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Hello usernotfound, that may be 4 directions North / South = bottom to top, east and west to verifiy that its 4 directions and corner marker there or somewhere near by

Well, that "may be" a lot of things. Guessing is always fun, but this particular stone has brothers and sisters. Not sure if you can see it in the picture but there is a cross and a V on the face of it.
 

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Well, that "may be" a lot of things. Guessing is always fun, but this particular stone has brothers and sisters. Not sure if you can see it in the picture but there is a cross and a V on the face of it.


Taps finger...

Given that diamonds definitely have more than one meaning or use.. I appreciate that Dsty has given us the benefit of his judgement, based on over 40 years of real, ground walking, bushwacking, hill climbing experience that it MIGHT mean directions. Not that it is, but it might. I would not put that opinion in the category of simply "guessing" youngin. But everyone is entitled to their opinion. I'm not sure you thought that comment through completely.
 

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yes desertmmons. he has been spot on, on every call he has made on my photos. i went back and checked, and he was right. i really like his tracking style. i hope i can get like that some day. look at just a photo of a stone,and nail it. thats some bad a_ _ stuff right there. i really like lovnit posts too, he has some great info. too. wish he still would post some of his stuff. hope all is well with him.
 

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Taps finger...

Given that diamonds definitely have more than one meaning or use.. I appreciate that Dsty has given us the benefit of his judgement, based on over 40 years of real, ground walking, bushwacking, hill climbing experience that it MIGHT mean directions. Not that it is, but it might. I would not put that opinion in the category of simply "guessing" youngin. But everyone is entitled to their opinion. I'm not sure you thought that comment through completely.

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That was a guess on behalf of dsty, simply due to the fact he is not familiar with the actual site...ergo, his words "may be". I did not discredit his guess, I simply gave him for more information in regards to the monument. There are other diamonds all facing different directions and not exactly N/S/E/W, or not exactly NE/SE/SW/NW, but yes, their placement is important. It doesn't take 40 years to gain information and years do not exactly equate to knowledge (many have proven this), but I still respect the man!

Notice I did not ask for information, but dsty gave it freely. I was simply posting a picture to share.
I respect dsty. I respect you. I am not here to troll, but I am also not here to kiss anyone's ass. The truth is the truth. It is, what it is.
 

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Here area a few pictures for you DM, but there are more. "corner marker" -sure. four directions...not so much.

Hopefully this will clear up your thoughts on my post to dsty.
 

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I have worked with Usernotfound and he has shared some very good information with me. He is years beyond me in hunting and I enjoy his participation. If User made a comment, it was to show something he has has found. I can not begin to understand users way of tracking, but it has proven effective. Dsty I had doubts about in the past. I was very wrong about Dsty, he is good. I have some of dsty comments wrote down in my field book for reference. I am just starting to understand what the script and the basic set up of sites. I never used script of x's and diamonds before. It will take me about 45 mins to verify any and all information posted as I have several working sites I can check the information on. I track on large monument markers. Those v's and x's I have been missing are important. I am reading two sets of authors right now. I have figured out a lot on my own, but feel I am on the right track. I have had help from many. Kenworthy, and the Gold House Triology is keeping me busy. I am finding a hidden trail with in the trails. Not sure if its the kings trail, or a 4th trail we don't know about.

I hope dsty and user continue to put their two cents in. I am gonna keep digging till I find something. I started this post for the new guys like myself. I am not afraid to show real pictures of real sites. I will show real holes. What I don't show is the hidden trail. I would get my shorts ate for that. I will be going out this weekend and will have confirmation or a new trail. please keep sharing guys for the lurkers and new guys who just want to see what they should be looking for.

We are all experts in our own right. I know user has found some good stuff. Dsty I can say knows his stuff. I can prove it. Post anything, and I can probably show you a picture of it. I take between 300 and 400 pictures a hour. I take video too.

I need a answer to this, why make a entrance with a cap stone, but the real entrance is up top down a rabbit hole?

Why did they put maps on hearts? How would one know where to start?

I have several heads and signs pointing to a hole up top. Its not very big. What should I expect to find in it?

I have turtles marking a covered mine, how deep do I have to dig to get in it? Would a two box be able to really identify a cache or buried mine entrance?

What is the best detector that will go through solid rock?

I will be re visiting old campsites this summer looking for small caches. Anyone ever do this? Got any pointers, ill share it with ya if I get lucky?

Nothing wrong with a good ol fashion argument, keep it clean and last man(woman) standing wins I guess?

Oh, last I found a perfectly square hole up high hidden behind a natural outcropping, has anyone ever found such a thing? What did you find inside it? If I am to risk life and limb, I want it to be worth it.
 

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<a href="The Hole Photo by CrucesNomad | Photobucket" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z409/CrucesNomad/thehole_zpsf5d5152c.jpg" border="0" alt="The Hole photo thehole_zpsf5d5152c.jpg"/></a>Well lets see if this works. I present you with the hole.
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This post is part of what I was asking about. I know the holes in heart are caches, how do I orient it to the site? The hole up top is a clue, there is a heart 90' degrees up top on side telling me to get on top of this rock. I have markers like a horse monument 1/4 mile away also sending me here, plus other monuments not posted.
 

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This post is part of what I was asking about. I know the holes in heart are caches, how do I orient it to the site? The hole up top is a clue, there is a heart 90' degrees up top on side telling me to get on top of this rock. I have markers like a horse monument 1/4 mile away also sending me here, plus other monuments not posted.
Hey Casca, 'your going to keep on digging until you find something'. Just love that spirit, that determination, it sounds like me. I'll never give up either and always give it a valiant try. And it always helps, when you enjoy what your doing, 'the thrill of the search'. Just returned from the mountains yesterday after a 10 day stay and wanting to go back already. Besides treasure hunting, also enjoy trying to solve hidden messages in the Spanish monuments. It's fun! Everything you study something again, long enough, you will see something new. It's a puzzle, especially a rock-outcrop like this one with a cluster of different 'face-profiles' and 'symbols'. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What I see this time, I didn't see last time. When you said other monuments were leading you to this specific spot, it gave me a clue what to look for. Assuming maybe this is the spot, and the mine or vault is here, I starting looking at it differently. So thinking if there were one or more entrances. Asking myself where would they be? --------- Also knowing that the Spaniards were experts in concealing their entrances and in many instances they made their entrances just big enough to crawl through. This is how they kept them secret. They also covered their entrances and many times filled in the surface several feet with a caliche {a cement mixture made with materials that would match the existing rock}. But you will notice a slight difference in the color and texture. And it will be 'rock-hard'. It can be chiseled by hand, but it will take a long time. The best way is to get an electric jack-hammer and a generator to chop through. The caliche fill would be about 6 feet deep. Somethings they would cover an entrance with dirt/sand, a large boulder, and caliche. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It's late, getting tired, will finish in the morning.
 

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I have seen such caliche, so now I have another spot to go back and look at. When I figure out the riddle, I cant believe how simple it really is. Im 260 and just don't fit in the holes, lol. Like you need to be the size of a 10 year old. The face clusters are a center of a area. Tells you what to look for and where the next trail is. I have seen holes marked two ways, turtles, and shadow sign. I can show you some great examples. But that is another site. I promised that site to a guy who can work it. So I don't post it anymore. They didn't travel very fast, and you can find camps every few miles. It didn't take me long to figure there was three trails. I just started reading the marks on the monuments. I have some climbing to do, unless I can get some skinny guy to do it for me. Yes I have the holes. Look forward to your post trailrider.
 

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View attachment 781090 Here is a hole for you trailrider. I have marked a owl, to the left of the owl is a crevice that has a large square shat that goes vertically in. The crevice is a optical illusion and you have to get at 90' degrees of it to see its hollow behind there. There is a sight stone to the hill on the left. A large elephant with a baby greets you at the entrance to the trail here. Have elephants in three places here real close..........I once believed this was in the area Padre La Rue found the large vein at the base of the mountain. The Calche I told you about is 1/2 mile away at the base of another peak full of symbols and sign. I located a knife cap stone with a burning knife etched in it. But that isn't the entrance, its further up the cliff face. You have to like rattle snakes, green mojaves to go here. Cant see the buggers till you step on em.
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Here is a old spot. turtleNsentry.jpg
 

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Good morning Casca, Just had my morning coffee and looking at a mountain outside the window. When I woke up had the good LORD on my mind. When I think of HIM it gives me peace and joy, complete contentment. ---Tell to the generation to come the praises of the LORD, and HIS strength and HIS wonderful works that HE has done. Psalm 78:4 IMAG0003 (7).JPG Lets love the LORD with all our minds, hearts, and souls. Lets pray for HIS will, not ours. IMAG0014 (7).JPG
 

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Trailrider, I can show pictures of the dt's as folks like to call them. Any 200 year old hole is dangerous, suffocating dust, methane gas, rattles, bee's, unseen abit. There is a course online that talks about mine safety. Also letting someone knowledgeable of the area your in is important too. The above pictures are not of the same area, but same folks most likely made them. I don't believe in false trails. But I do believe in false holes. As for vaults, I have my suspicions and am waiting for some equipment to confirm Im right or not. Finding the hole is easy compared to getting in the hole. Im seeing holes that are smooth walled and well worked and others that look like natural fissures. We are following folks who were excellent surveyors and stone workers. I rarely dig, but there will be signs even at the hole as you have said you have found. The high fast trail is the trail that rewards, you can play with turtles and hearts all day down below. Im told x never marks the spot. That is only half correct. Folks who see what I am seeing know what I mean. So many hunters profess expertise, but have never held treasure in their hand or seen a real treasure hole. I go to known treasure sites and find what sign is left and how it relates to the hole. I suspect there are folks who disagree, and say, "How can you say there is no false trails?" I can show examples of what I post but don't wish to give away all my secrets. I am able to spend countless hours just setting at or exploring sites and would love to help you find those vaults your looking for. Now here is something I agree with, geology. I even do a read on the geological history. That would help folks doing the LDM also, hint hint. My sites are bedrock up against lava tubes and vents. There is natural fault lines that run on the east side of the mountains. Im looking at mostly hard rock mines, and a few pit mines. I was able to meet a older gentleman who was very successful hunter, what he hunts I wont say. He was nice enough to share a book on known pit mines of the region. I have found each of those areas also contained Spanish Sign. I was happy the other day when I used a copy of Kenworthy to decode what a mine had in it. I have not bought books on purpose so I could learn what I could on my own. But I found the book confirmed my program of hunting. Yes I have a program, and simple set of step I do each site. A series of test to confirm what I have. I don't just post rock randomly and ask what do I got? I post and see what folks can tell me I don't know. I test out all responses, and try to see how some folks come to their conclusions. Now I have bounced all over the place with this paragraph, and could write a book on any of the subjects I shared. If your reading this and looking at rocks, that you have been given some very good information in these post. Let me sum up the walk with God you will take when entering these ancient areas. The pain and strife of just being in these areas. You don't have to believe in God, but he walks with you and believes in you. Faith is part of the trail, as you will come to a break in the trail that leaves you scratching your head. I think we see what we are meant to see, and your mind set will determine just how much you find. Good Luck.
 

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100_5150.JPG A bloody and empty baby blanket. Something you don't want to find on a hunt.
 

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Casca, I posted some information about the death traps, because I didn't know if you were aware of them or believed they existed. And if you get in any of those mines and there were traps, I did not want any harm to come to you. It was to only give you an awareness. Also an awareness to the many other people who may read this post, if they choose to believe it. I wish you success!
Trail, I have two holes with large snake head boulders at the entrance. I always wondered what would be inside. You say I can just push them back into the mine then in a side wall trap? I was supposed to go out today but got distracted. I have had ledges fall out beneath me, I have found evidence of poison in the dirt at the entrance, I have seen the large rocks balanced on a pebble that is aimed at the hole. I have been swarmed by bees, and had snakes in a hole I was about to enter. I have seen boulders full of quarter sized rock chips most likely to smother you should you trip that trap. Yes I believe there is DT's.

I wanted to ad, I was in a crevice and had a large boulder almost squash me. It appeared back filled below the boulder, I did not explore further, I was on a mission.
 

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I usually never go in farther than I can put my camera on the end of a walking stick. I hunt solo, and that could be a problem if something happened. Interesting to know about the almost volcanos, I can think of several of these I passed by.
 

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