Rifle Lock Plate Help

[BuckleBoy]

Hello All,

Could anyone identify this lock plate?




Best Wishes,

Buck

 

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[scratcher]

Glad to see you still pulling the good stuff!

 

[relic lover]

Well its percussion but I'm sure you already know that. That's a really nice relic it's almost fully intact

 

[villagenut]

Looks like that one will clean up real good. Nice one!

 

[BuckleBoy]

Thanks, all! Been 4 weeks since I've been able to detect. Was nice to get something good to start off 2016 with. Any idea what weapon it might've come from?

 

[BosnMate]

It doesn't look to me like a flint lock conversion, there is so much crud and rust that there is no indication of where the frizzen spring would have been, cleaned up you might be able to tell better. All the caplock plates I know about either have cut outs for a drum and nipple, or various shapes for what ever nipple set up the gun maker used. Other than that I can't find a rifle or pistol with that shape of lock plate. It's not a Springfield, Enfield, Mississippi rifle, or any other I'm familiar with. I have a couple of books I can look in, it's just a matter of time. My wife is very sick, so I'm limited on available time, but I'll see what I can do tomorrow.

 

[BuckleBoy]

It doesn't look to me like a flint lock conversion, there is so much crud and rust that there is no indication of where the frizzen spring would have been, cleaned up you might be able to tell better. All the caplock plates I know about either have cut outs for a drum and nipple, or various shapes for what ever nipple set up the gun maker used. Other than that I can't find a rifle or pistol with that shape of lock plate. It's not a Springfield, Enfield, Mississippi rifle, or any other I'm familiar with. I have a couple of books I can look in, it's just a matter of time. My wife is very sick, so I'm limited on available time, but I'll see what I can do tomorrow.

I very much appreciate your expertise, BosnMate. All of the ones I'd seen as well have cut outs for the nipple or drum. I agree that it's an odd shape. Thanks so much for being willing to check further when you have time. Best Wishes for a swift recovery for your wife, and I look forward to hearing back from you.

Best Wishes,

Buck

 

[BuckleBoy]

bump.

 

[Icewing]

Similar in design to the Hawkins rifle locks, but that's just a guess.

 

[DigIron2]

I'd guess Enfield or some kind of country rifle,but I really couldn't tell you.nice find though!

 

[Isaac]

Awesome find! I don't think it's an Enfield.


I think it may be a Springfield.

 

[BuckleBoy]

I'd guess Enfield or some kind of country rifle,but I really couldn't tell you.nice find though!View attachment 1263503View attachment 1263504

#6 in your book is close!

 

[BuckleBoy]

Awesome find! I don't think it's an Enfield.


I think it may be a Springfield.

that's what I thought when I first dug it, but there's no place for the nipple in the lock that I dug, unlike the springfield you posted. It's solid where the hammer comes down...

 

[NOLA_Ken]

It's hard telling as it sits, a lot of flintlock conversions to percussion had the cut out where the frizzen was filled and the nipple welded into the top of the barrel... It sort of resembles a Charleville conversion lock, but it would help to be able to see the ends of the screws for comparison....

Definitely a cool find! I have yet to score any musket parts

 

[BosnMate]

I've looked at a lot of pictures of a lot of locks, and nothing resembles yours. All that leaves me is a guess. There were lot of individuals that built an occasional gun in their
farm shop. It could be from someone who wasn't well known. My guess is a pistol lock, how they made it work Perhaps it was never finished