OI: Tell us your What? Who? And Why? No proof needed here.

[franklin]

The "adventurers" signed on for 1 year, to help establish and defend this new colony from hostiles.
The so called"strangers" were not members of the Separatist (Pilgrim) congregation, composed of the captain and crew, and the adventurers.
No mystery there.
There is NO ships log of the Mayflower's voyage to the New World in existence.
But...The Mayflower will sail again:
https://britishheritage.com/the-mayflower-sails-again/

No ships log in existence. I have a copy that cost $100. Just because I wanted a copy. You can get a free copy on-line.

 

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[digger460]

Mygaski....arrived from Uranis, deposited uranius droppings for safe keeping until his return after his escorting the remaining Templars to exterior galaxy 137.74.31 but there was a collision in a route and everyone was killed.

I think your on it, but wasn't it 137.74.32?

 

[ECS]

No ships log in existence. I have a copy that cost $100. Just because I wanted a copy. You can get a free copy on-line.

Are you referring to "THE MAYFLOWER AND HER LOG" by Azel Ames?

 

[franklin]

Are you referring to "THE MAYFLOWER AND HER LOG" by Azel Ames?

Yes.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

geez. A lot of people forget about Darcy O'conner. He was there at the time these discoveries were made. He was regarded, at that time, as the foremost expert on OI.

Wow! A journalist. Hard to disagree with a Journalism major and all the geology, biology, botany and archaeology studies they cram into that curriculum.

And, being an unbiased journalist he'd have given us the straight scoop.

But, wait a minute, he authored three books on Oak Island . . . so he was biased to create interest in the Island rather than expose it as bunk.

I remain skeptical.

 

[b3y0nd3r]

Wow! A journalist. Hard to disagree with a Journalism major and all the geology, biology, botany and archaeology studies they cram into that curriculum.

And, being an unbiased journalist he'd have given us the straight scoop.

But, wait a minute, he authored three books on Oak Island . . . so he was biased to create interest in the Island rather than expose it as bunk.

I remain skeptical.

I guessed you missed this part:

I have seen reports by the Smithsonian and by independent botanists stating that it is definitely coconut fiber. I have seen carbon-dating results that Triton has gotten showing that it's several hundreds of years old, that it's not glacial wood that they're finding under the ground. The metal that they're finding is pre-1750, and it's coming deep from under the ground.

He didn't do these things, others did and he reported on it. Reporting news was different back then. You had no internet and you had to do the foot work. If you have done any research instead of just outright dismissing him, you would understand he is a stand-up guy. But you were too interested in being right than researching the facts.Did he author some books, sure why not make a profit from his knowledge.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

So . . . he found the treasure?

The treasure of Oak Island is old, soggy coconut fiber. Such a marvel.


By the way - Triton took the sample to the lab. Any lawyer would have that dismissed as evidence from a trial because of the risk of contamination and the loss of the chain of evidence. Also, seawater messes up "Carbon-14" dating because of ions in the seawater.

 

[b3y0nd3r]

So . . . he found the treasure?

The treasure of Oak Island is old, soggy coconut fiber. Such a marvel.

No. Nor did he say there was treasure.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

No. Nor did he say there was treasure.

Look again . . .

But O’Connor believes that the pit must have been dug by the Spanish, whose galleons, loaded with New World plunder, passed within 400 miles of Nova Scotia in the 16th century. He speculates that a disabled ship stashed its loot, planning to return, but sank before it could carry news of the trove back to Spain. “The chances are better than even,” he says, “that the treasure is still there.”

 

[ECS]

No ships log in existence.
I have a copy that cost $100. Just because I wanted a copy. You can get a free copy on-line.

"THE MAYFLOWER AND HER LOG" subtitled "the ship's log as IMAGINED by Azel Ames" is a work of fiction.
There is NO ship's log by Mayflower Capt Christopher Jones known to exist.
The ONLY eyewitness account of the Mayflower and Plymouth colony is by William Bradford, "History of Plymouth Plantation".

 

[Carl-NC]

In his own words from in search of...

"D'Arcy O'Connor, a Montreal journalist and considered the leading expert on the Oak Island enigma, reported in 1976, "I have seen the coconut fiber that has been brought up. I have seen reports by the Smithsonian and by independent botanists stating that it is definitely coconut fiber. I have seen carbon-dating results that Triton has gotten showing that it's several hundreds of years old, that it's not glacial wood that they're finding under the ground. The metal that they're finding is pre-1750, and it's coming deep from under the ground. So, there's no possible way that it's a natural phenomenon or a hoax. Someone was there at some time, and I can only assume to bury something of great value."

So you can rule out natural. I don't even see how you can think so.

Re-read the quotation. Carefully. What evidence is being presented that rules out natural, and who is presenting it?

He speculates that a disabled ship stashed its loot, ...

In a 200-foot deep hole on a 35-foot island, and protected with complex water traps. That's called "stashing."

 

[gazzahk]

is a work of fiction....

Fiction/Fact what is the difference?.... If you love a good conspiracy theory they are one and the same.... If you do not like the published truth then is must just be "FAKE NEWS"

Oh what a world we now live in.......

 

[ECS]

It is when a work of fiction is used to prove another fiction as fact that scuttles real factual research as truth is jettisoned by endless rationalization as justification for a faulty premise based on fiction.

 

[Dave Rishar]

geez. A lot of people forget about Darcy O'conner. He was there at the time these discoveries were made. He was regarded, at that time, as the foremost expert on OI.

In his own words from in search of...

"D'Arcy O'Connor, a Montreal journalist and considered the leading expert on the Oak Island enigma, reported in 1976, "I have seen the coconut fiber that has been brought up. I have seen reports by the Smithsonian and by independent botanists stating that it is definitely coconut fiber. I have seen carbon-dating results that Triton has gotten showing that it's several hundreds of years old, that it's not glacial wood that they're finding under the ground. The metal that they're finding is pre-1750, and it's coming deep from under the ground. So, there's no possible way that it's a natural phenomenon or a hoax. Someone was there at some time, and I can only assume to bury something of great value."

So you can rule out natural. I don't even see how you can think so.

No. Nor did he say there was treasure.

This level of cognitive bias is impressive, even by the standards of this forum.

 

[ECS]

Fiction/Fact what is the difference?.... If you love a good conspiracy theory they are one and the same.... If you do not like the published truth then is must just be "FAKE NEWS"

Oh what a world we now live in.......

...when FAKE history is promoted as fact!

 

[franklin]

Sorry you can call it anything you want. I will not reveal anything to you. Anytime I post anything of value you never comment, you always go to another angle trying to chisel out more information. I think I will leave you with your "darkness" keep searching with negative comments.

 

[ECS]

I was referring to the book "THE MAYFLOWER AND HER LOG: The Ship's Log As Imagined by Azel Ames" which you mentioned as a source, which is for all intents and purposes, "fake history" and NOT to be considered as a source of factual information.

 

[franklin]

No facts came from the Mayflower and it's Log.

 

[ECS]

... Read everything about Christopher Columbus. Also the voyage of the Mayflower and her personal log...

This was this reference to the MAYFLOWER's "personal log" which does not exist, so of course no facts came from a nonexistent "Mayflower and its log".

 

[franklin]

I told you that in a post I made yesterday. Why bring up old news with a question?