Paleo crescent knife? I googled that and saw some very very simiilar to this ...?

[grobb28]

 

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[grobb28]

No, this is a uniface knife or scraper, most likely from the middle Woodland time period.

Thx strange prolly my fav piece

 

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[Get-the-point]

Yup it is broke whatever it is. The usage wear on blade edge and form is what lead me to believe it is a hoe. Here are some examples of flint hoes. These are cahokian but flint hoes were used over most of the country. Look how the tip is and imagine driving the hoe into the ground and think of how it would break off all of these clues are what is driving my decision......... Mississippian Spades and Hoes | www.arrowheads.com

 

[NC field hunter]

GTP, I have many agriculture implements in my collection. I know that you are normally on the money with your calls. I'm just curious what the whole hoe would look like. Would this be a complete hoe, like Grobb has the bit to?







The bit is so narrow, it confuses me.

 

[grobb28]

Yup it is broke whatever it is. The usage wear on blade edge and form is what lead me to believe it is a hoe. Here are some examples of flint hoes. These are cahokian but flint hoes were used over most of the country. Look how the tip is and imagine driving the hoe into the ground and think of how it would break off all of these clues are what is driving my decision......... Mississippian Spades and Hoes | www.arrowheads.com

YeAh I see your point gtp it's very possibly ! Did u see my other finds ? I want your opinion on them please ? If u can help with possible age and what some of those are !? It's killing me



See the wear on the smallest piece ? Scraper or small hoe ?

 

[Get-the-point]

NC... That piece looks to be a hoe. It was all on the maker how big,how crude they wanted it. I went on form and wear on the blade everyone else opinions hold weight as well. After the break it could have been used as a knife. The problem is the piece is not whole so a positive ID is difficult.

 

[grobb28]

NC... That piece looks to be a hoe. It was all on the maker how big,how crude they wanted it. I went on form and wear on the blade everyone else opinions hold weight as well. After the break it could have been used as a knife. The problem is the piece is not whole so a positive ID is difficult.

Thx gtp appreciate your input alot !! I know must of my pieces are broke in some way but I still love them . Did u see the rest of the blades? Opinions on those ?

 

[Get-the-point]

Grobb it is hard to speculate what broken pieces may have been. I don't think its a woodland site. I'm leaning middle to late archaic but once again a point type when you find one will date it, as these tools were used when paleo man settled down into village life.

 

[grobb28]

Grobb it is hard to speculate what broken pieces may have been. I don't think its a woodland site. I'm leaning middle to late archaic but once again a point type when you find one will date it, as these tools were used when paleo man settled down into village life.

I did find a big spearhead in same spot ! 5 years ago but someone stole it !! Sucks I know it was approximately 4 inch spearhead

 

[grobb28]

I did find a big spearhead in same spot ! 5 years ago but someone stole it !! Sucks I know it was approximately 4 inch spearhead

Blade type ?

 

[Get-the-point]

The brown j.a.s.p.er blade(they censored jaspe) I'm thinking could be a deep notch related to lost lakes or a dovetail point. The other blade is broke on back side but has the hafting area intact and blade. In my opinion that is a knife....

 

[NC field hunter]

Grobb, I think GTP is correct with the late archaic to woodland call. All of the notched blades with the odd angle at the bottom in my collection were found on late archaic sites. However, a good place to camp could have been used from earth's start to present day. Unless you are digging and taking observation of what you find and the depth it was found, time can be a doosie to call.

 

[csilacy]

i agree with Get-the-point or possible scraper.we have some scrapers that are oval shaped and some are shaped like a thin hoe. also the paleo artifacts that i have found are usually more crude. awesome finds!!!

 

[grobb28]

The brown j.a.s.p.er blade(they censored jaspe) I'm thinking could be a deep notch related to lost lakes or a dovetail point. The other blade is broke on back side but has the hafting area intact and blade. In my opinion that is a knife....

Yeah the blade on the curved one I'd pretty gnarley looking thx man

 

[grobb28]

i agree with Get-the-point or possible scraper.we have some scrapers that are oval shaped and some are shaped like a thin hoe. also the paleo artifacts that i have found are usually more crude. awesome finds!!!

Thx so much c silacy !! They're crude alright but beautiful in my opinion

 

[grobb28]

Grobb, I think GTP is correct with the late archaic to woodland call. All of the notched blades with the odd angle at the bottom in my collection were found on late archaic sites. However, a good place to camp could have been used from earth's start to present day. Unless you are digging and taking observation of what you find and the depth it was found, time can be a doosie to call.

I was digging they were 2- 7 Inched deep in hard compact soil

 

[grobb28]

I was digging they were 2- 7 Inched deep in hard compact soil

So what does that tell you .. The deeper the older ? Correct

 

[Get-the-point]

I forgot to mention and this is based on that tip and what it could be but if it is a dovetail or deep notch it is early archaic. Does anything look familiar about your tip and the tip of this point in the link?

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/st-charles-dovetail-arrowhead

 

[grobb28]

I forgot to mention abd this is based on that tip and what it could be but if it is a dovetail or deep notch it is early archaic.

Which one gtp ? The point or knife ?

 

[Get-the-point]

Grobb if these were found in the same occupation level they all would be early archaic.....

 

[grobb28]

Grobb if these were found in the same occupation level they all would be early archaic.....

Occupation level ? They were l found very close too each other except the big uniface scraper/blade it was approximately 8 feet away on surface at very very very back of overhang everything else was under the dirt 3-7 inches down