Season 5

[mytimetoshine]

The metal detecting on the show is a distraction so that they can keep perpetuating the hoax. Many folks have been to that island through out history and dropped things. Just because one finds a coin, spike, Roman sword , etc., it does not mean there is a “treasure“ there. Of course some will still continue to believe in the long running hoax regardless...

except when the spike is dug from 100 ft down in the ground. that was found from ehat they pulled out the hole

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[gazzahk]

except when the spike is dug from 100 ft down in the ground. that was found from ehat they pulled out the hole

There is no way to know how deep that spike come from. That was tailings from the GAL hole. It could of been from 2 feet deep. Also Dunfeild dug up the whole money pit area to at least 140 ft and then bulldozed it all back in when he either gave up because the hole flooded (or found the treasure and flooded the hole himself to avoid paying investors... ) therefore that spike could of been at any depth. It may not of even come from the pit area. It could of just been pushed back into the hole from wherever the tailings of Dunfeild was dumped....

 

[treasure1822]

Okay, I gotta question whether they a "Salting" the old search area's to keep people watching. I have dug up coins not as old as those and they never looked as good as what they're finding.

 

[Robot]

"Spoiler Alert"

It appears to me that with each Episode released for Season 5, the script is following my theory presented.

Episode 2...Freemasons involved

Episode 3...Metal detected at the bottom of The Money Pit

Episode 4...(next week's revelation) Spiral tunnel running up from the Money Pit Shaft

Episode 5...Location of Robot's "X" marks the spot!

Thought I would re-post my theory for those who would like to follow along!

The (Untold) Story of The Oak Island Money Pit

The Oak Island Money Pit was constructed by the “Powers That Be” who were and still to this day, The Secret Force that controls the course of mankind on earth.

This organization is known as - The Freemasons.

The Story of The Oak Island Money Pit begins in the 1760’s

It was conceived by a number of Britains’ high ranking Naval Officers, who were Masonic Degree Members of the Freemasons and belonging to the Premier Grand Lodge of England.

These members were:

Washington Shirley, 5[SUP]th[/SUP] Earl Ferrers — Vice Admiral - Grand Master of the Masonic Lodge — Premier Grand Lodge of England

George Anson, Baron Anson — Admiral of the Fleet

George Keppel, 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] Earl of Albemarle - Commander-In-Chief

Augustus Keppel, 1[SUP]st[/SUP] Viscount Keppel — Rear Admiral — Brother to George Keppel

William Keppel — Lieutenant-General — Brother to George Keppel

George Pocock — Admiral — Commander of the Invasion of Havana

and

Benjamin Franklin — First Grand Master of Pennsylvania who met in 1760 with the Grand Master of England to discuss their plan.


These Masons were members of the Whig Party opposed to the next successor to the throne, the unstable King George III.

Their plot originated after King George III’s continued destruction of their Whig’s political power and his redirection of this power to the Tory Party.

These Freemason feared for the continuance of their organization during the Seven Years’ War, with the imminent invasion of England by the joint forces of France and Spain.

Spain outlawed all forms of secret organizations, including the Freemasons.

The Masons planned redirecting all their fortunes to the “New World” (North America), to enable the transfer of the Masonic organization, if and when these fears materialized.

Their military plan entailed the capture of Havana in 1762.

Havana’s Morro Castle and the Jesuit's Cathedral were the Fort Knox of Spain, holding the plunder of South and Central America’s treasure prior to its shipping to Spain.

The invasion of Havana was under the command of George Keppel, with Admiral George Pocock and Keppel’s two brothers Augustus and William Keppel, commanding the actual attack.

They were successful with the capture of Havana and Fort Morro and its unprecedented amount of treasure.

They also captured a number of the Spanish Fleet, which were needed to accomplish their plan.

Accordingly, Admiral Pocock returned to England with the main English fleet carrying a portion of the treasure, while Augustus and William Keppel along with their crew and Masonic engineers all sworn to secrecy, manned the Spanish Galleons and the British Man of War Vessels.

This treasure was diverted to a small island off the coast of New England and Nova Scotia, now called Oak Island.

At Oak Island, the treasure was buried based on the Masonic “Royal Arch” (Enoch’s Temple) doctrine, consisting of nine arches going down nine levels by way of the main shaft (The Money Pit) which was then dug further down to the bedrock.

From the ninth level another circular tunnel was constructed which ran back up to a point above the known water level, roughly 20 feet underground and then towards the North/West end of the island.

This tunnel stopped roughly 50 feet out under the ocean where an enormous cavern was built to hold the treasure.

The treasure was carted down the main shaft and placed up into this cavern.

To conceal their plot they had the Spanish ships and some of the British ships dismantled with all the wooden parts not used in the construction of the shaft, tunnels, and cavern, burnt and all the metal parts, canons, anchors, and bolts placed at the bottom of the main shaft.

A Flood Tunnel was built out to the ocean to booby trap any treasure seekers attempts to follow down the main shaft.

A large stone was placed above the air lock (8[SUP]th[/SUP] level) as bait to activate the flooding.
This stone had strange engravings on it to entice any unworthy treasure seekers to pause and take the bait (stone) away for deciphering, thus allowing time for the tunnels and main shaft to fill with water and be destroyed forever.

The Masons could access the Treasure Cavern under the ocean by digging down to its entrance from where they triangulated a set Marker on the shore to be.

Once the treasure was secured in the cavern and all the evidence was hidden from the island, it was documented that the Keppels sailed back to England with a few ships and a small portion of the treasure.
They claimed that the remainder of the fleet had sunk in a hurricane on route.

The Masons left several Marker Stones on the island to relocate the treasure.
1 large triangle or more precisely a crude Sextant
Many drilled holed Marker Stones
1 large Marker Stone Cross
These combined Marker Stones from the Freemason’s Star Map are used to cross triangulate to locate the entrances to where the Treasure Cavern and Sir Francis Bacon’s Tomb are located.

Is the treasure still in this cavern?

I believe it was removed shortly after the American Revolution.

One of the three original discoverers of the Money Pit was Daniel McGinnis, who stated he was drawn to the island when he noticed strange lights appearing on the island just prior to his discovery.

These lights were made by the Freemasons when they returned for their treasure.

This Masonic party was headed up by George Washington, President of the United States — acting Grand Master of the Washington DC Masons.

The Treasure’s vast fortune was used to further the power of the Freemasons in their New World and accomplishing Bacon’s dream of a New Acadia.

Sir Francis Bacon, along with his original and unpublished Manuscripts, are resting in his Tomb, located between Nolan’s Cross and the Money Pit, watched over by a statue of the Knights Templar.

 

[Singlestack Wonder]

It appears to me that with each Episode released for Season 5, the script is following my theory presented.

Episode 2...Freemasons involved

Episode 3...Metal detected at the bottom of The Money Pit

Episode 4...(next week's revelation) Spiral tunnel running up from the Money Pit Shaft

Episode 5...Location of Robot's "X" marks the spot!

Thought I would re-post my theory for those who would like to follow along!

The (Untold) Story of The Oak Island Money Pit

The Oak Island Money Pit was constructed by the “Powers That Be” who were and still to this day, The Secret Force that controls the course of mankind on earth.

This organization is known as - The Freemasons.

The Story of The Oak Island Money Pit begins in the 1760’s

It was conceived by a number of Britains’ high ranking Naval Officers, who were Masonic Degree Members of the Freemasons and belonging to the Premier Grand Lodge of England.

These members were:

Washington Shirley, 5[SUP]th[/SUP] Earl Ferrers — Vice Admiral - Grand Master of the Masonic Lodge — Premier Grand Lodge of England

George Anson, Baron Anson — Admiral of the Fleet

George Keppel, 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] Earl of Albemarle - Commander-In-Chief

Augustus Keppel, 1[SUP]st[/SUP] Viscount Keppel — Rear Admiral — Brother to George Keppel

William Keppel — Lieutenant-General — Brother to George Keppel

George Pocock — Admiral — Commander of the Invasion of Havana

and

Benjamin Franklin — First Grand Master of Pennsylvania who met in 1760 with the Grand Master of England to discuss their plan.


These Masons were members of the Whig Party opposed to the next successor to the throne, the unstable King George III.

Their plot originated after King George III’s continued destruction of their Whig’s political power and his redirection of this power to the Tory Party.

These Freemason feared for the continuance of their organization during the Seven Years’ War, with the imminent invasion of England by the joint forces of France and Spain.

Spain outlawed all forms of secret organizations, including the Freemasons.

The Masons planned redirecting all their fortunes to the “New World” (North America), to enable the transfer of the Masonic organization, if and when these fears materialized.

Their military plan entailed the capture of Havana in 1762.

Havana’s Morro Castle and the Jesuit's Cathedral were the Fort Knox of Spain, holding the plunder of South and Central America’s treasure prior to its shipping to Spain.

The invasion of Havana was under the command of George Keppel, with Admiral George Pocock and Keppel’s two brothers Augustus and William Keppel, commanding the actual attack.

They were successful with the capture of Havana and Fort Morro and its unprecedented amount of treasure.

They also captured a number of the Spanish Fleet, which were needed to accomplish their plan.

Accordingly, Admiral Pocock returned to England with the main English fleet carrying a portion of the treasure, while Augustus and William Keppel along with their crew and Masonic engineers all sworn to secrecy, manned the Spanish Galleons and the British Man of War Vessels.

This treasure was diverted to a small island off the coast of New England and Nova Scotia, now called Oak Island.

At Oak Island, the treasure was buried based on the Masonic “Royal Arch” (Enoch’s Temple) doctrine, consisting of nine arches going down nine levels by way of the main shaft (The Money Pit) which was then dug further down to the bedrock.

From the ninth level another circular tunnel was constructed which ran back up to a point above the known water level, roughly 20 feet underground and then towards the North/West end of the island.

This tunnel stopped roughly 50 feet out under the ocean where an enormous cavern was built to hold the treasure.

The treasure was carted down the main shaft and placed up into this cavern.

To conceal their plot they had the Spanish ships and some of the British ships dismantled with all the wooden parts not used in the construction of the shaft, tunnels, and cavern, burnt and all the metal parts, canons, anchors, and bolts placed at the bottom of the main shaft.

A Flood Tunnel was built out to the ocean to booby trap any treasure seekers attempts to follow down the main shaft.

A large stone was placed above the air lock (8[SUP]th[/SUP] level) as bait to activate the flooding.
This stone had strange engravings on it to entice any unworthy treasure seekers to pause and take the bait (stone) away for deciphering, thus allowing time for the tunnels and main shaft to fill with water and be destroyed forever.

The Masons could access the Treasure Cavern under the ocean by digging down to its entrance from where they triangulated a set Marker on the shore to be.

Once the treasure was secured in the cavern and all the evidence was hidden from the island, it was documented that the Keppels sailed back to England with a few ships and a small portion of the treasure.
They claimed that the remainder of the fleet had sunk in a hurricane on route.

The Masons left several Marker Stones on the island to relocate the treasure.
1 large triangle or more precisely a crude Sextant
Many drilled holed Marker Stones
1 large Marker Stone Cross
These combined Marker Stones from the Freemason’s Star Map are used to cross triangulate to locate the entrances to where the Treasure Cavern and Sir Francis Bacon’s Tomb are located.

Is the treasure still in this cavern?

I believe it was removed shortly after the American Revolution.

One of the three original discoverers of the Money Pit was Daniel McGinnis, who stated he was drawn to the island when he noticed strange lights appearing on the island just prior to his discovery.

These lights were made by the Freemasons when they returned for their treasure.

This Masonic party was headed up by George Washington, President of the United States — acting Grand Master of the Washington DC Masons.

The Treasure’s vast fortune was used to further the power of the Freemasons in their New World and accomplishing Bacon’s dream of a New Acadia.

Sir Francis Bacon, along with his original and unpublished Manuscripts, are resting in his Tomb, located between Nolan’s Cross and the Money Pit, watched over by a statue of the Knights Templar.


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All unsubstantiated rhetoric. No evidence has ever been presented that a “money pit” ever existed.

 

[petetherocker]

 

[Robot]

It's like "Posting Here"...Calls out the "Same"...Walking Dead!

Going from "Post" to "Post" unable to be put out of their Miseries!

 

[lokiblossom]

Going from "Post" to "Post" unable to be put out of their Miseries!

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Stay with it Robot, there are some who don't believe in mystery's as they already have all the answers!

Cheers, Loki

 

[gazzahk]

Okay, I gotta question whether they a "Salting" the old search area's to keep people watching. I have dug up coins not as old as those and they never looked as good as what they're finding.

If they were salting you would think they could plant something better then a few near worthless coins and a couple of old spoons. Those coins could of been the owner of the house whose foundations they found coin collection. Totally have nothing to do with the pit and treasure... If they wanted to salt they could do something like that snake island treasure show and at least find a planted piece if gold...

What gets me is more why they think those old coins and other rubbish is interesting or significant in anyway to possible treasure... Do they think the Knights Templar were playing dice in the dirt with English coins while they were burying the Arc of the Covenant as they had become bored reading Shakespheres lost manuscripts....

All they have shown is that Oak island has had people on it for at least a few hundred years... They have shown nothing about treasure being there.... If it was ever there it is well gone....

 

[Singlestack Wonder]

If they were salting you would think they could plant something better then a few near worthless coins and a couple of old spoons. Those coins could of been the owner of the house whose foundations they found coin collection. Totally have nothing to do with the pit and treasure... If they wanted to salt they could do something like that snake island treasure show and at least find a planted piece if gold...

What gets me is more why they think those old coins and other rubbish is interesting or significant in anyway to possible treasure... Do they think the Knights Templar were playing dice in the dirt with English coins while they were burying the Arc of the Covenant as they had become bored reading Shakespheres lost manuscripts....

All they have shown is that Oak island has had people on it for at least a few hundred years... They have shown nothing about treasure being there.... If it was ever there it is well gone....

Incredible logic displayed in the above post...

 

[Singlestack Wonder]

Stay with it Robot, there are some who don't believe in mystery's as they already have all the answers!

Cheers, Loki

Please provide any proof of an actual mystery on oak island. A known hoax to milk money out of investors is not a mystery...wait...perhaps that is the mystery! How easily people are fooled into letting go of their money...

 

[treasure1822]

If they were salting you would think they could plant something better then a few near worthless coins and a couple of old spoons. Those coins could of been the owner of the house whose foundations they found coin collection. Totally have nothing to do with the pit and treasure... If they wanted to salt they could do something like that snake island treasure show and at least find a planted piece if gold...

What gets me is more why they think those old coins and other rubbish is interesting or significant in anyway to possible treasure... Do they think the Knights Templar were playing dice in the dirt with English coins while they were burying the Arc of the Covenant as they had become bored reading Shakespheres lost manuscripts....

All they have shown is that Oak island has had people on it for at least a few hundred years... They have shown nothing about treasure being there.... If it was ever there it is well gone....

You heard them...Captain Kidd's time period...all those nothing coins are not expensive to buy...Gold coins on the other hand, that may not be in the budget...why did they "salt" mines in the old days, to keep others interest, they may be doing the same thing now. You know why they have people like us who have theories on their show...to shut us up and leave them alone...They have their own ideas and they are right back to doing it which is drilling a bunch of holes til they find it.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Stay with it Robot, there are some who don't believe in mystery's as they already have all the answers!

Cheers, Loki

Some of us don't think there was ever even a question.

 

[gazzahk]

Please provide any proof of an actual mystery on oak island. A known hoax to milk money out of investors is not a mystery...wait...perhaps that is the mystery! How easily people are fooled into letting go of their money...

Yep... It is a truly fascinating story.. The amount of time, money, lives and effort that have gone into looking for a treasure that no one has ever seen or is ever known to have existed.

(with possible exception of the descendants 'unproven story' which has a small amount of treasure leaving Oak island on the day the pit was found - buried at less than 10 feet) I do not think there is another story like this one. All other 'lost treasures' are lost because people do not know exactly where they are ie Dutchmans mine.

I am very happy that the Lagina brothers are set to PROVE that there is no treasure buried at the bottom of the pit areas with there pattern drilling method. It will provide a ending to the story..

The only thing we will never know is WAS THERE EVER ANY TREASURE BURIED THERE?

You do wonder if Dan is feeling a bit foolish these days....

 

[lokiblossom]

Please provide any proof of an actual mystery on oak island. A known hoax to milk money out of investors is not a mystery...wait...perhaps that is the mystery! How easily people are fooled into letting go of their money...

The dating of the coconut fibre proves that somebody from Europe passed through Oak Island before the 15th century. No matter what, that in itself is a mystery!!!
Personally, I have never believed any treasure was buried on Oak Island, but I don't deny anybody of their own right to accept that possibility. Also, if I did think that this was all a hoax to milk investors or those interested of their hard earned money I would not watch the show. Just saying!
Cheers, Loki

 

[MikeN]

For example why not try the dye test in C1 and see where the water is actually coming from..

Since the air pressure from the bore hole forced water up C1 to 31 feet above sea level instead of out to sea implies that the salt water has no free path from that combined chamber to the ocean.

 

[Honest Samuel]

I believe that the story is true, but, then there is the water flooding problems.

 

[gazzahk]

Since the air pressure from the bore hole forced water up C1 to 31 feet above sea level instead of out to sea implies that the salt water has no free path from that combined chamber to the ocean.

Good point.. That is why I wish they would bring on an expert to discuss/explain what has happened and what the significance means. There must be a connection to the ocean or the water would not be there. If the connection is a very small one so the pressure forced water up as it could not all get back through a small hole to ocean that would suggest they could drain the cavern (This is just my guess as I am no expert). I also suppose the path back to the ocean could be very long and under a lot of pressure so the water was forced up as there was not sufficient pressure to push the water back towards the ocean. It would be good if someone who has knowledge of these things could come on here and contribute to this with the most plausible explanations for the phenomena witnessed... It would be great if the Lagiana brothers explained it on the show rather then showing us all the old rubbish that they can find on Oak Island with a metal detector.


edit: Another possibility is that the drilling/pressure caused a cave in in the chamber (or connected chamber) and this is what caused the water to rush out of C1 (and bubble up through ground)

 

[gazzahk]

I believe that the story is true, but, then there is the water flooding problems.

What do you mean? Which story?

 

[gazzahk]

Is the treasure still in this cavern?...
I believe it was removed shortly after the American Revolution….
One of the three original discoverers of the Money Pit was Daniel McGinnis, who stated he was drawn
to the island when he noticed strange lights appearing on the island just prior to his discovery….
These lights were made by the Freemasons when they returned for their treasure.

Robot why did the treasure recovers bother to re bury the pit after getting there treasure? How did no one notice the recovers major operation to get the treasure back other than a few lights if

This tunnel stopped roughly 50 feet out under the ocean where an enormous cavern was built to hold the treasure.

there must of been heaps of treasure so the recovers would of at least needed a big ship and a large recovery crew.. Why are there no records/sightings of this other than some lights seen on the island?

How did the tunnel builders avoid flooding. The underground cavities are not filled by a single flood tunnel. This is shown by the fact that cave in pit, 10x and C1 all filled up with salt water. There is no way one flood tunnel just coincidently happened to intersect all three (not to mention every other hole that has ever been dug in the area has filled up with water)..