oldest fire fighter button -- photos of reverse added

tigerbeetle

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Added comment: I believe this latest button predates the Scoville types. In fact, based on the coins in the area of both buttons, I might even place this type in the 1800 to 1810 realm. It might also be unlisted in the likes of "The Big Book of Buttons," where the later variety is pictured.


In 1980, I found a gorgeous "Fire" button. The one-piece button hales from the Federal Period. It is considered by many to be the holy grail of fire fighter buttons. With that 1980 find, I figured I had scored a once-a-lifetime rarity and refused a goodly number of offers to buy it. Then, fire struck a second time, this past weekend.

I was having a lousy day deep in the South Jersey Pinelands "outback." I couldn't detect so much as a pewter button -- a common find in the particular area I was working. I was also being choked to the hacking point by the most horrendous pine pollen layer I've seen in 50 years of Pinelands exploration. It’s so thick it swirls up like smoke when disturbed by a swinging detector.

As if pollen wasn't enough, I was under attack from a hatch of spring mosquitoes of near biblical proportions -- aided by the wettest early spring the area has ever recorded. Abandoning the hunt, I began one of those low-grade wide-swinging semi-hunts, as I speedily headed back to my truck.

As I got back toward modernity, I took an easily-heard reading. I gave it little merit since I had moved into a fully trashed out near-road zone. Still, I went through that process of kicking away surface dirt with my boot. The ground was loose. I could foot away a solid three inches of leaf litter and sugar sand. The solid “good” reading persisted, a very good sign; so good, I went into the kneeling mode. I save that genuflection method for high-percentage extractions.

Using my fierce Japanese digging tool, I made short order of some arrogant roots from green briers and nearby sassafras. The reading was even further down – and now high in the red alert zone. My hole dig went wider, as I’m inclined to do when there’s chance of slicing into a coin.

Loosening the soil to a solid ten inches down, I hand shoveled out the entire load of loosened sand. From my knees, I did a re-swing with my Fisher CZ-3D detector. The object was out of the hole and close to the surface of the piled up sand. I fingered the sand and uncovered what my overly optimistic eyes tooto be a large cent. Grabbing it, I felt the curvature and quickly saw the button loop.

Letdowness leaked in – until I turned the find over. I swear it was like seeing a family member. Not only was it a twin to my first “Fire” button but it was in identically incredible shape. I swear it was more fun the second time around.

While the find wasn’t up there with an AU 1794, it is such a look into the past, via the antiquated image on the button.
 

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Sir Digs-A-Lot

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Re: My second specimen of most famous fire fighter button

Sweet! Is that a uniform button or from a piece of gear? Great story and good job on the recovery.

Cheers,
Dan
 

stillgottawork

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Re: My second specimen of most famous fire fighter button

Never seen one of those before....great find... :headbang: I'll give ya a nod for "banner".... :hello2:
 

tuatara

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Re: My second specimen of most famous fire fighter button

I enjoyed your story. Are there any backmarks by chance?
 

mainer

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Re: My second specimen of most famous fire fighter button

That button is sweet! :thumbsup:
 

cntrydncr1

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Re: My second specimen of most famous fire fighter button

wow that is gorgeous
 

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Thats a beautiful find and as you said, the condition is amazing.. That image instantly rewinds the clock. Nice one
 

Swingit

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Re: My second specimen of most famous fire fighter button

Very Very Very Nice Button!! :o :headbang: :headbang: :notworthy: :notworthy:
I Love This Hobby!!!
HH!!
 

dwayne sueno

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Re: My second specimen of most famous fire fighter button

sweet! i've never seen one of those dug before!
 

kuger

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Re: My second specimen of most famous fire fighter button

That is awesome!!I found a fireman suspender buckle this year,that is one of my favorites!
 

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BuckleBoy

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Re: My second specimen of most famous fire fighter button

To be honest, that is a BANNER button! Valuable as hell, and in pristine condition. One FANTASTIC find!


-Buckles
 

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Re: My second specimen of most famous fire fighter button

BuckleBoy said:
To be honest, that is a BANNER button! Valuable as hell, and in pristine condition. One FANTASTIC find!


-Buckles

I really like it, but as a dumb Brit, what are the details? Date etc?
 

BuckleBoy

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CRUSADER said:
BuckleBoy said:
To be honest, that is a BANNER button! Valuable as hell, and in pristine condition. One FANTASTIC find!


-Buckles

I really like it, but as a dumb Brit, what are the details? Date etc?

1820ish, pristine, and scarce! This one is in demand due to the design, the age, and the topic. One of the first firemen's buttons in the U.S.

-Buckles
 

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BuckleBoy said:
CRUSADER said:
BuckleBoy said:
To be honest, that is a BANNER button! Valuable as hell, and in pristine condition. One FANTASTIC find!


-Buckles

I really like it, but as a dumb Brit, what are the details? Date etc?

1820ish, pristine, and scarce! This one is in demand due to the design, the age, and the topic. One of the first firemen's buttons in the U.S.

-Buckles

I can see its pristine :o (my vote is in)
But I'm interested in the Fire service at this early date. Was it like the UK, & they only helped those that were insured with them? or was it the first national/regional service that fort any fire?
 

93vector

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Re: My second specimen of most famous fire fighter button

Incredible button!!!
Being a firefighter myself, I really love this find
Thank you for sharing!!
 

BuckleBoy

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Re: My second specimen of most famous fire fighter button

CRUSADER said:
I can see its pristine :o (my vote is in)
But I'm interested in the Fire service at this early date. Was it like the UK, & they only helped those that were insured with them? or was it the first national/regional service that fort any fire?

It was like the UK, until the mid-1800s. They were paid to fight fires by insurance companies.

From The Big Book of Buttons by Hughes & Lester:

EARLY FIRE ASSOCIATION BUTTON, circa 1825-35
The button bears the device of a fireman running in stove-pipe hat, carrying an oil torch to light his way through the streets, and shouting 'Fire' through his speaking horn. One piece brass, slightly convex; reverse: "Scovills Waterbury."


This is not quite exact (the button in the photo at the top doesn't look slightly convex, and may not have a backmark), but the running fireman motif was used by fire associations in Philadelphia and Balitmore as well.

The button lists close to $200, but this nice of an example would probably bring closer to $300 IMO.
 

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Re: My second specimen of most famous fire fighter button

That's a super button.

Congrats on a really nice relic

HH Jer
 

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