Thanksgiving Day Hunt – Two Early Coppers

ANTIQUARIAN

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Today is Thanksgiving Day here in Canada and I decided to hit a site I first detected in 2017. The farmer keeps the crop rotations pretty tight on this 100-acre site, so I only have a small window of opportunity between the bean or corn harvest and the winter wheat being planted. The red 'X' on the left is where the house stood and the 'X' on the right is where the barn sat. My first coin find was the 'holed' 1812 'Tiffin' (1832) Halfpenny. When I first received permission to this site the farmer told me that the site had been detected numerous times before by another detectorist. :sadsmiley:

This site is absolutely carpeted with iron from the top of a small rise where the house stood for over 100’ east to where I feel the barn was located. I have learned to detect this sit with slow shoulder width swings and listen for the faint high tones in between the iron. My next coin find hit at a solid loud ‘97’ from every direction, all I could think was “more large flat iron”. To my surprise out popped an 1852 U.C. One Penny. :thumbsup:

1812 Lower Canada, Tiffen Halfpenny Token
"Nowhere in British North America did the private copper tokens issued by merchants and others have a more fascinating evolutionary history than in Lower Canada - now Quebec. In the 1820s and 1830s, trade in Montreal, the colony's commercial centre, created a strong demand for coinage. As coins were often in short supply, privately produced tokens filled the void. Tokens were not legal tender and their circulation was against the law. However, this was little deterrent at a time when legal coins were scarce. The first private coppers were heavy pieces, about the same weight as the penny and halfpenny coins they supplemented.

However, by the 1830s the tokens were barely half the weight of the official coins and, at times, were so numerous that people would no longer accept them. Various tricks were therefore resorted to in order to make their circulation possible. One interesting approach was to copy the designs of tokens that had previously been of heavy weight and had enjoyed wide circulation. In 1832 a Montreal grocer named Tiffin issued copper halfpenny tokens. They bore the date 1812 and were imitations of much heavier pieces produced twenty years earlier. The obverse carried a bust of King George III surrounded by a wreath of oak leaves and acorns and the figure of a seated woman representing Commerce was the design on the reverse. The success of Tiffin's venture seems to have encouraged the production, in 1837, of another series of tokens of the "Bust and Commerce" design which were also dated 1812. In the latter case, however, the pieces were crudely engraved and were struck in brass, a less expensive metal than pure copper."

Thanks very much for looking!
Dave
 

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TomW244

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Fantastic finds and another amazing job of cleaning/restoration! Well done!
 

Gridwalker306

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Happy Thanksgiving! Looks like a nice day, I love all the old coppers you find. I hunted for three hours today and found one lousy penny lol.
 

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Fantastic finds and another amazing job of cleaning/restoration! Well done!

Thanks very much Tom!
Thankfully this site has never seen a cow. :laughing7:
Dave



Happy Thanksgiving! Looks like a nice day, I love all the old coppers you find. I hunted for three hours today and found one lousy penny lol.

I'm sorry to hear your day off detecting was a bust, we've all had those days.
As a good friend likes to remind me constantly... when the finds start to dry up, it's time to start researching outside of our area. :laughing7:

Best of luck to you!
Dave



Very Nice!!! Congrats!!!

Thanks very much Randy. :thumbsup:



Thank you Sir! :icon_salut:
 

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Awesome hunt Dave!!!!!! Any snow yet???
 

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That Tiffin token is really cool with an interesting history and the U.C. coin is really cool too! Congrats. The both cleaned up pretty nicely! Thanks for sharing!
 

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Nice thanksgiving hunt.
 

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Nice research and great coppers. Congratulations!
 

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Awesome relic and old copper hunt, congrats! :occasion14:
 

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ANTIQUARIAN

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Awesome hunt Dave!!!!!! Any snow yet???

Thanks for your post Bob. :thumbsup:
No snow yet, but we did have frost last night, hopefully the snow will hold off until the end of November.

Have a great fall season in Mass.,
Dave


That Tiffin token is really cool with an interesting history and the U.C. coin is really cool too! Congrats. The both cleaned up pretty nicely! Thanks for sharing!

Thank you for your post and for your interest Sir.
What I always find interesting is the variety of coins that we had circulating here before we became a country in 1867.
You just never know what's going to pop up on these old homestead sites. :laughing7:

Best of luck to you,
Dave




Thanks Tom.


Nice thanksgiving hunt.

Thanks buddy. :thumbsup:


Nice research and great coppers. Congratulations!

Thank you Anton.
I can't help but imagine what find the guy who detected this site years before me made though. :icon_scratch:
As I'm sure you can appreciate detecting these old sites, these finds weren't just sitting on top of the ground, they were well mixed in with the iron.

Have a great fall my friend, :icon_thumright:
Dave


You always find the coolest stuff. Seriously! Way to go once again.

Thanks for your post and for your compliment my friend. :thumbsup:
I drive past this site at least 2 - 3 time a week, as it's located about 10 mins north of where I live.

It just goes to show you that no site is ever really hunted out, we just need to adapt to how the site needs to be worked.
Dave



Awesome relic and old copper hunt, congrats! :occasion14:

Thank you Professor. :thumbsup:
As always, I appreciate your post and support.
Dave
 

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Nice hunt, Dave. Happy belated Thanksgiving to you.
 

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Well Dave I always like reading your posts. You never disappoint. You always seem to find interesting pieces. Some excellent saves. Congrats
 

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nice site & great hunt, nice old coppers & relics, great pictures as always, congrats on the saves & HH
 

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Great finds, great scenery, and thanks for the history about the half penny token! Happy Canadian Thanksgiving to you! :thumbsup:
 

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Dave, another incredible outing, storytelling, and finds. Surely made for a very Happy Thanksgiving:hello2:
 

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Great work as usual dave....fantastic finds !! Congrats....and happy thanks giving !!
 

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