Who Was The Big Fat Liar?

Rebel - KGC · Oct 29, 2019

"Google" FULL TEXT of Fluvanna County, Virginia & its people, some notes"; Robert Austin Morris.

franklin · Oct 29, 2019

Rebel - KGC said:
"Google" FULL TEXT of Fluvanna County, Virginia & its people, some notes"; Robert Austin Morris.

I have looked through it four times but all I can find is where he was married. Can't find anything about Mayor of Lynchburg? What page? There is only like 90 pages. It mentions a John Robert Dandridge Payne that served one term as Mayor of Lynchburg, Va.

Rebel - KGC · Oct 30, 2019

TY for looking... NO page number. Very strange that you can't find it. It was a brief statement by itself; RAM "of Bremo Bluff.... he lived for awhile in Lynchburg, where HE SERVED FOR ONE TERM as MAYOR." Have to go to Jones Mem. Library in L'burg to check it out.

ECS · Oct 30, 2019

Rebel - KGC said:
"Google" FULL TEXT of Fluvanna County, Virginia & its people, some notes"; Robert Austin Morris.

"Tara Amanda Pettit married Robert Austin Morris of Bremo. They have several children...he lived for a time in Lynchburg where he served one term as mayor"
"lived for a time in Lynchburg" does not appear to be the Robert Morriss of the Washington Hotel married to Sarah Mitchell, or the character in the Beale Papers, which also brings forth the question was the Robert Morris of the Beale tale ever the mayor of Lynchburg?
"They had several children" which Robert and Sarah Mitchell seems did not.

franklin · Oct 30, 2019

ECS said:
"Tara Amanda Pettit married Robert Austin Morris of Bremo. They have several children...he lived for a time in Lynchburg where he served one term as mayor"
"lived for a time in Lynchburg" does not appear to be the Robert Morriss of the Washington Hotel married to Sarah Mitchell, or the character in the Beale Papers, which also brings forth the question was the Robert Morris of the Beale tale ever the mayor of Lynchburg?
"They had several children" which Robert and Sarah Mitchell seems did not.

I have compared the signatures of Robert Morris of the Washington Hotel to the Mayor of Lynchburg and they are one and the same. I posted their signature on this forum somewhere.

Rebel - KGC · Oct 30, 2019

ECS said:
"Tara Amanda Pettit married Robert Austin Morris of Bremo. They have several children...he lived for a time in Lynchburg where he served one term as mayor"
"lived for a time in Lynchburg" does not appear to be the Robert Morriss of the Washington Hotel married to Sarah Mitchell, or the character in the Beale Papers, which also brings forth the question was the Robert Morris of the Beale tale ever the mayor of Lynchburg?
"They had several children" which Robert and Sarah Mitchell seems did not.

IMHO.. they were DIFFERENT people. I was only focused on Mayor Robert MORRIS; NOTHING to do with the "JOB PRINT".

Rebel - KGC · Oct 30, 2019

ECS said:
"Tara Amanda Pettit married Robert Austin Morris of Bremo. They have several children...he lived for a time in Lynchburg where he served one term as mayor"
"lived for a time in Lynchburg" does not appear to be the Robert Morriss of the Washington Hotel married to Sarah Mitchell, or the character in the Beale Papers, which also brings forth the question was the Robert Morris of the Beale tale ever the mayor of Lynchburg?
"They had several children" which Robert and Sarah Mitchell seems did not.

TY for looking; you FOUND IT! TY!

Rebel - KGC · Oct 30, 2019

Robert MORRIS DID manage the Washington Hotel...

ECS · Oct 30, 2019

franklin said:
I have compared the signatures of Robert Morris of the Washington Hotel to the Mayor of Lynchburg and they are one and the same. I posted their signature on this forum somewhere.

The question remains, if Robert Austin Morris, married to Tara Amanda Pettit was the 1813 Mayor of Lynchburg as stated on the Fluvanna county site and not the Robert Morris of the Beale Papers who was married to Sarah Mitchell, how can their signatures be "one and the same"?

ECS · Oct 30, 2019

Rebel - KGC said:
Robert MORRIS DID manage the Washington Hotel...

Would that be the Robert Morriss if the Beale Papers and NOT the 1813 Mayor Robert Austin Morris of Lynchburg?
*NOTE* Neither are related to Robert Morris Jr signer of the Declaration of Independence.

docweiser · Oct 30, 2019

docweiser · Oct 30, 2019

Rebel - KGC · Oct 30, 2019

ECS said:
Would that be the Robert Morriss if the Beale Papers and NOT the 1813 Mayor Robert Austin Morris of Lynchburg?
*NOTE* Neither are related to Robert Morris Jr signer of the Declaration of Independence.

Robert MORRIS (Mayor - 1813). HE later went on to manage the FRANKLIN HOTEL.

ECS · Oct 30, 2019

Rebel - KGC said:
Robert MORRIS (Mayor - 1813). HE later went on to manage the FRANKLIN HOTEL.

Which Robert Morris? The one married to Tara Amanda Pettit or the one married to Sarah Mitchell?

ECS · Oct 30, 2019

docweiser said:
View attachment 1766930

It is interesting that this article claims that Morris on his deathbed, gave James Beverly Ward the Beale papers and ciphers and that Ward solved cipher #2, making Ward the "unnamed author", which highly differs from the job print pamphlet narrative of Ward receiving a finished manuscript from an "unnamed author" to act a agent of copyright.
PS, Doc, are you related to Bud Weiser?

Rebel - KGC · Oct 31, 2019

ECS said:
Which Robert Morris? The one married to Tara Amanda Pettit or the one married to Sarah Mitchell?

One married to Sarah was MORRISS; HE was NEVER a Mayor of Lynchburg, Va. (by that name).

franklin · Oct 31, 2019

Rebel - KGC said:
One married to Sarah was MORRISS; HE was NEVER a Mayor of Lynchburg, Va. (by that name).

Well here is the Mayor of Lynchburg's signature as you can see he had two letter "s" at the end of his name:

Here is Robert Morriss" name on the funeral expenses for his wife Sarah also.

I also have Robert Morriss' signature when he was partners with William Mitchell, Jr. before they ever came to Lynchburg and he was signed Rob Morriss.

Robert Morriss signature 1856

Rebel - KGC · Oct 31, 2019

franklin said:
Well here is the Mayor of Lynchburg's signature as you can see he had two letter "s" at the end of his name:View attachment 1767078

On WHAT...?

Rebel - KGC · Oct 31, 2019

franklin said:
Well here is the Mayor of Lynchburg's signature as you can see he had two letter "s" at the end of his name:View attachment 1767078 Here is Robert Morriss" name on the funeral expenses for his wife Sarah also.View attachment 1767080

I also have Robert Morriss' signature when he was partners with William Mitchell, Jr. before they ever came to Lynchburg and he was signed Rob Morriss.

"Rob."...? On official Lynchburg, Va. "document"...? Will check JML.

ECS · Oct 31, 2019

Rebel - KGC said:
One married to Sarah was MORRISS; HE was NEVER a Mayor of Lynchburg, Va. (by that name).

It is curious that both Robert Austin Morris and Robert Morris are claimed to have been a one term mayor of Lynchburg.
Reminds me of the old TO TELL THE TRUTH tv show: "Will the real Mayor Robert Morris please stand up"!

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