The TRUE story behind the Oak Island legend... (Finally revelaed)

[franklin]

Did you try email?



What constitutes "standard" English gematria, and how does it differ from "nonstandard" gematria? What makes one more or less valid than the other?

Standard English Gematria uses all 26 letters of the alphabet from 1 to 26 while regular English Gematria is like Sir Francis Bacon came up with in the late 16 century using only 24 letters with the "u" and "v" retaining the same number and the "i" and the "j" retaining the same number. The only difference. But by the time of the 1611 KJV, Sir Francis Bacon had shifted to the 26 letters of the Standard English Gematria. It was revealed by the publish date of the 1611 KJV Holy Bible by it being May 2, 1611 with May 2, standing for the upper case of 26 being 52 for May=5 and the Day=2 for 52. The MASONIC letter "G" is also an Upper Case "G" for 26 + 7= 33

Did you try email? Yes, I have not heard from them either.

 

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[NewAge]

Starting with the date-----------July 4, 1776. Why that date? The DOI was only signed by the President of the Convention John Hancock on that day, everyone else signed at a later date. But why July 4, 1776. It is a remarkable date and probably the only date in History that this could happen.

In Standard English Gematria, JULY 4 relates to JULY=7 and the day 4 can be read 74 which is JESUS. Now you take the year 1776 divide it in half for 888 and 888. Now JESUS in Greek Gematria is 888. So this is the only date in History that could read "JESUS JESUS JESUS" Now what was that you said about Thomas Jefferson not believing in JESUS. Not only that JESUS is encoded in the DOI at least 12 times. Also how to find the "ARK OF THE COVENANT OF GOD"

WOW

So the DOI really had little to do with us declaring our freedom and independence.....and was actually a secret code in which to find the Ark.And also the timing of the whole thing was pre planned out to spell Jesus after you do some math.

I find it hard to believe you don't have politicians lining up for miles to get there name associated with this theory.

 

[franklin]

Hard Case. Politicians--dead beats making a living of their own while pretending to serve the public.

 

[ECS]

ECS, Since you have showed interest in the Encoding of the DOI. I will give you one part of it and if you still do not like it, I will reveal no more...

Thank you for providing that, Franklin.
It is not that I "do not like it", it is that I have my doubts that Thomas Jefferson and the others involved in creating the Declaration of Independence from England which would be and was considered by the British as treason, would include any hidden message in this document.

 

[franklin]

Thank you for providing that, Franklin.
It is not that I "do not like it", it is that I have my doubts that Thomas Jefferson and the others involved in creating the Declaration of Independence from England which would be and was considered by the British as treason, would include any hidden message in this document.

The hidden messages are in the Declaration of Independence. They are also all over Washington, D.C. and the professional Bible Scholars are reading them all wrong.

 

[Dave Rishar]

Standard English Gematria uses all 26 letters of the alphabet from 1 to 26 while regular English Gematria is like Sir Francis Bacon came up with in the late 16 century using only 24 letters with the "u" and "v" retaining the same number and the "i" and the "j" retaining the same number. The only difference. But by the time of the 1611 KJV, Sir Francis Bacon had shifted to the 26 letters of the Standard English Gematria. It was revealed by the publish date of the 1611 KJV Holy Bible by it being May 2, 1611 with May 2, standing for the upper case of 26 being 52 for May=5 and the Day=2 for 52. The MASONIC letter "G" is also an Upper Case "G" for 26 + 7= 33

Thank you for that. I have another question though, but before I ask it, I'd like to present you with a little riddle of sorts. There is no correct answer, but I think that it's relevant.

Some time back, the government identified a problem with the burial and disposal of nuclear waste: how do we adequately mark it in such a way that a future people would understand the hazard? Symbols may not mean the same things. (My first response upon hearing of the problem was to suggest a skull and perhaps crossbones, as that can only mean one thing across multiple cultures. But apparently 2,000 years ago, it meant rebirth, not death.) They may not speak the same language. One idea was a series of pictures depicting a boy screwing around with an object with a trefoil on it, then getting the trifoil on his chest, and then dying or experiencing distress as a man. But that might not work either, as whatever order we presented the pictures in, a later culture may read things in the other direction and conclude that an ailing old man could "get" the nuclear trefoil and be reborn as a young boy. There were some pretty wild ideas that came from this, with one of my favorites being the "ray cats." (Google it.) In the end, the government decided to just bury it and let the chips fall where they may.

My final idea was a series of nesting blocks with pictures. That way, you would have to physically remove one situation to see the next one, so there would be little chance of misinterpreting what is meant. Inside the repository, this order would be duplicated by a similar stack of blocks. See the pile of drums with trefoils on them? The first block shows the healthy boy. The next block shows him with a trefoil. The next block shows him in distress with a trefoil. Of course, this could still be misinterpreted by a later culture. My next thought was a tribe of post-civilization warriors realizing that the Ancient Ones had shown them the power of their forgotten weapons, and then my head was filled with images of these warriors smearing the contents of the barrels all over themselves, eating it, dumping it into lakes, and basically making a complete mess of things. It would actually make for a good piece of fiction actually, if someone were inclined to tackle it. Humans gonna human.

So here's my question: the Founders weren't stupid. I'm continually impressed by how clever they were. They obviously could not have forseen everything - nuclear weapons, for instance - but they had a good grasp of human nature, and they were obviously interested in history. If they were leaving messages for people that would follow later, would they bury it in the Bible, knowing that languages change, and indeed that the Bible itself might change? Or would they look to something more permanent? The Declaration of Independence is permanent (it's a one time deal and is not a living document), but religion is not, so why tie the two together? These guys must have known how much Christianity had changed over the last 1000 years. It was not a secret, and I would have been very surprised if they had not at least considered the potential impact of the next Martin Luther.

In short, I would not have made the encoding that complicated, particularly when the actual date of signing is a matter of dispute, which it is. And I wouldn't have encoded JESUS into there. I would have encoded a string of names in series that could not be disputed - the names of the Founders, for instance. Admittedly I've never founded a country, but I get the impression that these guys were smarter than I am, and if I'm finding problems with this approach, they likely would have as well.

Did you try email? Yes, I have not heard from them either.

I'm going to be delicate about this. How did you word it? I try to word emails carefully not just because of who might read them, but also what they might think of me. I've had to rewrite emails up my chain of command in the past because if I'd sent what I'd originally written, I would have been escorted from the premises. Phrasing is important.

 

[franklin]

Thank you for that. I have another question though, but before I ask it, I'd like to present you with a little riddle of sorts. There is no correct answer, but I think that it's relevant.

Some time back, the government identified a problem with the burial and disposal of nuclear waste: how do we adequately mark it in such a way that a future people would understand the hazard? Symbols may not mean the same things. (My first response upon hearing of the problem was to suggest a skull and perhaps crossbones, as that can only mean one thing across multiple cultures. But apparently 2,000 years ago, it meant rebirth, not death.) They may not speak the same language. One idea was a series of pictures depicting a boy screwing around with an object with a trefoil on it, then getting the trifoil on his chest, and then dying or experiencing distress as a man. But that might not work either, as whatever order we presented the pictures in, a later culture may read things in the other direction and conclude that an ailing old man could "get" the nuclear trefoil and be reborn as a young boy. There were some pretty wild ideas that came from this, with one of my favorites being the "ray cats." (Google it.) In the end, the government decided to just bury it and let the chips fall where they may.

My final idea was a series of nesting blocks with pictures. That way, you would have to physically remove one situation to see the next one, so there would be little chance of misinterpreting what is meant. Inside the repository, this order would be duplicated by a similar stack of blocks. See the pile of drums with trefoils on them? The first block shows the healthy boy. The next block shows him with a trefoil. The next block shows him in distress with a trefoil. Of course, this could still be misinterpreted by a later culture. My next thought was a tribe of post-civilization warriors realizing that the Ancient Ones had shown them the power of their forgotten weapons, and then my head was filled with images of these warriors smearing the contents of the barrels all over themselves, eating it, dumping it into lakes, and basically making a complete mess of things. It would actually make for a good piece of fiction actually, if someone were inclined to tackle it. Humans gonna human.

If they were leaving messages for people that would follow later, would they bury it in the Bible, knowing that languages change, and indeed that the Bible itself might change? Or would they look to something more permanent? The Declaration of Independence is permanent (it's a one time deal and is not a living document), but religion is not, so why tie the two together? These guys must have known how much Christianity had changed over the last 1000 years. It was not a secret, and I would have been very surprised if they had not at least considered the potential impact of the next Martin Luther.

In short, I would not have made the encoding that complicated, particularly when the actual date of signing is a matter of dispute, which it is. And I wouldn't have encoded JESUS into there. I would have encoded a string of names in series that could not be disputed - the names of the Founders, for instance. Admittedly I've never founded a country, but I get the impression that these guys were smarter than I am, and if I'm finding problems with this approach, they likely would have as well.



I'm going to be delicate about this. How did you word it? I try to word emails carefully not just because of who might read them, but also what they might think of me. I've had to rewrite emails up my chain of command in the past because if I'd sent what I'd originally written, I would have been escorted from the premises. Phrasing is important.

I asked them for a meeting. I had some important research to discuss about the Declaration of Independence. That was all. The rest to be worked out at the meeting.

So here's my question: the Founders weren't stupid. I'm continually impressed by how clever they were. They obviously could not have forseen everything - nuclear weapons, for instance - but they had a good grasp of human nature, and they were obviously interested in history.

Yes they could have forseen everything, they had the "Ark of the Covenant of God" The Encoding in the KJV was years before this country was even thought of, except for Sir Francis Bacon and his "New Atlantis" But the Encoding of the KJV told of things that were yet four hundred years in the future with science that had not even been in existence for another 273 years.

In short, I would not have made the encoding that complicated, particularly when the actual date of signing is a matter of dispute, which it is. And I wouldn't have encoded JESUS into there. I would have encoded a string of names in series that could not be disputed - the names of the Founders, for instance. Admittedly I've never founded a country, but I get the impression that these guys were smarter than I am, and if I'm finding problems with this approach, they likely would have as well.

The encoding is not very complicated at all, else I would not be able to see it clearly. Why not Encode "JESUS" that is the reason for mankinds existence.

Dave, The Declaration of Independence only gives you the means to search for the "Ark of the Covenant of God" Please let me explain as there are many steps to finding the "Ark of the Covenant of God"

First, you have to locate and find the "Holy Grail" or in other words the "Gold Cup of Christ" It can be found in the First Chapter of the First Book of Moses, "Genesis" and using the First Chapter. So, you have "First First First" using the first letter "F" which is "6" and it becomes 666. That is not a number to be feared? And this is the hardest part in finding the "Holy Grail" and/or the "Ark of the Covenant of God" Man's fear of the number 666. It is a number that many can not over come. But once you do and you find it this number 666 and Jesus is what decodes the KJV of the Holy Bible.

Second, you have to Decode the Declaration of Independence and the Founding Fathers really made it very simple to do. This will tell you how to search for the "Ark of the Covenant of God" Using what I just mentioned in the "First" Step.

Third, Then you have to go to the City mentioned in the "Holy Grail" with it's co-ordinates given in the "Gold Cup of Christ" Using the "First Step" again along with the instructions of the Declaration of Independence in the "Second Step" will tell you where the general location of the "Ark of the Covenant of God" is located.

Fourth with the new found evidence, you will search and find another document that was made to stand the ages of time. When you decode this document, actually it is a "MAP" then it will reveal the exact location of the "Ark of the Covenant of God" and all the other "Holy Relics." I can add no more.

 

[81618]

I asked them for a meeting. I had some important research to discuss about the Declaration of Independence. That was all. The rest to be worked out at the meeting.

So here's my question: the Founders weren't stupid. I'm continually impressed by how clever they were. They obviously could not have forseen everything - nuclear weapons, for instance - but they had a good grasp of human nature, and they were obviously interested in history.

Yes they could have forseen everything, they had the "Ark of the Covenant of God" The Encoding in the KJV was years before this country was even thought of, except for Sir Francis Bacon and his "New Atlantis" But the Encoding of the KJV told of things that were yet four hundred years in the future with science that had not even been in existence for another 273 years.

In short, I would not have made the encoding that complicated, particularly when the actual date of signing is a matter of dispute, which it is. And I wouldn't have encoded JESUS into there. I would have encoded a string of names in series that could not be disputed - the names of the Founders, for instance. Admittedly I've never founded a country, but I get the impression that these guys were smarter than I am, and if I'm finding problems with this approach, they likely would have as well.

The encoding is not very complicated at all, else I would not be able to see it clearly. Why not Encode "JESUS" that is the reason for mankinds existence.

Dave, The Declaration of Independence only gives you the means to search for the "Ark of the Covenant of God" Please let me explain as there are many steps to finding the "Ark of the Covenant of God"

First, you have to locate and find the "Holy Grail" or in other words the "Gold Cup of Christ" It can be found in the First Chapter of the First Book of Moses, "Genesis" and using the First Chapter. So, you have "First First First" using the first letter "F" which is "6" and it becomes 666. That is not a number to be feared? And this is the hardest part in finding the "Holy Grail" and/or the "Ark of the Covenant of God" Man's fear of the number 666. It is a number that many can not over come. But once you do and you find it this number 666 and Jesus is what decodes the KJV of the Holy Bible.

Second, you have to Decode the Declaration of Independence and the Founding Fathers really made it very simple to do. This will tell you how to search for the "Ark of the Covenant of God" Using what I just mentioned in the "First" Step.

Third, Then you have to go to the City mentioned in the "Holy Grail" with it's co-ordinates given in the "Gold Cup of Christ" Using the "First Step" again along with the instructions of the Declaration of Independence in the "Second Step" will tell you where the general location of the "Ark of the Covenant of God" is located.

Fourth with the new found evidence, you will search and find another document that was made to stand the ages of time. When you decode this document, actually it is a "MAP" then it will reveal the exact location of the "Ark of the Covenant of God" and all the other "Holy Relics." I can add no more.

Franklin, can you say that you actually know (without revealing where exactly) where the "Ark of the Covenant of God" is located and can you say it's located in the US?
What say you if I can answer the above question with - yes.

 

[franklin]

Franklin, can you say that you actually know (without revealing where exactly) where the "Ark of the Covenant of God" is located and can you say it's located in the US?
What say you if I can answer the above question with - yes.

Yes, I know the location of the "Ark of the Covenant of God" And yes it is located in the United States specifically near Washington, D.C.

Mankind has been taught to fear certain things down through the years ---- such as 666. They are also taught that the number "13" is bad luck. "LUCK" is also the same gematria as "GRAIL" These two numbers that are taught by everyone, even teachers and yes even preachers are not what they seem. These two numbers will reveal where the "Ark of the Covenant of God" is located.

It is just like "Pirates" and the "Skull and Crossbones" completely taught wrong and everyone is misinformed. The "SKULL" which is the location where "Adam" was buried-----the Place of the Skull or Golgotha. It is also the location where "JESUS" was crucified. The "CROSSBONES" is actually two sets of "Angel Wings" meaning the two "Ark-Angels" Michael and Gabriel also represents the "ARK OF THE COVENANT OF GOD"

 

[ECS]

The hidden messages are in the Declaration of Independence. They are also all over Washington, D.C. and the professional Bible Scholars are reading them all wrong.

If all these religious messages are "hidden" in the Declaration of Independence and are "also all over Washington, D.C.", why then did the Founding Fathers create a secular nation under the CONSTITUTION?

 

[franklin]

SECRET SOCIETY

 

[ECS]

It's ALWAYS a conspiracy or a secret society given as the answer when there is no actual evidence to support a claim.

 

[franklin]

There is evidence. I contacted a live attendant at the National Archives maybe they will call back?

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

. . . the "Ark of the Covenant of God" is located and can you say it's located in the US? What say you if I can answer the above question with - yes.

Franklin may be happy with words holding more meaning than simply the language, and numerology having significance. But, for the rest of us, the reality is in the physical evidence. As they say in Missouri: "Show me"

 

[ECS]

81618 is promising a BIG REVEAL on these Oak Island threads today.

 

[franklin]

There is evidence. I contacted a live attendant at the National Archives maybe they will call back?

I have talked about fifteen minutes with the National Archives and they say they are going to check into my information. They took two pages of notes. But whether any thing gets finalized we will have to wait and see. By the way, I will not receive the credit for anything that is going to be in the news--- if any. It will be in the name of Phillip Smith.

 

[ECS]

Who is Phillip Smith, and why would he be taking credit for your work?

 

[Rebel - KGC]

I wouldn't be surprised there are hidden messages in Shakespeare's work. He used 80% more words than necessary to get any message across.

Never enjoyed his work in high-school and avoid in whenever possible. I'm suspicious of the whole theatre crowd. Small hands.

BA HA HA!

 

[somehiker]

I doubt they will find any substantial treasure on the island. Mainly because I believe the real treasure of Oak Island was sea salt,produced there for use of the early Basque and/or Portuguese fishing fleets which harvested the Georges and Grand Banks. That IMO, the "money pit" was designed and constructed as a tide-driven filtration system to provide seawater free of algae and seaweed to an evaporative salt bed, most likely where the swamp now is. As the tide would rise, unfiltered water would enter the filter "pit" through the tunnels from the shoreline, then be forced upward through the log grates,coconut fibre etc., with the heaviest and worst of the contaminants settling below the intake level. When the level of rising,and now filtered sea water, reached the upper levels of the pit, it could be then channeled down the slope to the salt pan itself. Two types of salt were desired for curing fish. White, dried on a flat bedrock pan, and grey....dried on a flat clay pan. It's all more interesting and complicated than my simplified explanation of course, but all that the searchers have found so far in the way of artifacts etc., seems to lean in this direction for me.

 

[Charlie P. (NY)]

Makes more sense than treasure - but sea salt doesn't require drains, fibers and fancy stuff. Just shallow evaporating areas.