My find from today

[BrettCo124]

Hi all,

Got out for the day with my buddy John. Just wanted to share my find.

BrettCo

 

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[quito]

Nice!

Great needle tip still on that piece too!

 

[jmaschal]

Glad we hit that second spot! Nice find!

 

[nmtreasure]

I see little knapping. How is determined to be a true arrowhead vs a random rock? Serious question, I am trying to learn.

 

[arrow86]

Nice find that’s definitely a day maker

 

[BrettCo124]

Thanks all! I was stoked.

 

[BrettCo124]

I see little knapping. How is determined to be a true arrowhead vs a random rock? Serious question, I am trying to learn.

The little knapping and it’s shape is what I saw when I picked it up. Once you hold it in your hands, there is no questioning it. They have a symmetry about them that I also look for. When all three of those elements are together, there is usually no questioning what you have.

I’m no good at stone material and types of artifacts and their shapes (I’m still learning too), but I’m positive knowing that additional information will make you find things and identify them even faster. Hope that helps.

 

[jmaschal]

@nmtreasure this one has been tossed around in the water for quite a long while. Sometimes finding points in the water and being tossed around in tides wears down the point. I had the opportunity to hold the point today and pictures don’t do it justice. Plus the material is weird my first thoughts was it was ironstone because it was a little gritty but possibly argillite or siltstone. Def a material I am not too used to seeing.

 

[arrow86]

What are you thinking for the type ? Looks like may be Morrow Mountain type 2 is so it’s pretty old

 

[jmaschal]

I was thinking Rossville

 

[Tony in SC]

Cool/ODD point!! I found a larger point here on my place that was made of softer material and was weathered like yours. All the working marks were gone, but it had an almost perfect ground base.

 

[Charl]

I see little knapping. How is determined to be a true arrowhead vs a random rock? Serious question, I am trying to learn.

There's no doubt it's a point. Given the find location, like other examples I have seen posted on forums in recent weeks, it may very well be Lockatong Argillite, sourced in Pa and NJ. I don't believe any material weathers in an extreme fashion, in water or not in water, to the point of sometimes erasing the flaking, to the extent shown by Lockatong Argillite, and it does resemble that material...

 

[Charl]

Roseville seems a very reasonable call. If found in New England, it would likely be either a Roseville, or it might also pass as a Middle Archaic Stark, which is a New England analog to the Mid Atlantic Morrow Mountain series. I think it's a nice find by any name...

 

[mainejman]

Might throw Neville into it or a Neville Starks variant...mjm

 

[arrow86]

I thought Rosevilles had rounded ears but I’m sure there’s some examples with pointed ears

 

[nmtreasure]

There's no doubt it's a point. Given the find location, like other examples I have seen posted on forums in recent weeks, it may very well be Lockatong Argillite, sourced in Pa and NJ. I don't believe any material weathers in an extreme fashion, in water or not in water, to the point of sometimes erasing the flaking, to the extent shown by Lockatong Argillite, and it does resemble that material...

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Thanks Charl. I didn't realize points were made out of this type of material. I will definitely keep an eye out for this type of stuff.

 

[rock]

Cool point find!! I find some different material from the norm in my area every once in a while. Have to have an open mind when looking in creeks as to colors I go by shapes most of the time. It takes a lot of bending when you hunt like that but you find many more than the most cause they will miss them.

 

[BrettCo124]

Cool point find!! I find some different material from the norm in my area every once in a while. Have to have an open mind when looking in creeks as to colors I go by shapes most of the time. It takes a lot of bending when you hunt like that but you find many more than the most cause they will miss them.

Thanks! I’ve been trying to slow my pace down a lot lately. It’s been helping. Learning new things every time I go out.

 

[rock]

Thanks! I’ve been trying to slow my pace down a lot lately. It’s been helping. Learning new things every time I go out.

Walk 1 direction all the way around then reverse it to get another angle you can even crisscross if you like it. I dont usually do the last one but some do. Stand at the down stream section and then squat to get a close look at the gravel bar to see where the main current went over the bar and check it 1st you will find most of them there. Dont forget the edge that goes along the bank they get snagged there in the roots where the gravel hits the bank in a "V" trough most miss that section.

 

[BrettCo124]

Walk 1 direction all the way around then reverse it to get another angle you can even crisscross if you like it. I dont usually do the last one but some do. Stand at the down stream section and then squat to get a close look at the gravel bar to see where the main current went over the bar and check it 1st you will find most of them there. Dont forget the edge that goes along the bank they get snagged there in the roots where the gravel hits the bank in a "V" trough most miss that section.

Great advice as usual. Thanks rock!