The county wants all treasure or just big treasure?

[Wasabi-wasabi]

Please help me understand line 6.
The county wants everything found or just large treasures? This is on the county metal detecting application.

 

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[Showtime2385]

Looks to me like you have to turn over anything you find. Id bring them lots of pull tabs, can slaw and crusty zinc cents till they say you can stop bringing them your finds

 

[Johnnybravo300]

Yes take them bags and bags of trash. Never tell them if you find anything good. They asked for it right?

 

[Loco-Digger]

While applying for the permit, I'd get clarification of what constitutes a treasure trove. Is it a single coin or are they eluding to a cache? It sucks that you can't legally pull targets that are deeper than 6 inches.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

sounds like just "treasure troves". Not singular coins. But I bet if you went turning in your junk and individual coins as Showtime jokes about, or "seeking clarifications" that loco-digger suggests, that it would only be a matter of time before the revoke the permit entirely. And just make it simple and say "no md'ing". The psychology of taking up their time to answer Q's, just makes it "perpetually on their radar" as something they have to deal with. This is why there are many stories circulating of permit-programs rescinded, and md'ing banned at some point. Because the mere fact that a "permit" exists, means it's perpetually on their annual list of things to consider, think about, etc.. And then sure as sh$t, one year they decide "gee, do we really want all these yahoos out there digging up the parks ?"

And also notice your permit language says you can't dig deeper than 6". Really ? Ok, so I guess that means they have a fellow follow you and I around with a ruler measuring the depth of the coins/targets you dig. Right ? And he cuffs you and hauls you off when you go deeper than 6", eh ? If I were getting a screaming signal on my machine at 6" , telling me a silver dime is just a tad further, do you think I'm going to stop ? Heck, there are park turf scenarios where I deliberately PASS any signal LESS than 6" (in the quest for deeper older coins, trying to pass clad).

Thus while the notion of "permits" seems to "wax romantic" in the eyes of md'rs (thinking it's a carte-blanche to detect nilly willy), yet as your permit shows, they are ALWAYS fraught with problems and silly-ness. Hence much better for the law to be silent on the subject, not addressed either way.

 

[cyberdan]

It says "treasure trove" in England they have that law everywhere and it means something like a certain age and or value is considered a trove. But it is not up to the MDer to determine the value/age. I think anything that might be thought as a trove has to be taken to the local Finds Liaison Officer and he decides.

First off I think this whole thing is a bunch of BS.

Here is wikipedia's definition:

Treasure trove is an amount of money or coin, gold, silver, plate, or bullion found hidden underground or in places such as cellars or attics, where the treasure seems old enough for it to be presumed that the true owner is dead and the heirs undiscoverable. The legal definition of what constitutes treasure trove and its treatment under law vary considerably from country to country, and from era to era.

So if you find a few gold rings no big deal. They were not hidden.
Down in SoCA I only heard of one city that required an MD permit to hunt and I never heard of any BS rules that came with the permit.

 

[Wasabi-wasabi]

All of you have great points. I agree that turning over 1,000 pull tabs every week would not end well lol. Thank you for explaining the question of line 6. And yeah...I wonder how they came up with the 6 inch limit?

 

[Loco-Digger]

All of you have great points. I agree that turning over 1,000 pull tabs every week would not end well lol. Thank you for explaining the question of line 6. And yeah...I wonder how they came up with the 6 inch limit?

I would presume that they might believe that the depth of the hole relates to it's circumference so in theory a foot deep hole would require a plug that was a foot in circumference, or else they know they laid 6 inches of fill dirt and don't want you to find anything but recent coin drops?

 

[Wasabi-wasabi]

That is very logical Loco-Digger. I had concidered digging to China but they stopped me lol...guess it's the slow boat then! 6 inches at a time

 

[Peyton Manning]

I would dig anything I want and if hassled, raise your hands and repeat " black lives matter"

 

[Tom_in_CA]

....I wonder how they came up with the 6 inch limit?

I betcha here's how: Someone(s) in decades past went in asking "can I detect?" Or "is there a permit to md ?". Seeing as how the knee-jerk mental connotation is "geeks with shovels digging", they have to address this, eh? I've even seen "permits" with length of digger-tool itself said to be "not to exceed 4" (or whatever). Like , gee, a person with enough resolve can't dig a deep messy pit with a teaspoon ?

 

[Honest Samuel]

I would dig anything I want and if hassled, raise your hands and repeat " black lives matter"

But, I am a senior Irish white man. Now, what?

 

[Goldfleks]

Just keep your digs clean and tidy, pop coins when you can, dig flaps when you can't, bring a towel to gather dirt, and don't worry about it.

 

[Dug]

But, I am a senior Irish white man. Now, what?

Better start working on your tan.

 

[Honest Samuel]

When dealing with people and governments, have written contracts and rules and regulations and laws.