's just trying to salvage a coin the best you can. All that said, the coin obviously had issues and the cleaning and keeping the patina was just about eye appeal... something that does make a difference, but certainly wouldn't add a zero to the value!