Paleoindian Bi-pointed Blade

daehworra

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:hello2: My first artifact ever found! :hello2:
This ancient bi-pointed blade came out of an old wall I was demoing the other day (House built in 1922).

I've spent hours upon hours searching for treasure, arrowheads, ginseng, morels, etc. without any luck. I must say this is rather rewarding.

Now I don't know much at all regarding this item. I've been told the flaking on it looks Paleoindian? Possible Agate Basin or Eden? Any input would greatly be appreciated!

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Charl

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I did see this elsewhere in the forum universe, and know it was found in Colorado Springs. The archaeologist you spoke to had suggested it might be related to the people who created Agate Basin or Eden projectiles. I mention this since what you say may sound confusing here in that experienced collectors can see that it is not an Agate Basin point or an Eden point. I do not know enough to speculate it might be a knife form related to the cultures that did produce those named point styles. One possibility would be a Lerma Pointed. Early forms of that type did display Paleo style flaking, later forms of that style were randomly flaked. Here are some examples to compare your piece to:

Lerma Projectile Point

I am just speculating here. I am no expert where Western point forms and knife forms are concerned. I do know that, in colonial New England, a tradition existed of placing everyday objects inside the walls of houses being built. A friend, when doing restoration work on a colonial era home he owned found a well preserved pair of 18th century shoes inside one of the original walls.

For sure its an unexpected place to find an ancient artifact, and it's a real nice find!
 

11KBP

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Now I don't know much at all regarding this item. I've been told the flaking on it looks Paleoindian? Possible Agate Basin or Eden? Any input would greatly be appreciated!

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The first pic is a much better photo of the material and shows that it is a dendritic chert. Considering where it was found it is most likely Trout Creek jasper (chert).

As I mentioned on another forum I do believe it is an early piece due the flaking style. However I would say that it is not related to Eden points. I have never seen a bi-pointed knife form from the Cody Complex (Eden).
 

arrow86

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It's hard to tell from pics the size of it. Any chance of seeing more pics possibly with it in hand? It's a well crafted blade but very odd for it to be in a wall.
 

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Probably hidden in that wall due to the depression maybe holding onto it in case for an emergency fund that never came to be. Either forgotten or maybe somebody passed away before revealing its location. Sure is a nice blade.
 

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daehworra

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The first pic is a much better photo of the material and shows that it is a dendritic chert. Considering where it was found it is most likely Trout Creek jasper (chert).

As I mentioned on another forum I do believe it is an early piece due the flaking style. However I would say that it is not related to Eden points. I have never seen a bi-pointed knife form from the Cody Complex (Eden).

Not that I know much of anything about this stuff, but I do believe this is Trout Creek jasper (Chert) as well. Here is a comparison photo. Compare.jpg
 

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Years ago a friend bought an old house to flip. He pulled up the carpet and found $2,000.00 dollars worth of $20 dollar bills. All silver certificates. He was stoked! You found a beautiful point!
 

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Killer piece. Welcome the forum.
 

joshuaream

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Interesting piece. I agree with 11kbp that it really looks like an old point. I just can't think of anything from your area like that.

In the Great Basin and Pacific NW, there are Cascade points that can look like that. (The Cascade Bipoint like what was stuck in Kennewick Man.) They aren't that old, but often exhibit flaking that screams paleo to most of us.

Way further south than this section of the forum deals with you get into some really old bipoints. These are Jobo points from South America.

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