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mikeraydj

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I have talked about how my Fisher f2 8" coil will not give a proper ID at any depth. I thought it was the coil and Fisher said they will have someone contact me to replace the coil. Today after air testing the sniper coil (which gave stable ID's in air tests) I went to the fairgrounds, I only got targets that were surface finds or no more than 2 inches below the surface. Should I just send the whole unit back for repair?
 

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What does it do on quarters on the 4" coil?

Didn't we get 5" earlier?
 

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I have talked about how my Fisher f2 8" coil will not give a proper ID at any depth. I thought it was the coil and Fisher said they will have someone contact me to replace the coil. Today after air testing the sniper coil (which gave stable ID's in air tests) I went to the fairgrounds, I only got targets that were surface finds or no more than 2 inches below the surface. Should I just send the whole unit back for repair?

Probably just weren't any targets deeper than 2 inches. As the owner of an F2 I've had such hunts and I was beginning to lose faith in the unit until I hit a field were just about every coin was 6-8 inches down... In soil right next to to the ocean.
 

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Find yourself some 1982 or earlier pennies. They are almost pure copper. Go where you can use you unit with no EMI and dig some holes at different depths and bury them.
Test your unit. You can always go back and test months or years from now
 

crazy4coins

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Find yourself some 1982 or earlier pennies. They are almost pure copper. Go where you can use you unit with no EMI and dig some holes at different depths and bury them.
Test your unit. You can always go back and test months or years from now

Yeah, freshly buried coins are very hard to detect.
 

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Thanks for the advice. I will try burying some coins tomorrow and see what results I get.
 

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I am already nervous because my 8" coil will not give me any steady readings for coins on the surface. Talked to Fisher and they said it was a bad coil. The bad news was that it was a demo unit from Kellyco so I have to go though them to get a replacement. Now I am afraid the whole unit is bad, because my sniper coil only has been finding coins on the surface or at the most 2" below the surface when I went to an old school yard that I know must have had some coins deeper than that.
 

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I tried the copper penny test. I used a 1977 penny buried in 4" of soil, no EMI, max sensitivity, 4" sniper coil. No reading. 3" and ID jumps all over the place. 2" mostly dime reading, Surface steady dime ID. Is that normal or should it ID deeper?
 

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I tried the copper penny test. I used a 1977 penny buried in 4" of soil, no EMI, max sensitivity, 4" sniper coil. No reading. 3" and ID jumps all over the place. 2" mostly dime reading, Surface steady dime ID. Is that normal or should it ID deeper?
 

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I tried the copper penny test. I used a 1977 penny buried in 4" of soil, no EMI, max sensitivity, 4" sniper coil. No reading. 3" and ID jumps all over the place. 2" mostly dime reading, Surface steady dime ID. Is that normal or should it ID deeper?

It's a fresh garden, so the VID numbers probably won't be accurate for another year or so.
 

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Real copper pennies will read the somewhat the same as a modern dime. I would expect your unit to read deeper.
 

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I tried the copper penny test. I used a 1977 penny buried in 4" of soil, no EMI, max sensitivity, 4" sniper coil. No reading. 3" and ID jumps all over the place. 2" mostly dime reading, Surface steady dime ID. Is that normal or should it ID deeper?

On my F2 using the 4" coil, I got 5.5" using a quarter on an air test.

"I got out my F2 to check....

Using 8" stock coil, default sensitivity, a clad quarter is 77-79 solid to 7.5".
I also had the discrimination set for everything out except the top two dime and quarter segments.

Using the 4" coil, default sensitivity, solid 77-78 to 5.5"
 

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I air tested my 8" coil and could only get a Quarter 77-78 to 4 1/2". Lost all signal by 7". Using 4" sniper 77-78 to 4" lost at 5". Is it a bad F2? In test garden could not pick up the Quarter at 6", nickle, dime, copper penny, and zinc lost @ 4".
 

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I air tested my 8" coil and could only get a Quarter 77-78 to 4 1/2". Lost all signal by 7". Using 4" sniper 77-78 to 4" lost at 5". Is it a bad F2? In test garden could not pick up the Quarter at 6", nickle, dime, copper penny, and zinc lost @ 4".

Is there a difference between your coil and the coil Fisher sent you?
 

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Hi mikeraydj; Keep it simple. Just send in the whole unit. You obviously have a problem with the Unit as well as possibly with the search coils. My bet would be on the Unit being faulty not the coils. THAT would be a first for me in 45 years. I've NEVER had a search coil fail ok. Hope this helps. PEACE:RONB
 

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I have not gotten new coils.

I went to Fisher and told them my problem. They said they cannot help me as Kellyco used the unit as a demo so any problems need to be directed to them, even though I was sold saying that I had a full factory warranty. This transaction has turned into a nightmare. I hope to see some light at the end of the tunnel. I bought this for this summer. Kellyco says they will contact me tomorrow morning. We will see what happens.
 

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I talked to Kellyco. They said they would get back to me as my salesperson was off. They didn't. I had to call them. After much arguing about how I must not know what I am doing and how my state has bad mineralization, even though the last time I checked we all had the same air. Flunked air tests. They gave me a RMA number and said they will take a look at it. So I have to pay shipping to get it back to FLA. and maybe it will get fixed.
 

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I talked to Kellyco. They said they would get back to me as my salesperson was off. They didn't. I had to call them. After much arguing about how I must not know what I am doing and how my state has bad mineralization, even though the last time I checked we all had the same air. Flunked air tests. They gave me a RMA number and said they will take a look at it. So I have to pay shipping to get it back to FLA. and maybe it will get fixed.

Hey Mikeraydj,

Shoot me an email with your contact info and I will look into this for you. Just to clarify, if someone purchases a "demo" Fisher unit through us that has a warranty, Fisher is to honor it. That is an agreement we have with Fisher and if anyone else is in this situation please contact me right away and I will straighten it out for you.

Gene Knight
Director of International
and Domestic Sales
Kellyco Metal Detectors
[email protected]
 

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I sent you my info and have not heard anything from you or your company.
 

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I sent you my info and have not heard anything from you or your company.
I just contacted Gene he should reply shortly.


why did you wait 18 days to say you haven't heard back?






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