Playing the end game gives up Rev War and one very old anchor button!

Iron Patch

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Have a friend in town (Cerebus on here), and we've been digging some dirt. Sites are tough right now with most fields planted so the end game we are playing is detecting sites that are pretty close to the end, which is oh so different than once upon a time ...because they were great sites! Looking at my little pile of finds it looks like my typical post from a day out with Ironhorse in the Fall, but oh no, this was many hours worth. :) Like I said these places have been hit well, clearly not dead yet, but you do have to work for it.

All that said, I'm very satisfied with the results. The Rev War RP button didn't survive well, but that's expected for those. The Ross Guards is cool, and clearly a rare one as I found another a decade ago and no one seems to know anything and I've never seen another. What makes it even stranger is this one is a variant, having no crown like the first I dug. So now I have two and no answers - but do feel there is a very high probability they are from Ross-shire, Scotland. This Winter I will see if I can figure that out.

Last but not least, is my best and most interesting button I've dug in a while. It's a crude anchor design hand engraved tombac. It's early French and would date somewhere between 1720 and 1750.


Ironhorse if you see this...

The RP is from the little RP hill site in T.

The Ross Guards is from the NJ field, not far from where you got the Master button last year.

The French anchor is from the Cossack Cob site. So quiet it was tough not to leave after the first 20 minutes, but stayed and the button was my first signal maybe 30 feet in front of the iron. I dug three more targets in the hour that followed, all away from the site.
 

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Glad you had some great finds. That kind of history isn't here in Michigan thanks for sharing em!!!!
 

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Oh wow! The buttons you pull regularly are ridiculous!! That Ross button is insane and the anchor button IMHO is as good as it gets. Hand engraved, French, and old. Totally amazing bud! I understand fully the "End game". The game is really a mental game with yourself and being patient. But you stayed and killed it! Nice work
 

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Congrats on the great buttons, worth the day right there.
Say hello to the Newfie.:hello:
 

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I don't know for sure if this is the same but there are references to the Ross Guards / Ross Horse Guards in the newspapers c. 1798, 1802, 1804. From what appears to be the Wexford, Ireland area.

And here's something about "Standish Lowcay" who is mentioned - His "company of Yeoman" may be the Ross Guards...?

The New Geneva - Hookless Village

STANDISH LOWCAY
There was one gentleman in this area who acquired an unenviable reputation through his association with Geneva Barracks, during its time as a penal settlement and who deservedly merited the hate of the local people. He was a notorious magistrate, who lived at Kilhile House. He was originally a Huguenot, who came over to Ireland with William II, Prince of Orange and was given large tracts of land as a reward for his services. As well as being a magistrate, he also had under his command, a company of Yeomen, who were justly hated in 1798, and many were the floggings and pitch- cappings and cabin roof burnings inflicted by this gentleman to extract information before and after the Rising. He sent his unfortunate victims across the river to Geneva Barracks, in the hope of seeing them executed or deported. When he died a ballad was composed in order to perpetuate his memory. Its chorus went as follows:-


“Hell is full of Orangemen


The Croppies cant get in


We’ll make the Devils begging bag, Of Lowcay’s yellow skin”!
 

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I don't know for sure if this is the same but there are references to the Ross Guards / Ross Horse Guards in the newspapers c. 1798, 1802, 1804. From what appears to be the Wexford, Ireland area.

And here's something about "Standish Lowcay" who is mentioned - His "company of Yeoman" may be the Ross Guards...?

The New Geneva - Hookless Village


I would say that's definitely a better lead! There was both Irish and Scottish settlers here in high numbers.
 

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Hand engraved anchor button is really something else.Very nice!!
 

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That's is a lot of work, but very worth it in the 'end'

our beat sites are getting tougher every day, and once upon a time they were our best sites, how things change

the anchor button is awesome, that area has always fascinated me and I'm sure there'll be more from there in time

good luck finding some more fields to swing in, it's been a tough year for the farmers so be nice to them
 

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IP what's the item in the upper right hand corner what looks like a loop on the end?
 

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Awesome finds! I would take those any day from a quiet site and drive home smiling!
 

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Very nice relic hunt, congratulations! :occasion14:
 

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Awesome finds! Love those buttons and that hand engraved one is in stunning condition. Big congrats!
 

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http://asahelena.wixsite.com/militarybuttons/buttons-p-r
Not your variant but there is a Ross-shire on the site. So seems most likely.

Never seen that french button, looks like some kid draw it...lol


Is my variant because it's also my button. :) He's just guessing with nothing solid to back it up.

I've actually seen those French anchor buttons before as there is no mistaking them, and one I recall was made much more sloppy than mine. Two I've seen up close because I bought them and they were made the same as the one I have now. That was about a decade ago and I thought they were very cool, and never thought it was something I'd ever find.
 

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Is my variant because it's also my button. :) He's just guessing with nothing solid to back it up.

I've actually seen those French anchor buttons before as there is no mistaking them, and one I recall was made much more sloppy than mine. Two I've seen up close because I bought them and they were made the same as the one I have now. That was about a decade ago and I thought they were very cool, and never thought it was something I'd ever find.
OK, Bramblefinds leads looking much stronger then.
 

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I don't know for sure if this is the same but there are references to the Ross Guards / Ross Horse Guards in the newspapers c. 1798, 1802, 1804. From what appears to be the Wexford, Ireland area.

And here's something about "Standish Lowcay" who is mentioned - His "company of Yeoman" may be the Ross Guards...?

The New Geneva - Hookless Village
There is a period place call 'old Ross' or Ross in Wexford, Ireland. So a good lead.
 

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