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I was just wondering if anyone carries any kind of personal protection. I'm thinking of carrying some pepper spray with me on future treasure outings. Thanks
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Rich in Texas
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We have concealed carry here in Texas and it is very nice to be able to take advantage of that protection. I have had more problems with large dogs in the woods or rural areas than I have had with people.
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scotty
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When I first started detecting back in "62" I bought a bayonet to probe and dig with. It has a 14" blade. I carry it either in my left hand or rear pocket handle first. I have never had anyone bother me. It makes an excellent probe, plus cut plugs, or to dig with. It has the narrow blade, unlike the newer Rambo type bayonets. This one must have been a world war I issue. HH. Scotty
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Rich in Texas
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Wow Scotty, you have been Detecting as long as I have been walking the earth!! 
. I know the kind of bayonet you are talking about and I can imagine it being a great tool. I use a stainless digging tool, don't remember the brand, a shovel if somewhere that I can use it, and a brass probe that I made. I think most detectorists have enough items on them to take care of themselves
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. I know the kind of bayonet you are talking about and I can imagine it being a great tool. I use a stainless digging tool, don't remember the brand, a shovel if somewhere that I can use it, and a brass probe that I made. I think most detectorists have enough items on them to take care of themselves HH All
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jedihepner
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I always carry my North American Arms Mini - Revolver when I venture out detecting. It's a five shot .22 SH. /.22 L.R. and is only about 3.5 inches in length which makes it very concealable. I have a concealed carry permit and recommend that you get one if you chose this form of protection as you can easily run afoul of the law without one! We often put ourselves alone in the woods or other places and are not paying heed to our situation or surroundings. We become isolated because of our headphones and our devoted attention to our machines and It is all too easy to become engrossed in the enjoyment of detecting, only to find oneself in a sticky situation. Hopefully I'll never run into a situation that I can't navigate out of without it, but it's nice to know that it's there if needed!!!
I always carry my North American Arms Mini - Revolver when I venture out detecting. It's a five shot .22 SH. /.22 L.R. and is only about 3.5 inches in length which makes it very concealable. I have a concealed carry permit and recommend that you get one if you chose this form of protection as you can easily run afoul of the law without one! We often put ourselves alone in the woods or other places and are not paying heed to our situation or surroundings. We become isolated because of our headphones and our devoted attention to our machines and It is all too easy to become engrossed in the enjoyment of detecting, only to find oneself in a sticky situation. Hopefully I'll never run into a situation that I can't navigate out of without it, but it's nice to know that it's there if needed!!!
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Yes i've carried pepper spray and guns before. Never had to use a gun but I have used pepper spray on a dog once.( wish i'd had my camera for that one). check around and you can find pepper spray for bear country that has a larger canister, longer range and a dye to identify who or what you sprayed. The way the laws are getting now carrying a gun will bring you lots of trouble in some locations, so know your local laws.
Lowbatts
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Here in Illinois we have a governor that wants us to be the first gun-free state in the union. Over his de...
Anyhow, if the tools I carry for the hunt don't work, then it's pretty bad. Had some bad actors sic their dogs on me once in an FP nearby. Two rots. I saw it coming from 50 yards off and as I was at the edge of a low, treeless open area it did not look good. I hoofed it over a fence as the dogs came up and we were all out of sight of their owners in the nearby brush and woods. Used two fist sized rocks as the dogs came through an old jumble of barb wire that caused them to yelp very loudly.
Stuck one with a metal rod that I had just recovered and picked up on the retreat. The yelping caused the bad guys to call off the dogs but they were po'd over the injuries I guess and wanted to hunt me down themselves. Not to worry, those guys know about as much about hunting as Santa and they were easy to evade. Circled around, came to my car, in the same lot as theirs and the two dogs were in their car messed up and excited, but the bad guys were still out looking for me.
While I probably should have gotten my gun out of the trunk and shot the dogs and car to pieces, I got a kick out of their predicament more so than mine and left grinning.
Got treed in the Ozarks once by a HUGE pack of dogs, all shapes and sizes. They left soon enough, not too worried about me, but I came mighty close to wasting the shorts....
That said, I'm not sure shooting would have helped either situation, but I know I would have felt better if I had the option to make that decision instead of some dingbat administration in Springfield.
Carry pepper spray at least. It works on most animals, uhh, make darn sure they are downwind, doh!
Anyhow, if the tools I carry for the hunt don't work, then it's pretty bad. Had some bad actors sic their dogs on me once in an FP nearby. Two rots. I saw it coming from 50 yards off and as I was at the edge of a low, treeless open area it did not look good. I hoofed it over a fence as the dogs came up and we were all out of sight of their owners in the nearby brush and woods. Used two fist sized rocks as the dogs came through an old jumble of barb wire that caused them to yelp very loudly.
Stuck one with a metal rod that I had just recovered and picked up on the retreat. The yelping caused the bad guys to call off the dogs but they were po'd over the injuries I guess and wanted to hunt me down themselves. Not to worry, those guys know about as much about hunting as Santa and they were easy to evade. Circled around, came to my car, in the same lot as theirs and the two dogs were in their car messed up and excited, but the bad guys were still out looking for me.
While I probably should have gotten my gun out of the trunk and shot the dogs and car to pieces, I got a kick out of their predicament more so than mine and left grinning.
Got treed in the Ozarks once by a HUGE pack of dogs, all shapes and sizes. They left soon enough, not too worried about me, but I came mighty close to wasting the shorts....
That said, I'm not sure shooting would have helped either situation, but I know I would have felt better if I had the option to make that decision instead of some dingbat administration in Springfield.
Carry pepper spray at least. It works on most animals, uhh, make darn sure they are downwind, doh!
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Glad you got out of that one Lowbatts!! I had a run-in with a rotty in the woods recently. I think there was something serious wrong with this dog. A warning shot did not even make him flinch. Gotta be careful out there. John Brownings creations help keep me safe 
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Hey Rich, those Rots are almost as committed as shepards and pit bulls. I once chased three dobies away by pulling my jacket up over my head and spreading my arms, made me look bigger. Then I started growling like a bear, real loud. They ran off wimpering. Glad they weren't meaner dogs, they had me cornered.
Other Illinois issues aside, I like the environment up here a bit better than down your way. No bad snakes and almost no poisonous critters, unless you count shrews... Last time down in TX got to show the kids a rattler just west of you, on the way out to Sea World. It was road kill, but they had never seen a snake that big in the wild.
And I've NEVER walked up on wild buffalo around here, as I did down in Texas some years back. Now that one almost wasted my shorts too! Gotta carry more than just pepper spray for that.
Other Illinois issues aside, I like the environment up here a bit better than down your way. No bad snakes and almost no poisonous critters, unless you count shrews... Last time down in TX got to show the kids a rattler just west of you, on the way out to Sea World. It was road kill, but they had never seen a snake that big in the wild.
And I've NEVER walked up on wild buffalo around here, as I did down in Texas some years back. Now that one almost wasted my shorts too! Gotta carry more than just pepper spray for that.
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Rich in Texas
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LMAO!!! Buffalo can be a surprise if not expected!! You got close to my place. I only live a few miles from Sea World. I can see the fireworks shows at night during the summer.
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Shedman
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Over here, the government has criminalised all hand guns, so its only criminals that have them. For christ sake, we have to have a licence to own a television!! The only thing I have for protection is a shovel (we detect mostly on ploughed soil) and a good pair of running shoes. If the shoes don't work, the shovel bites!!
We don't seem to have the same trouble over here that you guys have though. Do you really have situations while detecting that neccesitates the carriny of a gun?
We don't seem to have the same trouble over here that you guys have though. Do you really have situations while detecting that neccesitates the carriny of a gun?
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I carry a Springfield .45 or the new XD-9 (9mm). I also have one of those little North American Arms revolvers, but mine is the little bit bigger one, .22MAG.
I smell a small rant coming....We never know what is gonna happen, and so if you have a choice, whether to be a statistic (victim), or not, it's up to you. Some states, and countries, want their "subjects" (citizens) to always be victims since only the cops and bad guys will have better weapons. And when you need the cops, there is never one around.
I haven't been detecting for a long while, but detecting isn't the only time a crime can occur. The situation in the states, for the most part is that in states that issue the license to carry a concealed weapon, crime drops. This is in part due to criminals don't know who might be carrying. Of course, in states that don't have the right to carry, crime is up, since law abiding citizens are known to criminals to be un-armed with a firearm.
BTW, I live in deep south Texas with a CCW.
I have never had to pull my weapon out.
I smell a small rant coming....We never know what is gonna happen, and so if you have a choice, whether to be a statistic (victim), or not, it's up to you. Some states, and countries, want their "subjects" (citizens) to always be victims since only the cops and bad guys will have better weapons. And when you need the cops, there is never one around.
I haven't been detecting for a long while, but detecting isn't the only time a crime can occur. The situation in the states, for the most part is that in states that issue the license to carry a concealed weapon, crime drops. This is in part due to criminals don't know who might be carrying. Of course, in states that don't have the right to carry, crime is up, since law abiding citizens are known to criminals to be un-armed with a firearm.
BTW, I live in deep south Texas with a CCW.
I have never had to pull my weapon out.
Rich in Texas
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Lowbatts
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MDnoob! I love it. Yeah it adds to the swing weight a little but hey, sighting through the coil. Hey Shedman, we've got bad actors hereabouts too, but we alsostill have lots of bad critters throughout the country, big and small that require some means of dispatch on occassion.
Joggers in some parts of California have again become food for cougars for example. In Illinois, weare asked to dial 911 and pray, but in my town it's still ok to use your shooting skills indiscriminately in defense. By that I mean if it looks like you've placed your shots well, then some zealous prosecutor might decide you didn't need to shoot at all. So fire a round in the couch and hit 'em in the leg too, then dial 911.
Joggers in some parts of California have again become food for cougars for example. In Illinois, weare asked to dial 911 and pray, but in my town it's still ok to use your shooting skills indiscriminately in defense. By that I mean if it looks like you've placed your shots well, then some zealous prosecutor might decide you didn't need to shoot at all. So fire a round in the couch and hit 'em in the leg too, then dial 911.
cpt_peewee
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A Lesch Land Shark shovel would serve as a good battle ax, but nowdays I still carry a little 38 in my pocket.
When I worked in Little Rock I had to go to some rough areas. (like around the governor's manse) When I wasn't carrying my 1911, I always had an "Ace of Spades" on my keychain. (Choate Machine and Tool) It's a little short fiberglass filled black plastic push dagger that passed Ark's concealed weapons laws back before we got CCW. Now they are making what they call the "Executive Ice Scraper" (A wicked looking little knuckle duster) I wish they had made it back then. :twisted:
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When I worked in Little Rock I had to go to some rough areas. (like around the governor's manse) When I wasn't carrying my 1911, I always had an "Ace of Spades" on my keychain. (Choate Machine and Tool) It's a little short fiberglass filled black plastic push dagger that passed Ark's concealed weapons laws back before we got CCW. Now they are making what they call the "Executive Ice Scraper" (A wicked looking little knuckle duster) I wish they had made it back then. :twisted:
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whiskers
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Lowbatts: "...those guys know about as much about hunting as Santa"? That an Illinois expression? Boy, I've got to remember that.
Shedman: "Do you really have situations while detecting that neccesitates the carrying of a gun?" One of the old-time ('50s) publicity-hunting-type THers named Frank Fish was murdered on one of his outings. Only one I know of, but it can happen. When you're out in the desert all alone, you're all alone. (Catch my meaning?)
Since the late '50s I've carried a 1945 small Army pick ("entrenching tool", if that helps explain it), and now the point is nicely rounded. I usually lay it on the ground until I need it, but if there are people around it's not hard just to carry it in one hand. It would also be useful on one of the dogs you guys seem to attract (I never have).
You guys with all the guns, be sure you're well versed in their use. One time my wife woke me up in the middle of the night to tell me two guys were walking around the house shining flashlights in the windows. My .45 auto was under the bed in a holster and I think I spent several hours trying to get the gun out of the damn holster. (I bought it at a gun show and some fool had put a strap across the front for looks, while a snap kept the gun inside. I spent my time trying to undo the strap. (Remember, I was half asleep.)) Finally I got it out and all was well. It's amazing how the sound of a .45 slide being racked back (cocked) resounds around the neighborhood. End of any possible disagreement with the two gentleman outside. (Moral: remember to be familiar with your holster as well as your gun. :-) ) - Jim
Shedman: "Do you really have situations while detecting that neccesitates the carrying of a gun?" One of the old-time ('50s) publicity-hunting-type THers named Frank Fish was murdered on one of his outings. Only one I know of, but it can happen. When you're out in the desert all alone, you're all alone. (Catch my meaning?)
Since the late '50s I've carried a 1945 small Army pick ("entrenching tool", if that helps explain it), and now the point is nicely rounded. I usually lay it on the ground until I need it, but if there are people around it's not hard just to carry it in one hand. It would also be useful on one of the dogs you guys seem to attract (I never have).
You guys with all the guns, be sure you're well versed in their use. One time my wife woke me up in the middle of the night to tell me two guys were walking around the house shining flashlights in the windows. My .45 auto was under the bed in a holster and I think I spent several hours trying to get the gun out of the damn holster. (I bought it at a gun show and some fool had put a strap across the front for looks, while a snap kept the gun inside. I spent my time trying to undo the strap. (Remember, I was half asleep.)) Finally I got it out and all was well. It's amazing how the sound of a .45 slide being racked back (cocked) resounds around the neighborhood. End of any possible disagreement with the two gentleman outside. (Moral: remember to be familiar with your holster as well as your gun. :-) ) - Jim
cptbil
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Do I carry....... :?
Where I go, along the Ariz/N.Mex./Tx. & Mexico Border, we all carry "Heavy"!
Your knife, pepper spray, or entrenching tools just don't have the "range"!
I have a stub nose .44 mag, that I carry at ALL! times!
(I hand load a 300gr Jacket hollow point @ 1200fps, 900fp bullet)
I also have a semi auto '06, a .44 mag Winchester, asittin' in camp!
I have snub nose 45ACP, (3 1/2" barrel) as my "backup"!
I also...anyway!...
So! You might think this is excessive ?
Just last month (Dec.'03) a Border Patrolman was shot and killed!
No!
I am carrying just about enough!
But!
To answer your question..."YES! I DO CARRY PERSONAL PROTECTION"
Where I go, along the Ariz/N.Mex./Tx. & Mexico Border, we all carry "Heavy"!
Your knife, pepper spray, or entrenching tools just don't have the "range"!
I have a stub nose .44 mag, that I carry at ALL! times!
(I hand load a 300gr Jacket hollow point @ 1200fps, 900fp bullet)
I also have a semi auto '06, a .44 mag Winchester, asittin' in camp!
I have snub nose 45ACP, (3 1/2" barrel) as my "backup"!
I also...anyway!...
So! You might think this is excessive ?
Just last month (Dec.'03) a Border Patrolman was shot and killed!No!
I am carrying just about enough!
But!
To answer your question..."YES! I DO CARRY PERSONAL PROTECTION"
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