"would you go down an old mine, cave or drain pipe"

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Mojave

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Re: "would you go down an old mine, cave or drain pipe"

Every chance I get...... Haven't been lost or hurt yet...... And, if i did, I think that that would be the way to go...... Can't keep me out of em.... :)
 

Gribnitz

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Re: "would you go down an old mine, cave or drain pipe"

Not anymore, but I used to think myself invicible when I was younger. Friend had a cave on his farm, but the entrance was a hole straight down in the earth. We could barely see the floor with a flashlight, so we got a rope and my two friends "volunteered" to lower me down. I had the flashlight and as I got lower into the pit, I could see all those sharp stalagtite things sticking up from the floor. Well, things got worse from there. The cold water dripping from up top of the hole was landing on my hands and my fingers started to freeze. Pretty soon, I could barely hold on anymore and started begging my buddies to pull me up because I couldn't grip the rope. I wedged myself in between a couple rocks and tied the rope around my waist and those two little guys managed to haul my ass out ! Thought I was going to be a relic for some archeologist to find in a few hundred years impaled on spikes at the bottom of the pit ! Needless to say, we never atempted that again. Youth can make you do stupid things.
 

MesaBuddy

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Re: "would you go down an old mine, cave or drain pipe"

In a "Heartbeat"

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CWnut

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Re: "would you go down an old mine, cave or drain pipe"

Yes, but only if research led me there. Like a good detective, follow the leads
 

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tinpan

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Re: "would you go down an old mine, cave or drain pipe"

hi all,Late afternoon news " All found safe and well".Thats good news :)


tinpan
 

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Re: "would you go down an old mine, cave or drain pipe"

tinpan said:
hi all,Late afternoon news " All found safe and well".Thats good news :)


tinpan

Thanks Tinpan.

Great News.

Jeff
 

Pulltab Parson

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Re: "would you go down an old mine, cave or drain pipe"

PTL!!!
 

Sandman

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Re: "would you go down an old mine, cave or drain pipe"

Not anymore, but I used to think myself invicible when I was younger. Friend had a cave on his farm, but the entrance was a hole straight down in the earth. We could barely see the floor with a flashlight, so we got a rope and my two friends "volunteered" to lower me down. I had the flashlight and as I got lower into the pit, I could see all those sharp stalagtite things sticking up from the floor. Well, things got worse from there. The cold water dripping from up top of the hole was landing on my hands and my fingers started to freeze. Pretty soon, I could barely hold on anymore and started begging my buddies to pull me up because I couldn't grip the rope. I wedged myself in between a couple rocks and tied the rope around my waist and those two little guys managed to haul my ass out ! Thought I was going to be a relic for some archeologist to find in a few hundred years impaled on spikes at the bottom of the pit ! Needless to say, we never atempted that again. Youth can make you do stupid things.

Same here for being invincible when younger. Now that I am much older and wiser I only do stupid things.

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Pulltab Parson

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Re: "would you go down an old mine, cave or drain pipe"

LOL hey Sandman, that reminds me of me hehehehe ;D
 

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Re: "would you go down an old mine, cave or drain pipe"

Did anyone notice the article said they were feared lost or something had happened and they couldn't find their way out . ??? ???
 

Charlie P. (NY)

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Re: "would you go down an old mine, cave or drain pipe"

Old mine maybe. Cave definately. Drain pipe probably not.
 

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Re: "would you go down an old mine, cave or drain pipe"

I AM TO FAT FOR A DRAIN PIPE THE OTHER TWO I SHOULD FIT INTO ;D
 

Monty

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Re: "would you go down an old mine, cave or drain pipe"

No, I don't have the arm and leg stength to pull myself out like I did when I was a youngster. The only way I would do it now is if I had the necessary back up and equipment to do it safely. The area I live in was an ancient inland sea eons ago and there is a lot of limestone bluffs and caves full of fossils. A great many artifacts of earlier civilization has been found and in the late 1800s a lot of outlaws hid out in the caves and overhangs. We use to go exploring them when I was a teenager and luckily none of us got hurt, a miracle in itself. Monty
 

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Re: "would you go down an old mine, cave or drain pipe"

I love caves. There aren't many around me, but I would go into any cave... as long as I had proper gear. I've been in quite a few, and loved them all. Had a few scary moments, but now, being older and much wiser, I avoid those with proper preparation. Proper gear is a must, and never without notifying someone of EXACTLY where I was going.
steve
 

Gypsy Heart

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Re: "would you go down an old mine, cave or drain pipe"

Tinny, Did the news state what had happened? Were they lost,fell in a hole, what?

I dont like tight spaces...so going into a drainpipe might be out, but a cave or well I wouldnt have a problem with. In my youth I would have explored anything with out a care, but now I would definitely be better prepared ,proper gear,etc.
 

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Re: "would you go down an old mine, cave or drain pipe"

No. I live in Gold Country and we know that fooling around mines and caves can and have been deadly. People have been known to get lost, die from poisonous gas, cave in or even the entrance can be undermined. You just never know.
We always say that the reason the original miners left was because nothing was left. So why chance it?
 

slowreaper

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Re: "would you go down an old mine, cave or drain pipe"

This is accually a hard one, I still do caves and mines and at the same time tell others not to. Way to many ways to get hurt bad. If you die you die and there is a lot of ways to do that too.

In my mind mines are the worse, I have personally had old wooden latters break, fall off the wall and end 30-40 feet above the next level, cave ins, snakes, wild pigs, pits, lots of water, old sweaty dynamite, and chemicals. On the good side I have found lots of stuff in them, both left behind and minerals, but if hunting gold, the tailings are a much better place to look.

Brad
 

Ant

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Re: "would you go down an old mine, cave or drain pipe"

One more time.

For you own safety stay the heck out of these places. Anybody that’s been around this kind of industry will tell you that you’re a fool if you fool around mines and tunnels or any confined spaces for that matter. Please, just yahoo or google Mine Safety and you'll find gobs of information. Below is quoted from the Utah BLM link.
http://dogm.nr.state.ut.us/amr/AMBROCHR.HTM

This quote from the BLM:
Abandon Mines Are Unstable:
Mine shafts are vertical mine openings. They represent the number one cause of death and injury in abandoned mines. Because no light enters a mine shaft, the depth is difficult to assess. The shaft collar may be loose and unconsolidated. This material can break away, causing individuals to fall into the shaft. Darkness, loose debris, false floors, rotten timbers, and water can hide vertical openings.
Explosives become highly unstable with time and when exposed to the elements. Old dynamite often contains nitroglycerine, which can explode with the slightest disturbance. Perhaps the most dangerous explosives are blasting caps. Rodents can scatter blasting caps on the mine floor. If stepped on, they will explode. A blasting cap resembles a firecracker with wires
Highwalls are vertical cliffs. They are common features of open pit mines and quarries which can be unstable and prone to collapse. Do not stand near or under highwalls nor attempt to climb them

Unpredictable:
Mines are not caves. Caves are formed naturally over thousands or even millions of years. Mines are man-made by blasting, which fractures and weakens the surrounding rocks. Vibrations from walking or even speaking can cause an abandoned mine to cave in.

Abandoned mines are not ventilated. Consequently, pockets of deadly air and gases can be present. Even experienced cavers can die exploring mines, due to lack of oxygen.

Structures are dilapidated. Support timbers, headframes, ladders, pump jacks, tanks, and other related structures may seem safe and solid; but rotted wood will easily crumble under a person's weight. Don't be fooled by appearances. Do not climb on, around, or under structures.

Animals live in abandoned mines. Rattlesnakes, bats, bears, or mountain lions can den or escape the heat in the dark recesses of a mine. Underground mines can be critical habitat for such species. You should not disturb them.

Unsafe:
Bad Air is oxygen-deficient or toxic air that can build up in abandoned mines, causing dizziness or even unconsciousness. Bad air is odorless and tasteless. Carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide often collect in low areas or along the floor in horizontal workings.

The motion of walking can cause bad air to mix with good air.
Radioactivity is the result of the natural decay process of radioactive minerals (uranium, vanadium, etc.). The effects of radiation exposure are cumulative through a lifetime. Excessive exposure can be harmful or eventually fatal. Many abandoned uranium mines in southern Utah are potential sources of radiation.

Hazardous Waste such as bags or drums of chemicals used in mining, milling or drilling operations can pose a threat when touched or smelled by an uninformed person. Illegal dumping of industrial hazardous waste can also occur.
Water Hazards occur in flooded abandoned mines. Shallow water can conceal drop-offs (winzes), sharp objects, and other hazards. You can drown in a water-filled shaft.

We Need Your Help:
Abandoned mines are hazardous and should be left alone. For your own safety and the safety of others, do not try to enter abandoned mines. Vandalism of closures endangers innocent people and wastes tax dollars.
To learn more about the dangers of abandoned mines, call the BLM or the State of Utah for a copy of a public safety video entitled "STAY OUT and STAY ALIVE: Abandoned Mine Safety".
 

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