Willie L Douthit

[sdcfia]

That is perhaps because he was an orphan who was taken in by Maragaret Perrone, a local resident. And he died very young, and according to some, at the hand of Willie Douthit.

It may have been small-town New Mexico in the 30s, but that's no excuse - no police report, no missing person filing, no mention of the "bullet-ridden jacket" in the papers, no statement from the bereaved Ms. Perrone. All we have are treasure rumors from unspecified sources about this waif who found a cave full of gold? Why, it's like it never happened.

 

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[sdcfia]

If anyone comes across a map from the 1930's of this area, you should post its source and share. So far, no luck on my end finding that.

The best you'll do is to locate an old USGS Quad. I've got a bunch of old NM issues dating back as far as 1907, but nothing in the Hatch/Rincon area.

 

[UncleMatt]

That's a good suggestion, but they only go back to 1959 for the Rincon site.

I've said this elsewhere on the site in other threads, but until you have lived a good number of years in New Mexico, you lack perspective on what can go down here, and does go down here with great regularity.

Several cases in point, several nights ago the HEAD of the Albuquerque Police Narcotics Unit SHOT one of his own undercover officers. 2 other officers are currently under murder charges for shooting to death a mentally imbalanced man in the foothills who was camping not a half a mile from my house. Down in El Paso County recently 2 officers got in an argument, and one of them shot and killed the other. I could go on with tales that would truly disgust you, but hopefully that illustrates the point well enough. Breaking Bad was filmed here for a reason. Graft and corruption are still present today, and were ten times worse back then. Think of good old Gus Raney over near Grants, who was a law officer, but still died while waiting for trial over killing a father and son. And that is just law enforcement, when you start talking about the civilians, its another level of skullduggery. So please don't be skeptical that an orphan with no real family wouldn't be missed or his disappearance not investigated. I am sure if law enforcement did know about it at the time, they were probably relieved no one expected them to do anything about it.

And with regard to Miss Perrone, she might have been scared she was next! She had seen the maps and had helped translate them, so I'm sure she wanted to keep a very low profile after she saw Jack's perforated clothing.

 

[treasminder2]

Matt
There is a special type of STUPID in New Mexico, as I've not seen in any of the 13 Western States
That I travel through

Some mental defct in a certain per capita rate .

Stories ?

It would take me far longer then two to three lifetimes to even tell them all .

As for Jack

If say for instance , it was Old Man Chock that toled me about Jack , I'd know it was a lie

With the Gentile Charlie however ,
If he told me the moon was made of cheeze

I'd go ahead and bring Crackers .

I recal John Kennedy introducing himself as Jack

John to Jack ?

yeah , common

Using an Alias was as well common in those times , for I.D. was not carried by a huge Majority of people
outside the business venue in large Cities .

Given that , I'd skip the reliance on documentation available through
written text .

You will not find his Grave in a Cemetery either .

Nor a Death Certificate .

SDfica
Try to find a Death Certificate on My Dad in New Mexico .

You may find a record of his son Harvey Snow jr.

but you will not get one on Dad
nor will you find one on my sister Eleda .

for both were Murdered and the case on her is unsolved .

In my Dads case , there is some undefined anomalies involved that for some reason
is cause for the State to keep his Documents sealed .

When I was thwarted by the state in my attempt to get all documents on my
dads Murder ,
they outright refused me access to them , saying , it's an ongoing investigation

and that , after 5 years had passed .

Later , through another venue , I received Docs on the crime scene

Found in his house , in his knap Sack , two small 20 Lb Gold Bars .

Reason for them witholding the files from me ?

They wanted to find out where the Bars came from .

they wanted the rest of the cache as seen in the photos I took while
in the treasure cavern .

Trust in the Gov.'t to hand out Doc.'s ?

Not this Hippie .

As for a lack of diligence on the part of public workers in New Mexico

it was still the 1880's there , all the way up to the turn of 2000

 

[UncleMatt]

So where are the stone cabins, or where they once stood? I notice in another thread you are pointing people to sites where you claim treasure vaults remain intact to be found. So hopefully pointing out the stone cabins you have been referring to shouldn't be a problem....

 

[sdcfia]

That's a good suggestion, but they only go back to 1959 for the Rincon site.

I've said this elsewhere on the site in other threads, but until you have lived a good number of years in New Mexico, you lack perspective on what can go down here, and does go down here with great regularity.

Several cases in point, several nights ago the HEAD of the Albuquerque Police Narcotics Unit SHOT one of his own undercover officers. 2 other officers are currently under murder charges for shooting to death a mentally imbalanced man in the foothills who was camping not a half a mile from my house. Down in El Paso County recently 2 officers got in an argument, and one of them shot and killed the other. I could go on with tales that would truly disgust you, but hopefully that illustrates the point well enough. Breaking Bad was filmed here for a reason. Graft and corruption are still present today, and were ten times worse back then. Think of good old Gus Raney over near Grants, who was a law officer, but still died while waiting for trial over killing a father and son. And that is just law enforcement, when you start talking about the civilians, its another level of skullduggery. So please don't be skeptical that an orphan with no real family wouldn't be missed or his disappearance not investigated. I am sure if law enforcement did know about it at the time, they were probably relieved no one expected them to do anything about it.

And with regard to Miss Perrone, she might have been scared she was next! She had seen the maps and had helped translate them, so I'm sure she wanted to keep a very low profile after she saw Jack's perforated clothing.

Yeah, I've been here 40 years. I could give you much more to fill your scrapbook, but who cares? New Mexico has always struggled under a curse, and it will likely continue. By the way, Raney hadn't been in law enforcement since the 30s when he was forced out of Grant County for killing a Mexican sheepherder during an argument over a hat. The father he killed (and his son) behind his house across the road from Bruce King's old ranch was a retired Treasury agent. They were interested in stories of gold in the lava flow. Gus was one very scary guy - he threatened to kill me and a pal one day, and we had no doubt he meant it.

"... when she saw Jack's perforated clothing." Do we know for sure Perrone (Harris) actually ever lived in T or C? The only mention I've ever seen connected to her was an alleged east coast obit in the Clarence book. No local T or C documents. Do we know for sure Reynolds actually existed or was in T or C, or do we just accept hearsay because we don't want to take the time to try to find out? Same goes for LaRue, Navarez, et al.

When we hear these stories, we need to ask why unnamed people who are allegedly familiar with great piles of hidden gold would possibly reveal valid information. When you check this stuff out and can't verify it, you might question it's validity and what truths are withheld, and why. The "why" should be obvious. The "what" is our goal. But that's just me - reality is more fun than fantasy, even though I admit fantasy sells much better.

I always pay attention to Roger, and typically side with his views, but I don't accept his hearsay at face value either, even if it came from his dad. No offense intended, just life the way it is. I haven't taken the time to research Harvey's demise - or Eleda's in CA - I'll take his word that info about them is slim. I do have a file on Harvey Jr, which is quite interesting, and supports Roger's claims. He has provided some damned good undocumented info over the years on this website and others - lots of it fits well and some not so well.

 

[UncleMatt]

The mindset of law enforcement back in those days is what I was illustrating with my comments about Gus, I am well aware of the details surrounding his death. But why would you want someone like that to be in law enforcement to begin with? Because back then they ALL were like that, with very few exceptions! They did whatever the hell they wanted to do, and their office was merely a way to expedite those agendas. And if you observe the headlines today, you still see exactly the same kind of behavior by police! It seems built into the mindset of people in NM that you can do whatever the hell you want, as long as you feel like you won't get caught. And often the players involved are so very stupid they can't even think THAT far ahead, they do stupid criminal things because they don't expect to be held accountable, or lack the intellect to understand they will be held accountable. I keep waiting for things to change in NM, for it to catch up to the rest of the country, and it never happens...

 

[sdcfia]

The mindset of law enforcement back in those days is what I was illustrating with my comments about Gus, I am well aware of the details surrounding his death. But why would you want someone like that to be in law enforcement to begin with? Because back then they ALL were like that, with very few exceptions! And if you observe the headlines today, you still see exactly the same kind of behavior by police! It seems built into the mindset of people in NM that you can do whatever the hell you want, as long as you feel like you won't get caught. And often the players involved are so very stupid they can't even think THAT far ahead, they do stupid criminal things because they don't expect to be held accountable, or lack the intellect to avoid doing so. I keep waiting for things to change in NM, for it to catch up to the rest of the country, and it never happens...

You can find this type of behavior everywhere. But you're right - in New Mexico, the public servants don't do much to hide what they're doing because they get away with it so often here. Law enforcement is ... uh ... well ... let's just say, "unusual". The rural business of meth cooking and distribution is not threatened, that's for certain. If you want to know how America operates, on all levels, just "follow the money". Works every time.

 

[treasminder2]

Quote : "It seems built into the mindset of people in NM that you can do whatever the hell you want, as long as you feel like you won't get caught. "

Sociopaths

simple term for a complex character disorder .

now a Story :::::::::::::::::::::


Relative to the above mentioned Disorder

Relative as well to just how stupid and gullible some people can be about
Treasure Stories .

~~~ Oro Grande 500lb Silver Bar find ~~~~~


Two locals of the Tula Rosa Basin ,
Bob and Don , worked odd jobs and subsisted
on impoverished income allowance .

Bob , being afflicted with MPD , Multiple personallity Disorder , was prescribed
Psych Medication .


One night , during a Drunk rampage , he was escorted
out to a friends car , for a ride home .

They traveled South toward El Paso Texas .

At Oro Grande , where Bob's Father had once had a mining Claim ,
Bob screamed for the driver to pull over and let him out of the car .

Bob raised so much hades , that the driver , thinking Bob had to relieve
himself , pulled over , miles from the small village of Oro Grande , and
opposite the Hills where mines were located about a mile off the highway .

Bob simply strode to the Barbed Wire fence that runs along the road for 100's of miles .

Bent and passed through the wires .
The driver yelling : " BOB ! come back , where you goin' "

Bob , deaf to anything but the invisible " Little Man " that sat on his shoulder ,
maintained his stride ,headed directly for the old mines .

As Bob faded into the dark of night out in the Desert , the driver returned to his car .
Driving off and leaving Bob to wander in the Desert alone , without water ,
sans food , Drunk as well as delusional .

Nice friend ,,, was he not ?

Bob wandered around out there , seeking his dad's old claim .

PATWEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeee ,,,,,,,

Down a 25 ft. vertical shaft , Bob found himself sitting with a Ball of
Rattlesnakes .

The old shaft had been covered over with corrugated Tin and dirt .

Bobs weight had caused it to cave in .


Two days later ,


Bob showed up atr a house that Don had a job helping remodel .

Bob's eyes are round as silver dollars ,, exasperated ,,, out of breath , agitated ,
and yelling : " I found it !!!! The Treasure of Oro Grande' ! "

He coerced Don into leaving his job ( Don Losing the Job as result ) and driving
back out to Oro Grande to the mines .

They searched the rest of the day until dark , then gave up .

They slept out there , and continued the search the entire next day .


Don turned his bleak tired over worked eyes to Bob ,,,

" Buddy , who we need is Harvey Snow , that Man's famous for finding Treasure , let's go see
him "

I am no less sure than ever , that Dad's diminished Id , was responsible for his constant
seeking of attention through media .

That more then anything , caused the bulk of the problems we experienced
with intrusive actions by every dreamer who read or heard of Dad's exploits .

Bob and Don , being a pair of such dreaming fools .


Sitting in the recliner , hearing a vehicle pull through the gate , and up the 100yd long drive
to the house , I cringed ,,, The little man on my shoulder this time spoke in reply to my question : " Now What ? "

" Tis the Loonies for sure me Lad " was all the little Shoulder squatter would spill .

Standing up and Glancing out the door , dang it ,,,, my head actually experienced a spell of vertigo
for a second or two .

Not happy to see these two Knick Knacks at any distance , I was certainly distraught that they
were here ,,,, showing up at my only safe site away from the Loonies that populate the area in abundance .

They rushed in , as Don and Bob told the story and asked for Dad's help out there ,,,
I kept rolling my eyes at Dad every time he looked my way ,,

as to say : " Tell them we have a Funeral to attend please ,,, anything , just get them GONE ! "

Nope , Pop's is enthralled with treasure stories , and this may be a true find , we should investigate it .

I walked outside , A ride in the wind can sometimes , if not cure , at least alleviate symptoms of the anxiety
that I become over whelmed with when around the Loonies .

Cranking up and riding off on the street bike , dread growing , I thought to just keep going
and return home to Calif .

Sure as hades is hot , Dad wants to go investigate the find, He relates that Bob has found a 500lb
silver bar in a shaft , replete with bags of old Spanish coins and gold nuggets .

I ask Bob , did you bring anything out to prove your find ?

Bob replied , NO, there were snakes , I had to get out quick , but I covered it up ,
no one will find it , it's still there for us to take .. "

Off we go , my hand itching to take out my pistol and put a stop to the Idiots psycho Babble .
I was trapped between the both of them , laser beam from my eyes burning into my Dads head for this
travesty he has me committed to .


On site we all spread out

Bob of course , walks over into a small Draw , and I think : " He said it was away from the hills
out in the flat "

This idiot ,,, MAAAANNNNnnnnnnnnnnnnn ,,,

I watch him for about 1/2 an hour ,,,,,,
he is sitting on a boulder at the edge of the wash ,,, staring into it .

I approach him ,,,,

" Bob ,,, are we here to find that shaft you fell in ? "

" Yep " ,,, was all he would reply .

again ,,, " Bob ,,, You are aware that the shaft is not in the bottom of that wash ,,, right ? "

again the reply from him : " Yep ? "

I look out to the ridge where I see Don and Dad staring down at us .

I think : " out in the flat , and I , the only one searching the flat "

I turn and jump in the wash in front of Bob , sternly and direct : " BOB , there is no shaft with a 500lb bar ,
you lied , get up , we're leaving "

Bob looked at my chest and no higher ,,, he grinned that demented grin , only the insane
can manage ,,,

and walked to the truck , got in , sat down and waited .


Dad and Don come down the ridge ,, Dad asked : " What's with Bob , is he sick ? "

In reply and with great anger " Yeah , like a loon is sick , and that's too obvious for you to need to ask me "


Returning home , I take dad aside , " Look , you knew he was on Psyche Meds , and didn't tell me ,,,,
You know he drinks and is child like ,,, WHAT WAS YOUR IDEA IN DRAGGING ME ALONG ? "


Thus it is in New Mexico ,,,,

Loonies with Treasure Stories , those at times get into print ,,, and become believed by other
loonies who waste their lives chasing the wind .

I am at this point in life ,,, a retired Hippie , sour at treasure seekers ,,, drug addicted lost minds ,,,
and T.V. Watching droning ,,, doped down , over eating people who populate this Country .

Illustrated above , a life event of mine , just one where contact with some of the people
who were bitten by the treasure bug , and became so delusional ,,, as to not only believe
every treasure story ever told ,,,
but to begin their own treasure story built on delusional lies .


Believe as you wish , own the lies you wish to pay for , understand as little as possible ,,
Become one of the many who invested emotional , psychological , and time in the Wil-O-Wisp legends .

I for one , have seen it all from Peter to Paul , with a few books of Luke and Mark
Thrown in ,,,,

It is best for a person to first complete a stable concrete reality .

for ,,,
if a person ventures off into the Treasure hunting Venue ,,, with a little less of
the pragmatic common sense required to function on a somewhat sane scale ,,,,

LOST will be that person , and better they seek themselves , then anything else .

 

[treasminder2]

Years later

Dick Cole fell into a routine of meeting his friends each morning at the local Mc Donalds
in Alamogordo ,,, for Coffee and lie telling .
One friend being Dr. Daniel Fry ( Rocket Scientist and Author of the Book " The White Sands Incident "

Dick being a close friend of My Dad's and myself , I would on occasion while visiting the
area , join him in his routine at Mick D's for coffee .

One Morning we are engaged in discussion on the subject of UFO's , which Dan and I both
have experience with .

Dad has been grave bound for over 3 years by this time, and Treasure Hunting had become
for me just as dead .

" Hey Guys ! "

and turning to look behind me where this loud obnoxious voice has just broken the
limit of permissible decibel level for an area of Jet and Rocket Motors ,,,

I question the validity of my eyesight , and do so with abhorrent dibelief .

It is none other that Psych Med Bob ,,, with another strange tale of discovery ,
he has come seeking his daily dose of acknowledgement .


Bob : " You guys won't believe this , I was just up at Victorio Peak ,,,, I found a burial mound ,,,,
I dug into it ,,,, I FOUND AN AZTEC DOLL ! "

The tendons in my arm snap out in attempt to slap this happy over doped idiot
into a State of Comatose .

I pull it back , stand and leave for my Truck .


Dan follows .

We watch Dick and Bob through the Window , Dick glances toward us ,

we both wave him out to us ,,, we do so , with intensity defined by electric shock emanating
from our fingers .

Dick exits while Bob trots like a child to the rest room .

As Dick exits the door way ,, I point and say : " There's no cure for that outside of belated Abortion "

I had to concede years ago , that I was indeed a magnet for Loonies , no other explanation was there
for my seemingly coincidental contacts with the Loons of the World .

In the 1970's

Operation Gold Finder was headed up by the owners of Expeditions unlimited , Sam and Norman Scott .

This was another attempt by Ova Noss to get access to Victorio Peak on the Base .

The story was picked up on the UPI wire and spread like Cheese Whiz on hot lips .

Over to the West by 700 miles , a Man who once roomed at a Boarding house in L.A. near the campus ,,,
read the headlines of the local paper .

At that boarding house , and at that time many decades before , resided for a short time , a Man
who introduced himself as Willie Daught .

He drank quite often , and just as often he blabbed about Treasure he supposedly found
in New Mexico ...


AS he came , he left ,,, and as no one knew him before , they knew nothing of him afterward .


Ring.

and Sam lifts the receiver ,,, Hello ?

" Hi , my name is Willie Daught , I found a Treasure in the Caballos back in the late 20's ,,, want to talk .

Enter the New Willie , even though the Caballos are miles for Victorio Peak

This new Willie seeks Fame and Fortune via this New Prospect .


Decades later , during another attempt at the Peak , this same man , comes again out of the
ashes to enjoin once again in his spotlight .


Believed is that this Man who carries the name Laurence Forman , is the original Willie Douthit/Daught .

Yet , Willie while at the Boarding house, to anyone's knowledge , ever produced the
least of Gold to prove his claim .

Larry Forman would believe when he reads of the Victorio Peak Story .

I once sat on the Rails of a Train Track , knowing that it was a risky action to take , but I was tired ,,,
and besides , no sound of a Train was approaching .

I knew well , that if I remained seated long enough ,,, a Train would come , and make a wreck of me .

and so it was when Doc Noss entered into the legend of Victorio Peak .

A Train wreck he caused , has reverberated ever after for decades now .

Deception is a Packaged Vehicle
The longer you ride within it
without opening it to peek inside for the truth .
the bigger the fool you become .

 

[treasminder2]

Quote Matt : " So where are the stone cabins, or where they once stood?

Look at a Topo Map of the turn off of I-25 for the town of Rincon

North of I-25 you will spot a small low mountain range with a Gravel Mine on the south side .

a road leads up to it .

off that road stands the old stone out rider cabin

whether it was originally a Mine House or a Ranchers bunk house for his outriders
remains unknown to me .

You will spot some other standing homes or buildings , and I believ the remains of some
adobe structures as well .

Near the Cabin is the old round up pen for cattle , dilapidated fence line for the Pen runs up to the
barbwire fence separating the road from the range .

The cabin can be easily accessed by a dirt road running off the Mine Road .

There is also the remnants of an Old Windmill base about the area .

Clue to me was , a man does not just walk off and leave a map stashed .

Obvious is that the map owner used that cabin as his shelter during his jaunts into the Caballos
seeking the contents defined by the Redeterreo and map found by Jack .

This is how the Treasure Hunter thinks ,

he runs the details of the events through , finds the detail that creates the question .

I simply thought : " Why was the Map left there , why did he not retrieve it , and why that
abandoned cabin , why not rent a motel room ?

Solution was to surmise that the Map owner had found his prize , stored the Map , began his recovery ,
and at some point , he met a bad fate before he could retrieve the map .

Which led to the thought

He must have run relay , bring what he could manage to carry out , and storing it
at the cabin site , where he could then easily retrieve it when he acquired the
necessary vehicle for transport to his final destination to unload his find in exchange
for money .

Looking the place over , realizing that it was a very remote site back in the day , I myself
would have chose it too , for my shelter while exploring , and a perfect place to keep secret
my endeavors and presence in the area .

Hint

in the search , while on site .

Look the lay of the land over
Place yourself in the persons shoes

minding that back then , anything breathing was a threat to your life .

Now , if you wre him , and wanted to secrete treasure , yet have it where you could access and retrieve
it Quickly , say in one night under the cover of Dark .

where would you sit it down ? "

You would stay out of the washes , for you cannot see raiders coming from
that position .
you would stay on the high ground ( usually between washes )

You would create the Vault on the side of a low hill or area where line of sight is blocked
by the hill , of onlookers out in the distance .

You would want a large permanent land mark , perhaps two that you could use to line up
and keeping the vault in that line .

Most would pace off a distance from a land mark , using boulders or other
non perishable objects .

In that , they would need more then one object to pace off from to create a cross line
where they would create the vault .

 

[treasminder2]

Alright

within the redacted documents that ONFP got from the Gov.t

One line refers to Victorio peak , and as well mentions another project of
recovery by the Gov.t

The Project name was : Project 6 , and after that , the name of the site is redacted ( blacked out )

I will name project 6 for you

" Ft Huachuca Az .

here is the story in this link below

The man who found it was Dyslexic , and had his two increments transverse

if he would have had them correct
he would have been RICH .

here is the link .

LIFE - Google Books

 

[H-2 CHARLIE]

Maybe the map owner was trailed there so it was hidden right before he was caught up to . meaning he was on his way but yet to the X spot .

 

[UncleMatt]

A repeating Winchester rifle was just found that had been leaning against a tree in the desert for 132 years. Back then a rifle like that would have been expensive and treasured. So someone either got kilt, or forgot where they leaned it. Probably the same applies to the map left behind under the window sill.

 

[treasminder2]

t is not the first abandoned rifle found in the area

Dick Cole ( mentioned above ) found a Savage 1899 years ago

also leaning against a tree .

The hunter shoots his Prize , the prize runs until the either dead or gets away
the Hunter pursues ,,,

in pursuit he forgets to keep looking back to get a lay of the land
to use on his return .

He follows either the blood trail , or finds his kill and hangs it to slit it's
throat to bleed it out .

as he attempts to return to his rifle , he cannot find it , sometimes it is because
he was not at a set and waiting , but rather , he was hiking a trail to his set when
opportunity came and he shot his prey .

A Map , secured , is not liable to such a loss .

I certainly opt for the Map owner being at a point to where he had
already found what he sought , and was indeed in the above outlined position
of relaying in a retrieval process .

 

[treasminder2]

and besides

Given the option of seeking Larry Forman's land acquisition for a site of treasure storage

or a visit to the cabin for such .

Weighing possibilities between the two , for success .,,,,,

More faith I would give in the Cabin
then the barren land of a possible imposter .

I'll direct you to something you may not have noticed in the Larry Forman Clerk Photo

Look as his puffy soft little hands .

as a day laborer , as a Ranch Hand , as an Oil Field worker , Willie certainly
ended up with hands much as mine are , for I as well have worked those same
occupations years and years ago

and at 60 years old

it still shows ,,

The hands become sculpted to the task by which they're applied .

and don't mention to me that maybe he soaked in Palmolive to keep
them soft and pliable ,

nor that he wore palytex gloves while he worked them in toil .

as i stated , the deductive reasoning inherent in my DNA , seeks the question not
apparent ,,,
then seeks the answer .
The obvious is always answered by it's own existence

it is the tiny details that connect the dots , if analysis is applied properly .

 

[Real de Tayopa Tropical Tramp]

Ji Roger, a simple cross bearing on any two objects would give you a precise spot for your cache.

P.S as a kitchen swamper he would soon have soft hands

 

[UncleMatt]

I doubt there is anything hidden at the cabin at Rincon, especially stashed gold. That sort of thing could easily be picked up on the way out of town, so why leave it behind? But we will see....

 

[treasminder2]

As I've always said
Believe what you will

as well as doubt what you will

I myself have doubts at times

I doubted the U.S. Gov't. was a corrupt resource gleaning operation .

Until the U.S. Gov.'t made it clear to me , through kidnap and Torture of me .

I as well doubt that Larry Forman ever saw a treasure , and I doubt
that searching his old land claims in the Los Angeles Forest will reap bars of gold .

I however do not Doubt that the Cabin was used by two Priest with a Map and Sextant
seeking Caches in New Mexico

I do not doubt that they were murdered after they found what they were looking for .

I do not doubt that the Convent in Mexico sent two more Priest seeking the first two .

but ,,,

as I said

we have doubts about everything

How can we trust

when our leaders betray our trust .

If we have no trust , because our pillars of society have proven to be
false , then how are we to trust that Pigs can Fly ?

 

[TexAu]

Magazine article from 1972

I found this on the web , but do not remember the link. I save as a picture file. I will attach the two files. Not sure it worked!