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That's a quarter FYI lol
 

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Check out the cleaning and preservation section. I do not think you have anything to loose. Just clean it slowly you might get some details.
 

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Maybe a Louis XIV, aged bust, Liard? They should be 23 mm, and a quarter is 24 mm. The problem with using diameters to ID 1600's coins, is that in many cases they are off by the official diameters by a noticeable amount.

First photo is OP's coin, rotated and cropped
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This photo is an image from Google of the coin I think the OP's might be.
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Ha i sure hope your right. I'll try some cleaning it's so smoothed out though
 

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It also could be a William III Farthing. I think this might pretty a pretty likely ID. Not sure though. Good luck on cleaning and solving it!

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That would be pretty cool if it was for sure. I'll keep ya updated if any progress through cleaning
 

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MAN THE DANG COPPERHEADS ARE SHOWING UP ALREADY>
 

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Haha not sure if I follow
 

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Love the old coppers! :occasion14:

I have faith in Coinman123 when it comes to coin ID. :notworthy:
 

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To my old eyes the bust looks like a closer match to Louis IX than William, especially the chin and forehead.
 

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Some better pics

Little more cleaning I can definitely see what coinmaster was saying I can the back and front of head on coin
 

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It doesn't look too much like a Louis XIV now, amazing what a good cleaning can do. Nice job there cleaning it. I now am leaning towards it being a William III farthing, as I said earlier. I am not completely sure on this one though, it does look to have been in circulation for quite a while. Amazing find right there, whatever it is, it is very old and cool, imagine the stories it could tell!

P.S., I was thinking George I Hibernia Halfpenny at first glance of the new photos, but noticed that the hair and bust were a little different when I compared it to an image of one.

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Also looks like it could be a Hibernia Charles II Copper. I put it side by side with a William and Charles copper to compare. I noticed the top of the hair on yours really resembles the Charles II.

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My vote right now is on it being a Hibernia Charles II Halfpenny. The bust and hair are very close. The back of the head doesn't seem to match the William as much and the Charles.

I would also like to add the the Charles Hibernia Halfpenny is 26mm, and the quarter you compared it to is 24mm.

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Well, I did an overlay of a Charles II Halfpenny and the OP's coin in Google Earth, they seem to match up pretty good. What do you think?
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Here is an animated gif of before and after the overlay, on of my screenshots is a little bit smaller than the other, sorry!
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Wow that's great thanks so much for doing that. Does that half penny match up? Quick google search shows head facing left.
 

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