somehiker
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Hal:
As I recall,at the time you posted the illustration of the 18th century Jesuit father (with the pointed hat) as part of a claim of Jesuit involvement in the LDM,I commented favourably on your post and asked for the source of the illustration.You ignored the question for some time,and others as well,until pressed on the matter.Only then,did you admit that the hat had been re-done.Photos and other illustrations altered to the degree of that one was,should be identified as such at the time IMO.That,along with wholesale deletion of thread topics and presentation of personal theories as "fact", is the beef in my "stew".
If you find the "aggressive" questioning by some members,including myself, who have spent many days/weeks/months/and years in the mountains,as well as contributing their first hand experience and photos to this website to be objectionable,it's probably because of your lack of same.If you were to go back through the topics,you may notice that we show no quarter to each other's staments and claims.We do after all,regardless of our convictions,also support vigorous debate of each idea or new claims of "I Found IT".
Especially where absolute claims are made,using G/E images as "proof",and further claims of pending publication and publicity are also made.
Peralta seems to understand this,as he has now responded to the question.
I have shared many of my theories on various aspects of the Stone Maps and the challenges faced by any who try for a solution.Where questions have been asked,or doubts raised,I have made my replies as promply as possible.
Much of what I,and others have shared..."here"...within the last year and a half has been deleted by yourself,the author of those now lost topics.
Such tactics,historically,seem to be all too commonly employed by those who come to lecture,rather than present their ideas for discussion.
Because my own solution remains incomplete,with a number of loose ends which need further research,I have not..nor will not..make claims of having found anything other than what I have posted in the form of photos taken in the field or offer opinions based on what I have personally discovered.
"A search for "Mormonism/the spirit world" shows the Mormons to have some interesting beliefs on the subject,and links to your graphic". "Could you share the link to this image? Took me some effort to find that image and it was not online."
I was not the one who posted the illustration.
Is it not you who should provide the source?
That's the was it usually works...or should.
I for example could post an illustration, such as this one, implying possession of proof of a Jesuit treasure,perhaps discovered by shocked Franciscan monks.
By providing my source however,I allow the viewers of my post to read the story for which the graphic was made...for themselves.
It's a good illustration...but it's also good fiction.
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/m/moajrnl/acw8433.1-08.171/5:3?rgn=full+text;view=image
Regards:SH.
As I recall,at the time you posted the illustration of the 18th century Jesuit father (with the pointed hat) as part of a claim of Jesuit involvement in the LDM,I commented favourably on your post and asked for the source of the illustration.You ignored the question for some time,and others as well,until pressed on the matter.Only then,did you admit that the hat had been re-done.Photos and other illustrations altered to the degree of that one was,should be identified as such at the time IMO.That,along with wholesale deletion of thread topics and presentation of personal theories as "fact", is the beef in my "stew".
If you find the "aggressive" questioning by some members,including myself, who have spent many days/weeks/months/and years in the mountains,as well as contributing their first hand experience and photos to this website to be objectionable,it's probably because of your lack of same.If you were to go back through the topics,you may notice that we show no quarter to each other's staments and claims.We do after all,regardless of our convictions,also support vigorous debate of each idea or new claims of "I Found IT".
Especially where absolute claims are made,using G/E images as "proof",and further claims of pending publication and publicity are also made.
Peralta seems to understand this,as he has now responded to the question.
I have shared many of my theories on various aspects of the Stone Maps and the challenges faced by any who try for a solution.Where questions have been asked,or doubts raised,I have made my replies as promply as possible.
Much of what I,and others have shared..."here"...within the last year and a half has been deleted by yourself,the author of those now lost topics.
Such tactics,historically,seem to be all too commonly employed by those who come to lecture,rather than present their ideas for discussion.
Because my own solution remains incomplete,with a number of loose ends which need further research,I have not..nor will not..make claims of having found anything other than what I have posted in the form of photos taken in the field or offer opinions based on what I have personally discovered.
"A search for "Mormonism/the spirit world" shows the Mormons to have some interesting beliefs on the subject,and links to your graphic". "Could you share the link to this image? Took me some effort to find that image and it was not online."
I was not the one who posted the illustration.
Is it not you who should provide the source?
That's the was it usually works...or should.
I for example could post an illustration, such as this one, implying possession of proof of a Jesuit treasure,perhaps discovered by shocked Franciscan monks.
By providing my source however,I allow the viewers of my post to read the story for which the graphic was made...for themselves.
It's a good illustration...but it's also good fiction.
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/m/moajrnl/acw8433.1-08.171/5:3?rgn=full+text;view=image
Regards:SH.
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