Yet Another Bigscoop Tidbit ( And A Good One!)

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Produce something detailing how Ward made study of the alleged resources in Grandpa Risque's fabulous library.
Produce a documented catalog of the alleged reference materials that were in that same fabulous library.
Produce something that confirms that Ward even had the skills to pen such a tale.

At best, all you can provide are just family and local speculations. Give us something, anything that you can directly tie to your claims and the narration beyond Ward, which is really all you have or have ever had, but this is already explained in the narration, isn't it? If you think he was more then just the agent then actually try to connect him to the narration and that unfounded claim in some way...
Bigscoop, you know of all the information that I have produced concerning that Risqué family connection to the Beale tale, including journals and other works that were utilized to "fatten" the story, and have named others that were behind the creation, printing, advertising, and sale of the dime novel job pamphlet.
I have also produced quotes of those who were contemporaries of Ward as well as a Library of Congress researcher who stated that it was a work of fiction, and the comments of professional codebreakers, some contacted by the Hart brothers, that hold the same opinion.
I even produced information that Major James Beverly Risqué was in the Florida Campaign with Andrew Jackson which forced the Adams-Onis Treaty you are so fond of in attempts to connect it to the Beale story. Risqué received a "patriot" payment from that Treaty, yet you still ignore this family connection while promoting this Jean Lafitte theory and using Laflin's forged memoirs as evidence.
You are using a fictional forged memoir to produce evidence a dime novel job pamphlet of fiction is true, including location, people, and events that have nothing to do with the presented Beale story, while ignoring those relations that were actually involved with the Beale Papers.
 

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Bigscoop, you know of all the information that I have produced concerning that Risqué family connection to the Beale tale, including journals and other works that were utilized to "fatten" the story, and have named others that were behind the creation, printing, advertising, and sale of the dime novel job pamphlet.
I have also produced quotes of those who were contemporaries of Ward as well as a Library of Congress researcher who stated that it was a work of fiction, and the comments of professional codebreakers, some contacted by the Hart brothers, that hold the same opinion.
I even produced information that Major James Beverly Risqué was in the Florida Campaign with Andrew Jackson which forced the Adams-Onis Treaty you are so fond of in attempts to connect it to the Beale story. Risqué received a "patriot" payment from that Treaty, yet you still ignore this family connection while promoting this Jean Lafitte theory and using Laflin's forged memoirs as evidence.
You are using a fictional forged memoir to produce evidence a dime novel job pamphlet of fiction is true, including location, people, and events that have nothing to do with the presented Beale story, while ignoring those relations that were actually involved with the Beale Papers.

Let me explain something to you that while it isn't directly related to this mystery it is absolutely directly related to all of those "professional opinions" you reference. After my heart attack I suffered from a reoccurring issue that kept landing me back in the hospital,a sudden weakness and drop in blood pressure that was nearly causing me to pass out, for a year "all of the specialist" continued to run test after test trying to discover what was happening "with my heart." Only recently, and by a general practitioner "acting on her own curiosity and research", did she discover that it had absolutely nothing to do with my heart. So you see my point here, yes? And this isn't the only arena where this sort of thing tends to happen a lot. :icon_thumright:

And I'm sure that I don't have to remind you that history is full of professional opinions that were wrong. This is why I always like to review all the sources I can for myself so I can then draw my own conclusions, be them the same or different. As for the memoirs, I think you'll find that very little time has actually been dedicated to the researching of the details within, "that task alone requiring an enormous amount of time and resources."
 

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ECS, have we not, on numerous occasion, already concluded and accepted our differences of opinions on all of this? So why keep pursuing the same old debate that is never going to change? Seems absolutely pointless and a complete waste of breath and space to me.
Yet you still continue to convince readers on these Beale threads that John Laflin's forged Jean Lafitte's memoirs are a valid source of evidence because some of the content contains possible events that are true. Hearsay at best, but most likely "padded" fiction to lure the unwary into a purchase.
As for providing the true story behind the Beale dime novel story, even if half of Laflin's forged memoirs is based on real evnents, there is NO "connexion" to the 1885 Beale Papers.
 

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Yet you still continue to convince readers on these Beale threads that John Laflin's forged Jean Lafitte's memoirs are a valid source of evidence because some of the content contains possible events that are true. Hearsay at best, but most likely "padded" fiction to lure the unwary into a purchase.
As for providing the true story behind the Beale dime novel story, even if half of Laflin's forged memoirs is based on real evnents, there is NO "connexion" to the 1885 Beale Papers.

There you go, once again offering your same old educated opinion that has now advanced/evolved to, "half of the memoirs possibly being true/accurate". But at least some progress is obviously being made. :icon_thumright::laughing7:
 

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