Stumped on these two items

Bruce Hingst

Tenderfoot
Dec 27, 2018
8
24
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
These two items were found below a bed hidden in the floorboards painted black in a shoe box. The hoe was razor sharp and could cut paper. When you rub the hoe it seems easier to read what is stamped in it. Both items are forged with writing and symbols all over on them I am thinking in Latin. They are very old. One appraiser sent them back to me because he was uncomfortable with them. I have many pictures. As you can see there is even markings inside the handle mounts.
 

Attachments

  • E53EFA80-0D3D-4E4C-BC1B-8562B3326516.jpeg
    E53EFA80-0D3D-4E4C-BC1B-8562B3326516.jpeg
    2 MB · Views: 218
  • 4F48AF72-ECAF-44D8-A66B-49078781D9A0.jpeg
    4F48AF72-ECAF-44D8-A66B-49078781D9A0.jpeg
    1.4 MB · Views: 138
  • 07A0625D-C952-4364-AAB2-7C2149D7C98A.jpeg
    07A0625D-C952-4364-AAB2-7C2149D7C98A.jpeg
    2 MB · Views: 158
  • B924131E-7884-4F6C-A6DA-386F2FED6745.jpeg
    B924131E-7884-4F6C-A6DA-386F2FED6745.jpeg
    1.6 MB · Views: 135
  • D19840DA-02B4-4C45-A70B-01E90372A03A.jpeg
    D19840DA-02B4-4C45-A70B-01E90372A03A.jpeg
    902.9 KB · Views: 158
  • 8B735672-C894-4FDD-8E34-E7877AC37C2F.jpeg
    8B735672-C894-4FDD-8E34-E7877AC37C2F.jpeg
    892 KB · Views: 124
  • 36FEA2BC-8DBD-46B5-97BA-8673D0765E1A.jpeg
    36FEA2BC-8DBD-46B5-97BA-8673D0765E1A.jpeg
    1.5 MB · Views: 144
  • 3E9672BF-0A6E-4996-A205-0810276F15CB.jpeg
    3E9672BF-0A6E-4996-A205-0810276F15CB.jpeg
    1.5 MB · Views: 140
  • 42A2E1F6-5118-4439-8209-2415AF2EE99B.jpeg
    42A2E1F6-5118-4439-8209-2415AF2EE99B.jpeg
    1.6 MB · Views: 133
  • C711E4CA-09EC-423A-B4FF-D26244ADA3F9.jpeg
    C711E4CA-09EC-423A-B4FF-D26244ADA3F9.jpeg
    1.1 MB · Views: 176
Upvote 8

Gare

Gold Member
Dec 30, 2012
7,457
14,034
Canton Ohio Area
🏆 Honorable Mentions:
2
Detector(s) used
Presently using Deus 2's & have Minelabs, Nokta's Tesoro's DEus's Have them all . Have WAY to many need to get rid of some
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
I believe they are garden implements, Hoe and a weed puller
 

bowwinkles

Bronze Member
Nov 3, 2012
2,084
2,438
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
Like Gare said , they appear to be gardening hand tools for soil work.
 

smokeythecat

Gold Member
Nov 22, 2012
20,720
40,798
Maryland
🥇 Banner finds
10
🏆 Honorable Mentions:
1
Detector(s) used
XP Deus II
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
That is correct, but these are at least 150 years old.
 

Rookster

Gold Member
Nov 24, 2013
29,382
111,598
Detector(s) used
XP Deus, F75Ltd., AT PRO, Garrett pointer
Primary Interest:
Cache Hunting
I'm thinking the forked tool in a potato digger.
 

randywa

Full Member
Sep 29, 2017
109
288
S.W. Mo.
Detector(s) used
Garrett Ace 250
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
Would one be a fish gig? I know around Mo. they might have 3 or 4 tines, depending on who made them.
 

Slowtaknow

Sr. Member
Oct 27, 2015
375
435
Kannapolis nc
Detector(s) used
Fisher f2, Tesoro vaquero, Nokta Simplex, Garrett Csi 250, whites gold master 2.
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
Thou shall reap what thou has sewn. Satan's garden will be watered in blood!:evil4::evil4::evil4:
 

sprailroad

Silver Member
Jan 19, 2017
2,647
4,132
Grants Pass, Oregon
Detector(s) used
Garrett A3B United States Gold Hunter, GTA 1000, AT Pro, Discovery Treasure Baron "Gold Trax", Minelab X-Terra 70, Safari, & EQ 800, & Nokta Marko Legend. EQ 900.
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
But razor sharp? And in a shoebox hidden beneath the floorboards?? I don't know, perhaps used for something OTHER than gardening? Something along the lines of a "Lizzy Borden" thing? "Gave her father forty wacks" (With an axe that is) Now as far as the "symbols & writing", I can't see any.
 

Toecutter

Bronze Member
Nov 30, 2018
2,433
7,443
🥇 Banner finds
1
🏆 Honorable Mentions:
1
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
dont rub that hoe to hard :occasion18:...... they defiantly look hand made/forged
 

GopherDaGold

Silver Member
Dec 12, 2009
2,817
3,356
St. Charles County, Missouri
Detector(s) used
Garrett AT Pro, Tesoro Vaquero, Bounty Hunter Land Star, Teknetics Delta 4000, Minelab Equinox 600, Garrett Carrot
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
Would one be a fish gig? I know around Mo. they might have 3 or 4 tines, depending on who made them.

Missouri boy here. Our froggin' gigs are barbed at the tines and don't attach to the pole at a right angle like the one shown. Most likely a very old garden implement as suggested.
 

dognose

Silver Member
Apr 15, 2009
3,068
8,298
Indiana
Detector(s) used
Fisher F70
The symbols are likely where the forged metal exfoliated or normal metal loss after so many years. Common in many of the old axes and tools I have collected.
spontoon_tomahawk_close.jpg

It could have been whose ever bed it was collected them and they were special to that person. maybe they found them, sharpened them and put them away for safe keeping and for some unknown reason they were never retrieved. Person could have died unexpectedly
 

dirtlooter

Gold Member
Jun 5, 2014
8,889
13,497
mid western ARK
🏆 Honorable Mentions:
3
Detector(s) used
XP Deus with 9"LF and 9" HF Coils and 600 Equinox with stock and 6" coils
Primary Interest:
Relic Hunting
Missouri boy here. Our froggin' gigs are barbed at the tines and don't attach to the pole at a right angle like the one shown. Most likely a very old garden implement as suggested.

beat me to it, fish gigs are made to be jabbed or even thrown at fish or even frogs on a straight shaft
 

Gene Mean

Bronze Member
Dec 22, 2016
1,839
3,967
Central NJ
Detector(s) used
Garrett ACE 350
Equinox 800
Eyeballs
Primary Interest:
Relic Hunting
Nice old hand tools! Tell us more about the house and it's history. Were there slaves in the area?
 

Last edited:

Gene Mean

Bronze Member
Dec 22, 2016
1,839
3,967
Central NJ
Detector(s) used
Garrett ACE 350
Equinox 800
Eyeballs
Primary Interest:
Relic Hunting
I don't see writing, I see normal pitting in the old metal.
 

firemanphob

Bronze Member
Apr 8, 2018
1,080
2,023
Lanesville, IN
Detector(s) used
White Coin master 4000
Garrett AT PRO
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
I have seen ones like the pronged one used to pull down hay from a hay stack or out of the barn loft.
 

A2coins

Gold Member
Dec 20, 2015
33,807
42,606
Ann Arbor
🏆 Honorable Mentions:
3
Detector(s) used
Equinox 800
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
Husband hid them and said they got stolen tired of working in the fields lol
 

randywa

Full Member
Sep 29, 2017
109
288
S.W. Mo.
Detector(s) used
Garrett Ace 250
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
Missouri boy here. Our froggin' gigs are barbed at the tines and don't attach to the pole at a right angle like the one shown. Most likely a very old garden implement as suggested.

I guess I need to adjust my glasses. I didn't notice the socket before. I've got an ancient gig that was broken above the barbs and was resharpened a few hundred times. The family story is my great grandfather used a long time.
 

Subterranean

Silver Member
Jan 31, 2012
3,964
8,892
Southwest Missouri
🏆 Honorable Mentions:
2
Detector(s) used
Garrett AT Pro (Julio), Garrett AT Max (Medusa), Garrett Pro Pointer, White's Prism V, Lesche Digger.
Primary Interest:
All Treasure Hunting
But razor sharp? And in a shoebox hidden beneath the floorboards?? I don't know, perhaps used for something OTHER than gardening? Something along the lines of a "Lizzy Borden" thing? "Gave her father forty wacks" (With an axe that is) Now as far as the "symbols & writing", I can't see any.

No other reason to hide common gardening tools under a floorboard. They were either stolen property, or used in an assault or homicide and hidden from authorities. IMHO...
 

Top Member Reactions

Users who are viewing this thread

Top