Stone tools found while digging old bottles

[dduffy]

Wow! went out Saturday morning and I'm glad i did, I found this awesome full groove axe it is 4 inches long and 3 inches wide and a grooved looking stone. It is so hard to believe I found them. I started out medal detecting and found this small building that was about 9'x9' stone foundation with brick walls. The floor boards were removed in the center of the floor. I could see that it was being used to dump old rusty cans and i figured that there had to be bottles down deeper. I picked a spot and went down as far as i could stacking the dirt ,cans and broken bottles up against the wall. The deeper i got the more glass i found. most of the bottles had been broken with stones and bricks so more bottles would fit I'm guessing. Everyonce in awhile I would find a unbroken bottle. I found the clay pot directly below the door. No dates or writing on it wonder how old it is? I was down 5' and hit gravel went down below that and found more bottles then the sides statred falling in on me and i figured it was probably not safe anymore. i was looking down just before i started to climb out and saw the curved part of the axe stone and picked it up. I could not believe what i was holding allot older than the bottles i was finding. Then i found the stone with the grooves in it, at first i thought it was a bottle. I climbing out and cleaned off my finds. You really never know what your going to find. I wanted to get back down in the hole but i figured i would need to come back with someone to help. so i filled in the hole.
I'm just wondering if someone threw them down there to break the bottles or were they in the gravel. This is by far the most fun i have had in a long time. It would take allot of work to get all of the dirt out of the building but it would be fun to find the rest of the unbroken items down there. Any information you can give me about my finds would be great.

Thanks for looking
Duff

 

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[Irchr]

This needs more attention.

this looks more pre-columbian. Take a look at Mayan or Aztec weapons. They were traded all the way up into what is now the US. But I saw several of them at the Anthropological Museum in Mexico City.

 

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[Swingit]

Awesome Finds

 

[seaguy]

I have several Indian artifact books and found two examples that were simular to the object with the hole through it. They were called Banner stones or atlatl weights. They counter balanced a spear thrower stick. It's shape is not found as often as the flat or "bowtie looking" type.

 

[EagleDown]

This needs more attention.

this looks more pre-columbian. Take a look at Mayan or Aztec weapons. They were traded all the way up into what is now the US. But I saw several of them at the Anthropological Museum in Mexico City.

Right!! For some reason, the only thing that came to mind was Celtic, but, Mayan seems more accurate. As I stated earlier, Native Americans we not noted for drilling stones to put in a haft. Though, they were pretty inventive, so I can't say that they didn't.

Also, from the quarter put in for reference, (thank you for your forethought Duff,) it appears too narrow for milling corn or other grains.

But, I'm not all that familiar with the tools of the North/Eastern Native American Nations, so,

It does appear to be "Pre-Columbian" in my humble opinion.

 

[acevillav]

Saweet digs amigo

Ace Villa-v

 

[rvrpilot]

I have hunted and collected artifact for 30 plus
years and have never seen anything like what you have dug in any collections of north american found artifacts. I would say its from mexico(pre-columbian) either way its a great discovery. I'm also an x-bottle digger and I would say that someone got tired of them laying around a hundred years ago and thru them out with the trash. Again congradulation on a great find.
rvrpilot

 

[kuger]

I have several Indian artifact books and found two examples that were simular to the object with the hole through it. They were called Banner stones or atlatl weights. They counter balanced a spear thrower stick. It's shape is not found as often as the flat or "bowtie looking" type.

Doesnt look like any Atlatl weight I have ever seen?

The other item is a "ax",head ,they were hafted onto a stick,thats what the groove is for.

 

[Trond]

That is some very interesting stone objects. And it would also be interesting to take some tests to see were this stone/mace head comes from.