QUESTIONABLE INFORMATION POSTED AS FACT CONCERNING THE BEALE TALE

[ECS]

ONLY the TITLE of "Ward's copyrighted public pamphlet" was COPY-RIGHTED; NOT the "STORY".

Ward's handwritten application for copyright for the BEALE PAPERS on borrowed Adams & Payne letterhead stationary(his son-in-law place of employment) was with the title page page "of a book" with the statement that "A copy of the book itself, to be sent when finished", which of course would indeed included the story and ciphers.

That statement "to be sent when finished" is a string indicator that James Beverly Ward was the "unnamed" author, AND had not finished writing the BEALE PAPERS story when he applided for the copyright.

 

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[ECS]

So...? Further R & I MAY just uncover info of interest, like PV's books (beyond his first one).

In all probability, may just uncover what the title of this states, more questionable information posted as fact concerning the Beale tale.
It begins and ends with Ward and the 1885 job print pamphlet.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

In all probability, may just uncover what the title of this states, more questionable information posted as fact concerning the Beale tale.
It begins and ends with Ward and the 1885 job print pamphlet.

MAYBE...

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Ward's handwritten application for copyright for the BEALE PAPERS on borrowed Adams & Payne letterhead stationary(his son-in-law place of employment) was with the title page page "of a book" with the statement that "A copy of the book itself, to be sent when finished", which of course would indeed included the story and ciphers.

That statement "to be sent when finished" is a string indicator that James Beverly Ward was the "unnamed" author, AND had not finished writing the BEALE PAPERS story when he applided for the copyright.

ANY proof that the WHOLE story WAS copy-righted...?

 

[ECS]

...why does that matter? It would not change anything.
In the narrative text the "unnamed" author presents his chosen "agent" (Ward) a complete finished manuscript, yet in Ward's copyright application, Ward clearly states the book "to be sent when finished".
That is a major clue that points to Ward as the author of the localized fictional period adventure treasure dime novel.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

...why does that matter? It would not change anything.
In the narrative text the "unnamed" author presents his chosen "agent" (Ward) a complete finished manuscript, yet in Ward's copyright application, Ward clearly states the book "to be sent when finished".
That is a major clue that points to Ward as the author of the localized fictional period adventure treasure dime novel.

NOPE; Ward was only the AGENT for the author... Sherman .

 

[ECS]

John William Sherman was the printer of the BEALE PAPERS, if he was the "unnamed" author he would have supplied a finished printed pamphlet to Ward to included in his copyright application, but as noted in Ward's copyright application with only the title, the actual work was not finished.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

John William Sherman was the printer of the BEALE PAPERS, if he was the "unnamed" author he would have supplied a finished printed pamphlet to Ward to included in his copyright application, but as noted in Ward's copyright application with only the title, the actual work was not finished.

And...?

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Maybe SHERMAN did finish it... dunno, in 1885.

 

[ECS]

Maybe SHERMAN did finish it... dunno, in 1885.

Maybe he supplied the "the game is worth the candle" from Shakespeare's "TWO MEN FROM VERONA" which also included a "missing" letter, as he, along with Ward's fathern was a member of the Lynchburg Thespians.
It is possible that cousin F C Hutter provided the coded ciphers, but passed away before completion, leaving the unfinished to another less adapt with cipher coding. with
As with places and names borrowed from the extended Risque/Ward bloodline, and Ward's wife being born and raised 4 miles from Buford's and being related to Robert Morris it is another connecting clue to a fiction with an "all in the family" referenced base.

 

[franklin]

Maybe he supplied the "the game is worth the candle" from Shakespeare's "TWO MEN FROM VERONA" which also included a "missing" letter, as he, along with Ward's fathern was a member of the Lynchburg Thespians.
It is possible that cousin F C Hutter provided the coded ciphers, but passed away before completion, leaving the unfinished to another less adapt with cipher coding. with
As with places and names borrowed from the extended Risque/Ward bloodline, and Ward's wife being born and raised 4 miles from Buford's and being related to Robert Morris it is another connecting clue to a fiction with an "all in the family" referenced base.

James Beverly Ward's wife Harriett Emmaline Otey was daughter of John Buford Otey and Angelina Brown Otey. She was born in Liberty or Bedford City today. She was not born four miles from Bufords. You are thinking of Paschal Buford's wife. She was the daughter of Isaac Otey and he did live within four miles of Buford's, actually about two miles.

 

[ECS]

Both James Beverly Ward and Clayton Hart (HART PAPERS) married an Otey, and it was an Otey that George Hart introduced Pauline Innis (GOLD IN THE BLUE RIDGE), who was shown an iron box with a torn slip of numbers covered paper, alluded that it may be the one described in the BEALE PAPERS. Another "all in the family" connection.
Harriet Emmaline Otey Ward, also related to Robert Morris as a niece, may have also been a contributor to the BEALE PAPERS story narrative-especially the description of Thomas J Beale which has a feminine feel in the presented details.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Maybe he supplied the "the game is worth the candle" from Shakespeare's "TWO MEN FROM VERONA" which also included a "missing" letter, as he, along with Ward's fathern was a member of the Lynchburg Thespians.
It is possible that cousin F C Hutter provided the coded ciphers, but passed away before completion, leaving the unfinished to another less adapt with cipher coding. with
As with places and names borrowed from the extended Risque/Ward bloodline, and Ward's wife being born and raised 4 miles from Buford's and being related to Robert Morris it is another connecting clue to a fiction with an "all in the family" referenced base.

COULD BE!

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Both James Beverly Ward and Clayton Hart (HART PAPERS) married an Otey, and it was an Otey that George Hart introduced Pauline Innis (GOLD IN THE BLUE RIDGE), who was shown an iron box with a torn slip of numbers covered paper, alluded that it may be the one described in the BEALE PAPERS. Another "all in the family" connection.
Harriet Emmaline Otey Ward, also related to Robert Morris as a niece, may have also been a contributor to the BEALE PAPERS story narrative-especially the description of Thomas J Beale which has a feminine feel in the presented details.

MAY HAVE!

 

[Singlestack Wonder]

James Beverly Ward's wife Harriett Emmaline Otey was daughter of John Buford Otey and Angelina Brown Otey. She was born in Liberty or Bedford City today. She was not born four miles from Bufords. You are thinking of Paschal Buford's wife. She was the daughter of Isaac Otey and he did live within four miles of Buford's, actually about two miles.

When I read stuff like this I hear the narrator on curse of oak island say, “could it be........”.

All the wasted time spent on a fictional story written by a guy that just wanted folks to like and drink with him.....

 

[franklin]

All treasure stories have a hidden meaning. They may not represent the treasure that is readily seen in the story but there is a treasure there in the writing somewhere you just have to find it.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

When I read stuff like this I hear the narrator on curse of oak island say, “could it be........”.

All the wasted time spent on a fictional story written by a guy that just wanted folks to like and drink with him.....

Maybe SO! NO "proof" of drinking habit(s)... (recreational, etc.).

 

[Rebel - KGC]

All treasure stories have a hidden meaning. They may not represent the treasure that is readily seen in the story but there is a treasure there in the writing somewhere you just have to find it.

"Hidden meaning"; how so...?

 

[ECS]

If one studies the family bloodlines of James Beverly Ward and his wife Harriet Emmaline Otey, the source material for the Beale Papers go beyond happenstance and coincidence becoming deliberately apparent inspirations for the Beale story.

Ward's grandfather J B Risqué had a duel with Thomas Beale (not Thomas J Beale) over Risque's niece Julia Hancock.
Julia Hancock married William Clark, who along with Merriweather Lewis had a perilous adventure in the West.
Ward's father was a thespian, familiar with Shakespeare's "TWO MEN OF VERONA", a play about a duel, a girl name Julia, a missing letter, and the phrase, "the game is worth the candle".
Ward's cousin who printed the pamphlet, was a fellow thespian with Giles Ward.
Ward's wife, Harriet was born and raised 4 miles from Buford's and her aunt was Sarah Mitchell, Robert Morris's wife.
Giles Ward was co-owner of a bookstore in Lynchburg which sold Poe's works, including THE GOLD BUG.
Ward, along with his Kennerly and Hutter cousins had lived in St Louis, Mo.
Ward and his Hutter cousins served in the Confederacy and were well versed with codes and ciphers from the War.
Ward was also friends with Max Guggenheimer, who also served in the Confederate army.
Ward's uncle, John Pickrell Risqué, lived in Santa Fe, and was killed while inspecting gold mine in Arizona by Apaches in 1882, three years before the pamphlet's publication.

A writer does write from what he knows and draws from those experiences, and in 1884, James Beverly Ward was in dire financial straights which would have been motivation to write and sell a localized dime novel to sell at the extravagant price for the time of 50 cents.

While there exists NO collaborating evidence outside of the Beale Papers that can confirm this perilous adventure treasure tale, there is a wealth of Ward family "source" material that can be confirmed that is well beyond being mere happenstance and coincidence.

While the above is a basic list of "family" influences, one has yet to examine the Otey family influence in the origin of the story, considering that both Ward and C Hart wives were Otey AND George Hart having introduced Pauline Innis to an Otey, which Innis's book and magazine articles gave the first national attention to the Beale treasure story.
What is the Otey connection to this story?

 

[franklin]

While the above is a basic list of "family" influences, one has yet to examine the Otey family influence in the origin of the story, considering that both Ward and C Hart wives were Otey AND George Hart having introduced Pauline Innis to an Otey, which Innis's book and magazine articles gave the first national attention to the Beale treasure story.
What is the Otey connection to this story?

There were other articles in magazines before Pauline Innis' article in August of 1964. There were also newspaper articles. But I guess you would be correct in your statement of the "first national attention." As for the "Otey" family and others they may not have had anything to do with the treasure story. It could have all came from the mind of James Beverly Ward. But since Ward said he was agent for the author. It must have been someone else. A likely writer would be Thomas McVeigh as he lived in the same household with JBW. Also he was a reporter for the Virginian Newspaper.