Spain has got its underwater cultural heritage back

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mariner said:
Diggummup:

"Common thieves, always have been always will be" applied to the whole Spanish nation: fact not bigotted Xenophobic opinion? I think not.

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Let me re-phrase then- Spain has a lot of "cultural heritage" to be proud of... yeah right. Those in power are Common thieves, always have been always will be, a zebra doesn't change his stripes. Same goes for the one who hold the power in this country. Have a nice day compadre.
 

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You can't "discover" something that already exists. Truth be told the main objective of Spanish explorers was to win the favors of their rulers by expanding their "empire" to have more control of the world and by relishing them with gifts of gold and silver. In doing so they continuously pillaged, raped and murdered countless thousands of indigenous peoples from the lands they inhabited for thousands of years. Spain has a lot of "cultural heritage" to be proud of... yeah right. Common thieves, always have been always will be, a zebra doesn't change his stripes. "Conquistador", the word itself says it all.

Isn't it time that we stopped this kind of Xenophobic rant on TNet??












It's one thing to have an opinion on the Odyssey saga, quite another to express "hate" opinions like this.

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Xenophobic? Hate? Please! Nothing I have stated is even remotely unreasonable nor unwarranted. Learn your history as it pertains to Spanish explorers. I didn't even mention the thousands of people they killed by disease and pestilence. This is the country that started the slave trade in the "New World" for christ sake. Opinion is one thing, the reply you expressed is such an example. Fact is another (that'd be mine). Have a great day. :icon_sunny:
[/quote] This coming from a US citizen, How did the US treat it's slaves !! Wake up to yourself :o Who are you kidding :dontknow:
How did the Pilgrims end up taking the land from the native Indians, with hand sake or a bullet to head !!!!!
You are just upset a US court ( Not European ) has banged Odyssey on the Head. suck it UP :binkybaby: :binkybaby: :binkybaby:
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M&B Ossy

“because he was ashamed of Britain’s colonial past, ‘when we were out raping and plundering and stealing”

I agree with him. I would also give back that Monkey covered rock off "La Línea de la Concepción"

But unfortunately there is absolutely no difference in governments claiming rights to "Islands or Land" gained in that period, than there is in governments claiming rights to "Silver and Gold" gained in that period.

The only difference is the British did not dig up the Falklands and put in ships to send home ! (but they might start to do this with the Oil & Gas they have just found out there)

I suppose what is good enough for Spain must also be good enough for the British, (and after all Spain did start the trend of invading for profit) ;D
 

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MORE AND BEYOND OSSY said:
This coming from a US citizen, How did the US treat it's slaves !! Wake up to yourself :o Who are you kidding :dontknow:
How did the Pilgrims end up taking the land from the native Indians, with hand sake or a bullet to head !!!!!
You are just upset a US court ( Not European ) has banged Odyssey on the Head. suck it UP :binkybaby: :binkybaby: :binkybaby:
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A case of monkey see monkey. Learned from those who perfected it, starting with good old Christopher Columbus. Not Britian, nor Spain, nor France has anything to be proud of when it comes to the "colonization" of the Americas. Crimes and atrocities against humanity were committed by all of them. I could care less if it was a European court , American court, or a Chinese court for that matter. I believe in finders keepers after more than 200 years on the ocean floor. Those who put the money, blood, sweat and tears into the recovery of the coins should be the rightfull overseers of it. At the very least, compensation for the monies spent in the recovery of the treasure, or perhaps a simple thank you would even help. But as usual Spain in all of it's self perceived superiority is too good for such a thing. They've painted Odyssey Marine as modern day pirates. Don't act like Spain is trying to preserve it's "cultural heritage" by the acquisiton of these coins, we ALL know that is not the case. I can't wait to see how many of these 594,000 or so coins actually show up for public display at museums around the country (Spain), as the Spanish Cultural Ministry claims will be the case. Yeah right.
 

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Alexandre said:
diggummup said:
Those who put the money, blood, sweat and tears into the recovery of the coins should be the rightfull overseers of it. At the very least, compensation for the monies spent in the recovery of the treasure, or perhaps a simple thank you would even help.
Quite the contrary: Spain is going to ask Odyssey to pay their legal fees...

http://translate.google.pt/translat...7/cultura/abci-wert-odyssey-201202271335.html
Another prime example.
 

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Ossy if were so hated why the hell does everybody keep asking for our help. Simply stop asking our country to bail yours out of the ongoing problems you keep having. Your country is older act like it. Your green economy and the other issues your fraudulent government politicians keep getting themselves into. Hopefully the U.S. will stop helping some of the European clown countries and let them fall on their butts. But to say nothing will happen to those coins. Come on you have one of the worlds most corrupt governments. Your in denial or just have no common sense. Just be sure to PM everybody and apologize when it happens.
 

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VOC said:
But unfortunately there is absolutely no difference in governments claiming rights to "Islands or Land" gained in that period, than there is in governments claiming rights to "Silver and Gold" gained in that period.

They should have stick with Australia, too...

Hey, Ossy, have seen this letter of Quirós to the King, relating him what he had found in Australia? :)
 

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diggummup said:
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I used a kit-built metal detector all over southern Spain back in the early '60's, but then the place wasn't run by Euro-Socialists back then... :laughing7:
No it was run by an authoritarian dictator.
...Who kept things nice and friendly with the U.S. and their other foreign visitors.
 

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Alexandre said:
VOC said:
But unfortunately there is absolutely no difference in governments claiming rights to "Islands or Land" gained in that period, than there is in governments claiming rights to "Silver and Gold" gained in that period.

They should have stick with Australia, too...

Hey, Ossy, have seen this letter of Quirós to the King, relating him what he had found in Australia? :)
Fantastic Alexander :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Will add to my research.
Ossy
PS. Most Ausies don't even know that Quiros named Australia :read2:
 

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The only difference is the British did not dig up the Falklands and put in ships to send home ! (but they might start to do this with the Oil & Gas they have just found out there)

I suppose what is good enough for Spain must also be good enough for the British, (and after all Spain did start the trend of invading for profit) ;D

Don't forget who killed William Baffin... ;)
 

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He must have been the first and last guy the Portuguese ever managed to shoot in combat :laughing7:
 

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What ta ell has this got ta do with the Price of Yack Butter in china?

What Spain robbed from the New to them New World?
 

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"It's a shame England can't play football"

Lucky enough we are wealthy enough to pay the poor people from the third world (including Spanish and Portuguese) to come and run around for us in the Premiership (World largest and most popular league).

Don’t have a dog and bark yourself :laughing7:
 

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"It's a shame England can't play football"

Lucky enough we are wealthy enough to pay the poor people from the third world (including Spanish and Portuguese) to come and run around for us in the Premiership (World largest and most popular league).

Don’t have a dog and bark yourself :laughing7:
:laughing7: :laughing7: Did you mean come on over and show the English how to play :laughing9:
For Your Information, Real Madrid worlds richest Club, Has more European and World trophies than all the English clubs put together.
Worlds best current club team, Barcelona with the current 6 best players in the world, Not to mention Worlds best team Spain !!
woof woof
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